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2. The memebers were not notified abot the change in advance. Ok, I think we can handle that.
3. Even now we do not get a proper explanation why this change was needed and why it was needed so suddenly. Now, that is a problem. At least for me. I have been a member here for only about 4 years and even I feel like I deserve a proper explanation about this situation. (And there are a lot of members who have been here for a lot longer time than me).
Well, as good as this new "community" looks, the old forums were not only a discussion forum but also an archive of projects and interesting debates. We had a "find a thread thread" and a "greatest posts archive" there for a reason: Many of us liked to go back to some of the old stuff we created in many years and 1,000,000+ posts.
So right now I'd really like to know the answer to two questions:
1) Why wasn't it possible to inform the members that such a radical change would happen all of a sudden?
2) Will it be possible to access some of the old stuff? (The "MI6 Forums Archive" link which was working a few hours ago now redirects to CB.n. Why is that?)
Archive" link which was working a few hours ago now redirects to CB.n. Why is
that?)
I know the answer to question 2 is no. There was a set amount of time to get threads over to the new forum before the site went down and now it's gone, it's gone. The old threads are sadly lost forever. So now for some reason it links to CB.N
And w7, you could have always chosen w7. as your username. ;-)
I've been on only a few forums in my life. Some of those have overhauled. ALL of them were able to leave the old forum as an archive. One left PMs available for one month so we could save them.
That archive must be accessible again. At least for a week or two. Otherwise there is no point in posting in this new forum. We can't build a community knowing it's worthless to the leaders and that at any time it could be burned to the ground.
Seriously.... In the past YEAR or TWO, the admins could not have said: when the update happens, this forum will be gone so save as you go. ?>?? Really?
The archive isn't available right now, there's no reason to believe it won't ever again unless there's an official notice. And if it isn't, well it's extremely sad but I wouldn't simply assume the administrators are careless. I'm certain they do care. Building a new community is quite exciting as well.
The upgrade promised for so long made no mention of a new community. I can honestly see how James might have been sick of some of us and wanted to start fresh, with a new format and new people. But why not just say so.
I like the guy and I like the fact that there was this place to go to discuss Bond. I honestly thought that the OLD community was somewhat important to the main site and to success of the Best Bond Site on the Net.
It's to wipe the slate clean and start out with a fresh batch. You, me, Tux, Kyvan, Moore, and every other long-term member from the previous forum are now considered expendable.
As the owner said so himself: http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/562#Comment_562
Your complaints are not welcome. Use the new site. Love the new site. Or hit the road.
Heartwarming, huh?
Look, I woke up this morning in the same boat as everyone else: To find the forum I've posted on since 2005 had vanished. Honestly, I had some inkling that there were going to be a few changes, but I had no idea of just how dramatic they were going to be.
What I will say is that I'm 100% positive that this wasn't done to discourage members from being a part of this new community or to imply they were expendable. Sometimes there are other factors at play that we just don't know about. I think people should stop seeing the changes as a personal attack and see them for what they are.
Personally, I'd have loved to have had a bit more forewarning and perhaps some Beta testing, but that isn't always possible.
I'm feeling it's hard to summon up the old enthusiasm.
So, yea, I'm disappointed, I am a bit hurt (lack of communication tends to give one the feeling of being ignored or not being appreciated), and I'm a bit lost in the new format.
BUT, James gave us a great home for many years. He's carried a huge burden with the help of few people behind the scenes and a few more as moderators through the years. I'm not going to stop commenting on what would be nice to add to this new forum, and I'm not going to stop asking for the archives... But I am going to stop doing both with a sense of anger. It won't change what James is doing and it only pisses me off more and inflames the threads.
Brandon, I know what you are talking about completely. Same with Tux and FS and the rest. Let's keep the communication going and hopefully we can help to get things in order. We've got nothing to lose in being productive rather than negative.
There is no point in moving to another forum. There is no point in disbanding either. I really like the people here. I come to the community for the group. Sure a few are personal friends but it's the group atmosphere that keeps me coming back.
Let's just see what happens before we make sweeping statements about the forum and its owners. I just want to right my wrong... I could have been more productive in my comments about the archive. I'm sorry I was not. I will be less emotional in any further requests I make for the archives to be made available to us.
Please head over there