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At some point in future Craig's last three will be viewed as the nonsense they are. And I'm all about enjoying nonsense, but I kind of expect one to admit it. I enjoy SP, but it's not a very good movie. Neither are SF or NTTD.
I has spoken.
I remain a firm, huge fan of Skyfall and NTTD - as well as (along with majority of fans here, I believe) CR. I also liked Quantum more when I saw it again. I always liked parts of it; just not the editing, pace, flow, some of the camera work. I did not feel as let down by QOS as I did from Spectre. Spectre had some good things going for it in obvious ways, especially at first glance - but it lacked in heart. Really missing for me (Bond and the whole story) was passion or conviction. Just the way I've felt about it, even on repeat viewing before I saw NTTD (I watched it on Amazon Prime). Not saying anybody else's take on any Bond film is "wrong". But that's where I stand.
So yes, Skyfall and NTTD provided me with a stellar Bond experience. Both stories and films so beautifully done and memorable; great Bond moments. I think both will stay in my top 10. I never had any real quibbles with the storytelling in either. Spectre, on the other hand, now feels like a rehearsal to set up NTTD. A glamourous romp, a run-through, a warm up; some Bondian soda pop ... a mere pause to refresh, when the next course up would be genuine Champagne.
I'm thirsty now; back later. ;)
Our sub-club is very small, yes.
Then I rewatched SP and it plummeted in my rankings. The good parts stayed good but the bad parts seemed worse. Right now I rank it dead last of the Bonds I've seen (apart from CR67 and NTTD).
Spectre definitely had a fantastic Bondian vibe, the whole board meeting scene was incredible. Spectre has its faults, but no doubt it feels like a Bond film
Meanwhile, QOS will continue to be dismissed as the black sheep of Craig’s run. And rightfully so. ;)
I still think spectre is great.like, i remember in 2015 watching the movie in the teather at night and the budweiser commercial before, then the gunbarrel and...i was expecting a dark movie after skyfall, but this for me was great.
I like SP, despite its faults, but yes, I've often suspected that Mendes's heart wasn't really in it.
Both had broadly the same plot and ideas, but RN executed them far more successfully.
Spectre will probably be the biggest missed opportunity in the whole series. The potential is there. The execution just isnt.
I think it was in the sony leaks that Mendes tried to quit, but the contract was pretty watertight. I cant source that though, going on memory from the time.
I think that was when the deadline was approaching and Mendes didn’t want to commit to a script he wasn’t happy with. I think he did the best he could with what he had to work with, but it’s clear the script needed more work than time would allow.
And looking at some of the previous drafts, I think we really lucked out. There’s one where on the bridge Bond grabs Blofeld by the throat and holds him up in the air until he dies. It’s truly abysmal.
I get that’s the reason given by Mendes but to me it doesnt stand up to scrutiny given he was announced officially as returning in June 2013, and whole year and a half before shooting started in Dec 2014.
My belief is that they were too complacent after the success of SF and believed that the script would come together easily and when it didnt, everyone sh*t the bed and they had to bring back Purvis and Wade to do a quick salvage job.
Mendes complaining they didnt have enough time to finish the script is a bit rich. They did, it was squandered.
Brosnan would have been great in Spectre. Mendes’ vision didn’t let Daniel play to his strengths, and it all became forced.
Lol
Nope.
I suppose slow people like slow films
"Slow" is not necessarily a bad thing. Slower paced films usually allow a story to breathe, give actors ample time to shine, allow the viewer to absorb many details, and build tension with patience but big rewards at the end. Even then, "slow" is subjective. Films that cut like crazy and whose photographer cannot hold a shot for much longer than half a second aren't necessarily "fast". All depends on how the story is allowed to develop and how much we care about what is going on. I've sat through incredibly fast-paced, short movies that bored me to death from start to finish, while one of the least "fast-moving" films ever made -- 2001: A Space Odyssey -- can hold my attention all the way through.
RE: Craig in Spectre, I think his performance in the PTS is first class. It really felt like after 3 films of 'Becoming Bond' in various different ways, this was it, 007 at his peak. As for the rest of the film, I still like it but it does clash with the tone and the arc they're going for a bit. It clearly isn't the kind of plot where Bond is supposed to be like that. The knee injury very likely played a part in this, though.
Patience is a virtue.
So is my butthole
“Showing a bit more cheek than usual.”
Right, @ByRoyalDecree, this is not that kind of forum. Please refrain from ever making comments like this again. If you can think of nothing better to respond to @MakeshiftPython with, it's best to say nothing at all.
For me the half-brother angle is the second biggest and dumbest mistake of the Craig series after Bond's death. It makes no sense. It added nothing. It felt like a desperate attempt to create a shock that ended up coming across as silly. I realize it doesn't make sense to attempt any sort of continuity, but I am trying to imagine Dr. No saying to Connery's Bond, "I work for SPECTRE, a criminal organization headed by your half-brother." It would have been as ridiculous then as it was over fifty year later.