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Yeah for a filming trying desperately to tie up loose ends, it definitely gave us a few more to pull at
I read it as him doing a bit about how both of them are cursed to never be able to touch the one they love again (don't think he says everyone, but due to the virus multiplying through asymptomatic carriers until it finds Madeleine, that is in fact the case, if they want to save her) and they are stuck on this island forever fighting each other whithout being able to ever actually gaining the thing they are fighting over. Basically, he perceives himself to be in some kind of grand Greek or Shakespearean tragedy. Only he doesn't realise his opponent isn't into tragedies and just shoots him in the head.
He is remarkably unfazed by the broken arm...
Safin doesn't care about Mathilde. He cares only about her mother because he loves her and he believes her life is his property.
Anyway I don't really care if the film doesn't explain every tiny detail. The big picture is perfectly clear and filling those little details is pretty easy.
You keep saying it was muddled, but it was clear to me both viewings what was going on. Was it Safin’s dialogue you had trouble understanding? As for Matilde, Safin doesn’t care about Matilde. He loves Madeleine, not her spawn with Bond. The point is the vial he breaks would kill both of them.
He doesn't smash the vial on his head to me... Bond doesn't even move his head while Safin does that and the sound effect is closer to the sound of spraying something. That part is not perfectly clear tho and I think there are a couple of continuity errors with Bond's scar on his face too. Maybe you are right anyway. I'll pay super attention at that sequence tonight.
Lyutsifer = Lucifer = Devil
Safin = Seraph - A seraph (/ˈsɛrəf/, "the burning one"; plural seraphim /ˈsɛrəfɪm/)[nb 1] is a type of celestial or heavenly being originating in Ancient Judaism. The term plays a role in subsequent Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. - Wiki
Intentional imo
I took it more like Lucifer Satan...
I really need to watch the film again to see who's speaking to Primo during their raid on the lab. I could have sworn it was Safin but that's not possible since it seems like Primo only hears from him after Blofeld's death later on.
Oh wow this is genius. I feel so dumb for not realizing that Safin doomed himself also, not just Bond. Makes sense since he said they are both poisoned by heartbreak. Yeah Safin clearly smashed it across Bond's head and also cut his hand in the process so it got into his bloodstream, even though just touching it on the skin would suffice.
Safin is truly a delusional, pathetic little man and Rami sold that so well. He actually thought he had a chance with Madeline. Bond doesn't give a toss about him whatsoever and just coldly and unceremoniously executes him. His death suited him so well.
And yeah he really didn't seem to care about having his arm broken.
That's the part I didn't really buy: I don't particularly believe that Safin cares for her all that much. They only share two scenes together and in one of them he's barely paying her any attention and is more interested in her daughter and has Madeline taken away (and then later lets Mathilde run off because he doesn't care if she lives or dies). That he's in love with her... I get that he says it but I'm not shown any reason to believe it.
Which made that final scene in the pool of water where he tries to paint it that they're both doomed just not ring true for me. I didn't buy that he wouldn't just happily leave the island at any time if he could even if he had the virus on him. He had the red vial made after all, he must have been willing to use it at some point.
Bond puts Madeline's life above his, that's perfectly understandable. But Safin seems to be claiming that he does the same... nah, no way. Anyone who does think that way doesn't have a poison vial that kills the person they love on them at all times.
"Now we are both poisoned with heartbreak. Two heroes in a tragedy of our own making. Anyone we touch, we are their curse."
Thematically, it's consistent with the presentation of Silva & Waltz-Blofeld in the previous films as the distorted reflection of Craig-Bond himself - at least I think that's what they were going for ...
If only the film had explored that ... but Safin's "love" for Madeleine seems to come from nowhere. Madeleine hadn't even recognized him as 'the masked man' when treating him as his psychotherapist.
I mean, whaaa? Did I miss something here?
Eyeball hacked by Q was taken from Blofeld by Nomi during her (unseen) visit in Belmarsh prison.
M talks about this with Bond in London before he is reinstated as 00.