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Haha, bit harsh, surely? Like I've said on this thread you can't tell from the pics alone, which is why I also mentioned past performances from them. I'm sure many would have said the same if they'd seen a picture of Connery in '62, or a picture of Craig in 2006. I think each one of these actors could bring something a bit more unique to the role going from what I've seen of them, especially in comparison to the more run of the mill suggestions being touted in the press (Henry Cavill, Richard Madden and even Aidan Turner to a much lesser extent). Also, all have imbecile jawlines... not that that matters, but still.
What are your suggestions?
1. Nicholas Hoult
2. Tom Hughes
3. Aidan Turner
4. Theo James
5. Oscar Isaac
1. Theo James
2. Sam Claflin
3. Max Irons
4. Josh O' Connor
5. James Norton
Additional Wildcards:
* Jude Law
* Chris Hemsworth
Ah. I forgot about Dan Stevens. May need to slot him infront of Dickinson or Dornan...
1, Michael Fassbender
2, Cillian Murphy
3, Sam Heughan
5, Dan Stevens
6, Nicholas Hoult
* And my 2 additional wildcards who could do interesting screen tests :
- Matt Smith
- Alexander Scarsgard
I must admit that although I have seen and read most of the Bond (and John Le Carré) films and books I prefer the matter of fact raw noir espionage as portrayed in the Harry Palmer films based on Deighton's novels or even the dark satanic humour of Slow Horses. The good news is there is still hope for a Harry Palmer legacy but probably not via the “other Joe Cole”.
There is a series of intriguing and enigmatic fact based spy novels called The Burlington Files in which the protagonist (Edward Burlington aka Bill Fairclough, a real spy) has been likened to a posh Harry Palmer. What a life he must have led! There are six novels. The first (Beyond Enkription) only covers his life and time in 1974 with MI6 and the CIA in the UK, USA and Caribbean and it is a huge action packed thriller in its own right.
It's so real it made me wonder what was the point of reading espionage fiction when facts are so much more exciting. Len Deighton and Mick Herron could be forgiven for thinking they co-wrote this noir narrative. Atmospherically it's reminiscent of Ted Lewis' Get Carter of Michael Caine fame.
Let's hope one day soon a rare breed of film producer who doesn't rely on remakes or rehashes, makes brand new films based on The Burlington Files series. If they do they'll only have themselves to blame if they don't go down in film history as classic espionage thrillers.
Alexander Skarsgard couldn’t pass for a Briton even if he practiced relentlessly. A-list Swedish actors can’t even pull off simple American accents, it’s kind of embarrassing.
It is a shame really because there is so much promising talent with international potential and schooling that never get a break in my home country. David Dencik who played Obruchev in NTTD is a good example of someone with a wider range but even he struggles to sound authentic.
Interestingly enough old stars such as Greta Garbo and Ingrid Bergman or even Alexander’s dad Stellan had lesser trouble with accents despite lesser globalisation back in the day.
Honestly maybe a Dalton approach with him in the lead or an early Craig approach dark close to Fleming down to earth
It could work
That's why I said based on these pics alone: that was irrespective of anything else and I am always happy to reconsider my judgement when new evidence arises.
I suggested a few fairly obscure names in this thread. So far I don't have anyone I'd consider a sure bet.
That's the one. I'm sorry I couldn't remember you're username mate.
My 5 would be
Aidan Turner
Richard Madden
Tom Hughes
Leo Suter
Callum Turner
( mainly for @Denbigh and because I can't see many of the others in the role. He'd need a better haircut though)
I think Aidan Turner or Madden would be a clean slate TLD/Goldeneye style reboot. Here's the new Bond in his new world, don't worry about timelines or connections, this is Bond #7.
Hughes or Suter would be my picks if they were to be inspired by The Batman and go for her a young Bond, in his early days as 007.
I could picture Hughes being like a Dalton style spy and Suter being a tougher version of Brosnan, similar to how it would have been had Brosnan been cast in 87.
I hope they just reboot and go for a Bond in his prime and give us a classic film. Hopefully it's a grounded film, that's got full on action, exotic locations and some great witty dialogue
Fair enough. I'd look at some of those actor's work. I particularly think Bannon and Hughes are in good positions to get auditions based on Pennyworth and The Game respectively. O'Connell has grown on me and has something interesting about him. At the end of the day we can only speculate though. I think you're right, no one's a sure bet, and we're not in a situation similar to Brosnan's casting in the early 90s. If anything this is more similar to the run up to Craig's casting - many lesser known actors thrown into the mix but ultimately the right candidate will shine during the auditions.
I think O’Connell might be in a good position for it too. He gave two critically acclaimed lead performances in 71, directed by Yan Demange, and Starred Up, directed by David Mckenzie. Both those directors met with the producers for NTTD, so I’d imagine Barbara has seen the films, and he strikes me as the sort of actor she likes. He’s also the right age and he’s not too famous. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he was on a list somewhere.
I still think the smart money is on a black or asian actor getting it though. Whether you like the idea or not, can you really, honestly imagine them going another 50 years just casting white guys? I can’t personally. And while a few years ago I would’ve guessed that Bond no 7 would be white and Bond no 8 would be black, Craig stayed much longer than I thought he would. And they do have a complete clean slate now thanks to CraigBond’s death, which is what they’d need for a casting like that.
39 isn’t ideal, but Dornan is the same age. And the more I think about Stevens the more I like the idea. He can do both weird and straight very well. Could bring a good mixture of Craig’s serious style, Moore‘s fun and Fleming‘s original absurdity.
(See, I told you I’d have three new names every day. Stevens and Styles for Dornan and Dickinson. Maybe we’ll do actor’s starting with H tomorrow…)
Dan Stevens
Aidan Turner
Oliver Jackson-Cohen
Sam Claflin
Yes, Dan Stevens is probably too old, but I'd just love to see what he'd do with the character - he's got such range, it would be interesting. Aidan Turner is only a year younger than Stevens, so he might well miss out due to age, what with the (apparent) lack of movement at Eon on the Bond front.
some horrible suggestions ive seen that are sickening. i mean a black bond? you're just gonna piss off 50% of the audiences. good luck with that in America.
A suggestion: think before writing (or at the very least, stop reading Breitbart).
Yes, I respect your point of view and being honest, I don't disagree really in terms of the accent. That's why I put him as a wild card. I think other than the voice though he has potential in terms of screen presence and physicality.
He hasn't a chance of getting the role, I just feel he's an interesting one to ponder.
It’s disturbing how brazen some folks have gotten over this kind of thing lately…
Agree @FoxRox …. There’s no place for this type of crap…. 2022 and all of that…. I have zero patience for it. Nauseating and shows a character who lives in a very small world.
By a long shot. Charisma to spare. Masculine. Athletic and he can, you know, do the acting thing pretty damn well.
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Interesting thoughts about O'Connell. I think he's got something about him, a strong screen presence. Good actor too. Can definitely see him getting an audition.
As for a black or Asian Bond, I'd say I'm sceptical that this will be the case this time round. Rege Jean-Page is a solid candidate but he seems to be engaged with a reboot of The Saint and I can imagine his interpretation (a more gentlemanly Moore-esque Bond going from what I've seen of him) not chiming with the direction of the next film. Same for someone like Henry Golding (although I think he's just a touch too clean cut for Bond, and I've not seen him in anything that strikes me as Bond-esque). Idris Elba is too old although I'm so down for him playing M. I've seen Kingsley Ben-Adir suggested but he strikes me as more a Bill Tanner than a Bond, which I also genuinely want to see. I certainly think they'll be open to auditioning non-white British actors but from what I can tell I think the next Bond will be white and British. I do, however, think the cast will be more diverse than what we've seen before.
Idris Elba doesn't look that old without a beard, and he doesn't need to stay on for 20 years or even 10. He looks younger than me and I am not even in my 30s yet.
8-> :x he's so handsome.
Mrs. Broccoli, please take a look at this.
Oddly Craig always struck me as more Dutch looking if anything. I mean, you're certainly not going to get his ethnicity confused with anything other than White Caucasian.
I think it's more a case of them wanting to keep the next Bond actor for as long as possible. Elba's nearly 50, even by Bond standards that would be an unprecedented age for a new actor to take over. I really do want him to play M though. The guy just has this strong screen presence/charisma. I can definitely see him playing an incarnation of the character who is hard-line, effective and commands respect (say what you want about Fienne's M, but Craig's Bond certainly did not respect him, and his questionable decisions during NTTD don't put him in a particularly good light)
Also I could totally see Batman be played by a black actor as well. Hell why not cast Idris for that one too, he fits every bill.
I really like Jon Hamm. That said I think the tone they wanted with Affleck and Pattinson's films were darker and more consciously different takes on the character. Hamm would play a good mid-career Wayne/Batman (I can particularly see him doing the playboy stuff really well) but I think they needed a younger, more brooding actor for The Batman and someone a bit more serious and angry for Snyder's films. If the Snyder's Batman vs Suprman had been more along the lines of the Animated Series Batman/Superman crossover I'd have said Hamm was a good pick... as it is it's better he had nothing to do with that film.
I can see Elba doing a good rendition of the The Dark Knight Returns style Batman.