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The 2021 release is breathtakingly elegant in almost every technical department, but it just isn’t very exciting or suspenseful.
The Gom Jabbar scene is a pretty good case in point. The 1984 scene has a visceral impact - we genuinely fear for Paul’s hand. The 2021 scene is remote, bloodless. Artfully directed but ultimately limp in its emotional impact. There’s a YouTube video that runs the scene side by side.
Similar differences can be observed throughout both entries. Lynch’s movie has a handful of pretty significant flaws, but it could never be accused of being dull. Alas, I’m not sure DV’s vision escapes such criticism.
Lynch's version was imperfect, but never boring. Why do I keep coming back to it? OH..... ;)
This is an interesting counterpoint and certainly fits with the notion of how the Bene Gesserit operate. Cheers
I find it endlessly rewatchable.
Far prefer the Toto soundtrack too.
And I had the chance to go see NTTD again... and went with Dune instead.
How depressing that choice was, as a Bond fan. But I'm sure I will see NTTD again soon. And rejoice for the first hour, and be depressed by the next two.
But Dune was great! :)
I completely agree. The 2021 film felt like something I've seen before (and I don't mean because I've seen the 1984 one), especially the artistic direction felt unoriginal. Lynch's Dune just feels more inventive to me, and I love the weirdness and surrealism he brings.
A major disappointment for me in the new film was the bending of space time for travel, which I found to be much more engaging in Lynch's film, if anything because it was so weird and out of left field that I was taken in. DV's version of this concept just amounted to a portal. It gets the job done, but isn't original.
Edit: also the Lynch version wins for me on score and cast/performances
Am dismayed to hear that Univex, as you come across as one of the most passionate Bond fans!
I really advise you to try and see NTTD again. I, like you, felt a lot underwhelmed on first seeing it, but having watched it three times now, I do think it improves! Not the masterpiece its being made out by some, but very watchable now! Hope to Dune myself this week, though am heading for a Covid test this afternoon, which might put the brakes on things!!
Thanks, @Mathis1. And I am, I really am that passionate about Bond. I'm planning on seeing it next week, as my local cinema had lighting and focus issues on my first viewing and they have corrected it since. I hope I enjoy it more on my second viewing :)
Good for you mate! Cant wait to read your thoughts on it!
And we have another part coming. (We think.)
* I plan to rewatch it and see if my opinion changes.
I wanted to love it too, but I was underwhelmed. It is beautiful, atmospheric and the score is nice, but where are the interesting characters I am supposed to like or connect with? I find it almost bizarre they have cast so many great actors to play so empty, superficial roles. Trying to make the death of a character we have hardly seen into a dramatic emotional moment didn't exactly work for me, sorry...
https://deadline.com/2021/10/dune-sequel-greenlit-by-legendary-warner-bros-theatrical-release-1234862383/
I never saw the 1984. But I have seen the Syfy mini series that was released in 2001 along with the sequel. And it's the exact same faithful story. But I am so happy that it's doing well box office wise. It might give LF the permission to continue making SW films that are a bit more mature and grown up in tone. And not just cater to fans who want to see OT/CW on repeat.
It would be nice if we not only get a 2nd half of the book. But also Dune Messiah and Children of Dune and round out the entire Attreides saga.
My initial reaction was to rank it 10th (9th if Godfather I & II are viewed as "one" film which they are on my list) of all time. I adjusted that to just shy of my top 25 only because I think this film will be in a similar situation for me where I consider both parts one entity, and it doesn't feel right calling this a top 10 film of all time until I know how the second half is.
Off topic, but interesting that you keep an all-time-best-movies list. What are your other choices?
This is my in-progress ranking of every film I have ever given 5 stars (aka 10/10) to. I've gotten up to about #200 and am going one-by-one down the list (it's pretty simple, if I think that, say, film #207 is better than #206, I'll re-rank it until it hits a film I don't think it deserves to be above). So I'd say at this point that at least my top 30 are solidified and won't have any surprise entrances from anything that currently sits lower in the list.
For what it's worth, the top 10 currently are:
#1: Lawrence of Arabia
#2: Blade Runner 2049
#3: The Godfather
#4: The Godfather Part II
#5: Chinatown
#6: 2001: a space odyssey
#7: Jackie Brown
#8: The Bridge on the River Kwai
#9: It's a Wonderful Life
#10: The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
#11 (#10 if you condense #3 and #4 into one entry): The Long Goodbye
I have a Letterboxd account under the same username where I have rated everything I have ever watched (well, to my memory, each month I probably find about a dozen more movies that I've seen but hadn't remembered prior to that).
A lot of classics here but I love seeing both Jackie Brown and The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford on your list especially!
Interesting list. Surprised to see Blade Runner 2049 so high. Out of curosity, where is NTTD in your ranking?
17th, or 16th if you apply the same rationale about The Godfather films. That does feel like something of a ceiling for it, though, those 15/16 films above it more or less only shift among one another.
A man of good taste, you are. Good to see your n10 in a list. A gorgeous film. Also, numbers 6 and 9. And your n1 is my n1.
And Villeneuve stated again that he envisioned Paul's journey as a three-parter. After Dune: Part Two he wants to adapt Herbert second Dune book, Dune Messiah, that is set twelve years later the first one.
That is interesting. For me, what Dune was missing in order to be a truly great film was more depth to the characters. As it stands it felt a little cold and superficial.