No Time to Die on Blu-ray

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  • SatoriousSatorious Brushing up on a little Danish
    edited December 2021 Posts: 234
    I have to say that the extras have been getting more and more disappointing since Casino Royale. This doesn't even have the trailers or a commentary track.
    So for the UK fans who have the DVD/BR, how the film open ? With the Universal gunbarell sequence, or do they used the US version of the gunbarell ?
    It has the Universal (non-US) opening.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    I’m in Canada and we got the universal logo in the cinemas, but not on the bluray; would have liked it there tbh. Maybe I should import one from the UK!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    BMB007 wrote: »
    After spending the last few days with the 4k, WOW they did an amazing job with the transfer. It looks absolutely stunning. Sandgren and his team's cinematography/coloring pops like few other 4ks I have.

    Yeah it's really something, the quality is so fantastic here. It's the only Bond title I own on 4K, I wasn't impressed with the other set where it matters (though SF did look brilliant), so I'm glad they managed to deliver here.
  • edited December 2021 Posts: 1
    So for the UK fans who have the DVD/BR, how the film open ? With the Universal gunbarell sequence, or do they used the US version of the gunbarell ?
    Incidentally the AppleTV version here in the UK is the US (non-Universal) opening. I disliked the Universal opening when I saw it in the cinema but that view seems to be a minority one.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    I don't like the Universal opening either.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited December 2021 Posts: 18,338
    I don't like the Universal opening either.

    Is it because the dots go the wrong way at the beginning?
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I don't like the Universal opening either.

    Ia it because the dots go the wrong way at the beginning?

    Yes, and it just looks weird to me.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited December 2021 Posts: 18,338
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I don't like the Universal opening either.

    Ia it because the dots go the wrong way at the beginning?

    Yes, and it just looks weird to me.

    It is something quite different. I don't mind it but the hallmark of the whole Craig Bond era has been experimentation with the gunbarrel sequence. I think Spectre was the closest we came to a traditional gunbarrel sequence.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited December 2021 Posts: 735
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    I don't like the Universal opening either.

    Ia it because the dots go the wrong way at the beginning?

    Yes, and it just looks weird to me.

    It is something quite different. I don't mind it but the hallmark of the whole Craig Bond era has been experimentation with the gunbarrel sequence. I think Spectre was the closest we came to a traditional gunbarrel sequence.
    Aesthetic choice or thematic comment? What do you guys make of the "no blood" aspect of the gun barrel sequence in NTTD? I tend to favor the former .... given how it fades into the overhead shot of the winter forest in Norway. As opposed to the latter and some kind of foreshadowing of Bond's death.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    I'm definitely in the "latter" camp.
  • Hi all.
    I have the uk version on blu-ray and watched MTTD I the scene where Paloma says “someone likes the spotlight” (avoiding spoilers here) is missing!!!!

    Did they remove it or cut it from the uk blu ray version? Can someone please check for me next time they watch it??? It’s sending me west (was I dreaming the scene) hahahaha.

    Happy holidays!!
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    moonraker5 wrote: »
    Hi all.
    I have the uk version on blu-ray and watched MTTD I the scene where Paloma says “someone likes the spotlight” (avoiding spoilers here) is missing!!!!

    Did they remove it or cut it from the uk blu ray version? Can someone please check for me next time they watch it??? It’s sending me west (was I dreaming the scene) hahahaha.

    Happy holidays!!

    I always thought she said “you’re popular tonight” when the spotlights come down on Bond during the cuba party.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Mallory wrote: »
    moonraker5 wrote: »
    Hi all.
    I have the uk version on blu-ray and watched MTTD I the scene where Paloma says “someone likes the spotlight” (avoiding spoilers here) is missing!!!!

    Did they remove it or cut it from the uk blu ray version? Can someone please check for me next time they watch it??? It’s sending me west (was I dreaming the scene) hahahaha.

    Happy holidays!!

    I always thought she said “you’re popular tonight” when the spotlights come down on Bond during the cuba party.

    It is that, but she also says something before that that I can’t quite make out.
  • Thanks for your replies 👍
    Just watched it again and I must have been wrong……

    I think I was passing out in the cinema 😂😂
  • Posts: 1,314
    Just watched the dvd. What a great film. Until it’s not.

    When Safin says to bond “I have something of yours [Mathilde] and you have something of mine[?] “ to what is he referring?
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    I’ve wondered that too… I wonder if it’s possible he’s referring to them taking over the Heracles “factory”, or possibly Valdo.
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    I’ve wondered that too… I wonder if it’s possible he’s referring to them taking over the Heracles “factory”, or possibly Valdo.

    I feel this film could be improved by two or three lines of expository dialogue.

    1. To further explain safins desire to have Madeleine
    2. To further explain what safins motivation is
    3. To understand where the ships are coming from to collect Heracles and why they can’t intercept of destro the ships rather than blow the island and bond to pieces
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    Matt007 wrote: »
    I’ve wondered that too… I wonder if it’s possible he’s referring to them taking over the Heracles “factory”, or possibly Valdo.

    I feel this film could be improved by two or three lines of expository dialogue.

    1. To further explain safins desire to have Madeleine
    2. To further explain what safins motivation is
    3. To understand where the ships are coming from to collect Heracles and why they can’t intercept of destro the ships rather than blow the island and bond to pieces

    1. Because he's obsessed with her. The scene in the psychiatry office, how much he focuses on her eyes. Or even simply just when he flat out says he is "in love" with her. That's it. He wants to control her, to posses her.

    2. Revenge on Spectre/having Madeleine

    3. Because Safin doesn't actually care about Heracles beyond a means to an end, he's just selling it to terrorists or other folk. If they blew up the ships, well then more ships would come and buy it. You have to destroy Heracles itself.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited December 2021 Posts: 735
    Matt007 wrote: »
    I’ve wondered that too… I wonder if it’s possible he’s referring to them taking over the Heracles “factory”, or possibly Valdo.

    I feel this film could be improved by two or three lines of expository dialogue.

    1. To further explain safins desire to have Madeleine
    2. To further explain what safins motivation is
    3. To understand where the ships are coming from to collect Heracles and why they can’t intercept of destro the ships rather than blow the island and bond to pieces
    The best Bond films should test a viewer's credulity not comprehension. That such questions keep coming up is tantamount to a major flaw with NTTD.

    1. It is never explained, it is just there, whatever contortions we might make as fans to try and understand it. Instead, the inspiration for Safin's character probably derives through any number of degrees of separation from Gaston Leroux's The Phantom of the Opera: the mask-wearing disfigured villain obsessed with the heroine whom he later kidnaps. It has become generic villainy and something we grasp subconsciously having absorbed it through so many previous movies and works of fiction. Safin even has the mask that reveals the bottom portion of his face that reminds me, at least, of the mask worn by the Phantom in Brian De Palma's retelling of the story, The Phantom of the Paradise.

    2. After destroying SPECTRE there is no motivation explained beyond Safin wanting, "to make the world a little tidier" after having said something incomprehensible about "people" supposedly wanting the "oblivion" that a "god" like him is born to deliver. What? Huh? Come again? That's it? Are you sure? Nothing about destroying the world and repopulating it with beautiful people? Perhaps beginning civilization again under the sea? How about starting World War Three, that's always a good one? Nope.

    3. Not explained, they're just on their way to pick-up the first consignment of Heracles, clearly no more than a plot device to necessitate the urgency of calling in the missile strike on Poison Island in order to bring about the preordained death of Craig Bond.
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    I watched LTK the other day, and it struck me how well drawn the villain is. He's nasty and ruthless, yet witty and charming, and you really feel like you knew him after the film's over. You don't get that with Safin, or Blofeld. It's like they haven't taken the time to put any flesh on the bones.
    Silva was done much better, wasn't he? He's the best villain of the Craig era I reckon.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Are you kidding? Sanchez is every 80s cliched drug lord rolled into one. If there's a worse villain, it's definitely Dominic Greene for being a complete nothing character. It's even more criminal given how utterly wasted Mathieu Amalric's talents are.

    I do concur about Silva. I instantly knew he was Craig's most compelling villain, and has remained so two films later.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited December 2021 Posts: 735
    I watched LTK the other day, and it struck me how well drawn the villain is. He's nasty and ruthless, yet witty and charming, and you really feel like you knew him after the film's over. You don't get that with Safin, or Blofeld. It's like they haven't taken the time to put any flesh on the bones.
    Silva was done much better, wasn't he? He's the best villain of the Craig era I reckon.
    For me, the actor playing Sanchez provides the role with great conviction and is one of the more successful aspects of LTK. He's scarry, believable (within the world of Bond) and projects every inch the intimidating, thuggish & sadistic killer. No physical deformities required to compensate for otherwise lackadaisical characterisation ... which is a measure, I think, as to how disappointing the Craig villains, both primary & secondary, have been as a whole.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Matt007 wrote: »
    When Safin says to bond “I have something of yours [Mathilde] and you have something of mine[?] “ to what is he referring?

    Madeleine. Soon after he proposes he wants Bond to leave with Mathilde, and leave Madeleine to him.

  • Posts: 1,085
    Feyador wrote: »
    For me, the actor playing Sanchez provides the role with great conviction and is one of the more successful aspects of LTK.

    I think Davi is brilliant in the role. There's real chemistry with him and Dalton. I remember seeing the scene where they shook hands for the first time at the cinema, and there was such tension there.
    The last nine Bond films have been a bit hit and miss when it comes to truly memorable villains. I'd go with Carver, Le Chifre and Silva as the most successful for my money.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Why do so many people want villains to be spelled out for them? I like the fact that saffin is so crazy. I don't need an explanation. He wanted revenge on sp, he wants to possess Madeleine and he wants to be able to kill anyone anywhere around the world, in line with his poison-brewing family. He can make a lot of money that way, by either blackmailing (governments) or beeing paid by criminals. The possibilities are endless.
  • FeyadorFeyador Montreal, Canada
    edited December 2021 Posts: 735
    It's not even a question of "explanation" that is my main problem with Safin. It's also the lack of interesting characterization and a miscast actor playing him that is the bigger problem, which no amount of Dr. No trappings & physical disfigurement can disguise. Malek just lacks the gravitas as a main Bond villain. For me he'd have been better in the role of Valdo or as a SPECTRE assassin. Superbly creepy in the PTS, but just weak everywhere else ....

    Just my view, other opinions are available, of course ....
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Why do so many people want villains to be spelled out for them? I like the fact that saffin is so crazy. I don't need an explanation. He wanted revenge on sp, he wants to possess Madeleine and he wants to be able to kill anyone anywhere around the world, in line with his poison-brewing family. He can make a lot of money that way, by either blackmailing (governments) or beeing paid by criminals. The possibilities are endless.
    Yeah I got his motivations in the first few minutes of the film @CommanderRoss. Further confirmed and built on throughout. Not least his state of insanity.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Mallory wrote: »
    moonraker5 wrote: »
    Hi all.
    I have the uk version on blu-ray and watched MTTD I the scene where Paloma says “someone likes the spotlight” (avoiding spoilers here) is missing!!!!

    Did they remove it or cut it from the uk blu ray version? Can someone please check for me next time they watch it??? It’s sending me west (was I dreaming the scene) hahahaha.

    Happy holidays!!
    I always thought she said “you’re popular tonight” when the spotlights come down on Bond during the cuba party.
    It is that, but she also says something before that that I can’t quite make out.
    Just before it, Ana says "Coño!" (oh crap!) when the spotlight turns to Bond.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,588
    QBranch wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    moonraker5 wrote: »
    Hi all.
    I have the uk version on blu-ray and watched MTTD I the scene where Paloma says “someone likes the spotlight” (avoiding spoilers here) is missing!!!!

    Did they remove it or cut it from the uk blu ray version? Can someone please check for me next time they watch it??? It’s sending me west (was I dreaming the scene) hahahaha.

    Happy holidays!!
    I always thought she said “you’re popular tonight” when the spotlights come down on Bond during the cuba party.
    It is that, but she also says something before that that I can’t quite make out.
    Just before it, Ana says "Coño!" (oh crap!) when the spotlight turns to Bond.

    Nice, thanks!

    Also, it took me until I got the bluray and was able to watch with subtitles to hear Nomi say "I'm into old wrecks" when she's giving Bond a ride back to his place in Jamaica. Great line, now that I understand it.
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    Why do so many people want villains to be spelled out for them? I like the fact that saffin is so crazy. I don't need an explanation. He wanted revenge on sp, he wants to possess Madeleine and he wants to be able to kill anyone anywhere around the world, in line with his poison-brewing family. He can make a lot of money that way, by either blackmailing (governments) or beeing paid by criminals. The possibilities are endless.

    It’s kind of a big leap to go from wanting revenge on spectre in act 1 and 2, to killing potentially every man woman and child on Earth in act three, explained with one line of dialogue
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