Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I’m willing to bet they’ve already found their man or at least narrowed it down to a select few but are wise enough not to disclose that kind of information at this time. EON is known to have had a shortlist of actors who they see as potential Bonds. So let’s not take her word for it that they haven’t looked. They always do, even as a contingency if their actors depart the role unexpectedly.
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    I’m willing to bet they’ve already found their man or at least narrowed it down to a select few but are wise enough not to disclose that kind of information at this time. EON is known to have had a shortlist of actors who they see as potential Bonds. So let’s not take her word for it that they haven’t looked. They always do, even as a contingency if their actors depart the role unexpectedly.

    I've said that a few times so also find this claim from BB kinda surprising. I guess even if they do have such a list it'll be about auditions, schedules, finding the right actor for the movie etc. Craig's popularity as the character among general audiences also makes it a tricky task, at least in their eyes.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Yeah I'd say there's a bit of misdirection going on here. To what extent, I do not know. But I would imagine they've definitely discussed a general direction (even internally) and have a shortlist already, and are working from there.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    And as mentioned, she was asked at a broadway production Daniel Craig starred in. There was no chance in hell she was going to undermine that by talking about how close Bond 26 is in casting. This would be like if at the premiere of a James Bond film a different producer was asked who the next Batman is and they give an answer. That kind of news would overshadow the night.

    In fact, something like that happened with Bond. George Lazenby’s goes on a late night talk show and says he already quit the role. We even saw something like that with Craig making a crass joke about rather slashing his wrists and how that came back and bit him in the ass.
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    I suppose the claim that it'll take 'some time' is vague enough to mean anything really. I'd personally say that a casting process for such a role that's under a year (about ten months or so) is pretty quick but could easily be seen as a long time and is a plausible time frame.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    I agree, as well. Because, apart from Connery's YOLT, this is the first time EON really knew it was the actor's last film. So they definitely have a shortlist. Another thing is, since Barbara is a huge fan of Craig's portrayal of 007, she won't just cast anyone without careful consideration, knowing the new guy is replacing the brilliant Craig. So it is expected to take some time.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    We know she’s loyal to Craig, but I’m wondering if the other pair that she’s loyal to are coming back, or if they have got a couple of story ideas in their labtops: Purvis and Wade. I wouldn’t be surprised. Or if Cary or Phoebe are working on something, together or separately. James Bond will return, someone’s always writing about him (including the novels).
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    None of us on the outside can really know where things stand; it’s safe to say that it’s further along than some may think, but not as far along as some may hope.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    We know she’s loyal to Craig, but I’m wondering if the other pair that she’s loyal to are coming back, or if they have got a couple of story ideas in their labtops: Purvis and Wade. I wouldn’t be surprised. Or if Cary or Phoebe are working on something, together or separately.

    That'd be interesting to see. BB certainly seemed willing to let Purvis and Wade go once Danny Boyle came onboard initially for Bond 25. Certainly they've been hit or miss, although that's not unusual. Could we see a similar situation if Fukanaga came out with a strong concept, or indeed anyone else who manages to pitch an idea to EON? I doubt Waller-Bridge would be involved unless specifically asked to do so. Fresh blood wouldn't be a bad idea perhaps...
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    This is live so I don’t have an exact time but casting the new Bond is discussed towards the end .

  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    I suspect will get the next Broccoli-Craig film announcement before we get any new Bond news
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    I really wish the Broccoli family would pass it on at this point.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I really wish the Broccoli family would pass it on at this point.

    To be fair, I would wait until a full year after NTTD’s release, before expecting any announcement. There was at least a whole year between Brosnan’s dismissal and Craig’s hiring. It would also be great PR if they waited until October 5th on DN’s 60th anniversary to announce the new Bond.

    The only time we saw super fast recasting was when Dalton officially departed in April 94 and then Brosnan was announced in June 94.
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    peter wrote: »
    There was a lot of activity during Covid-- the main one being: marketing and releasing a successful film that had been sitting in the digital can, losing money on interest alone.

    Each of the Bond films is its own entity and needs a budget and financing; with the last film not yet released, who was going to finance the development of the next film (especially when the last film hadn't been released)? It cost money to call in script writers to develop and execute even the simplest of outlines.

    And speaking of financing, there was too much volatility surrounding MGM to even think about the next film, let alone start throwing money at it (in effect, there really was no money!).

    And then there were some questions at EoN and how this family company was going to move forward...

    There was a lot going on behind the scenes that needed figuring out that we, and the press, weren't privy to...

    Yeah a lot of people forget how expensive these movies are, and the coordination that goes into financing them. These are BIG movies.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Maybe I am projecting, because that is what we do, but I would expect anyone who is involved in these films at a high level just always having that thought stuck in the back of their head whenever they see an actor who might broadly fit the bill: "Could he do it? How would he do it?" and possibly even for directors and writers. My assumption would be that Hollywood executives basically always jump to "how and on what could I work with that person?" whenever they see something they like.
    In Being James Bond BB talks about how she wanted Craig for Bond after seeing him walk down a hallway menecingly in Elizabeth (he obviously had much more going for him as well, but I sometimes have to remind myself that something like that can be the spark..). That film is from 1998 - although I don't know when she saw it and in what context - so not when they would have been actively looking and years before Craig got a call.
    I also wonder how many actual, serious pitches for the next Bond - both actor and story - Eon just get without ever putting out a request. I'm sure fans and wannabes write to them with ideas everyday, but I'd love to know if that also happens when BB or MGW is just meeting someone at a party or whatever. Especially now with NTTD's end, they probably never hear the end of "I had this idea..."
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    There is simply no point in giving details if they are progressing things in any way. She is simply giving the standard PR response that keeps things calm and enables them to get on with the job without media intrution/gossip etc at a time when they don't need media intrusion.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I really wish the Broccoli family would pass it on at this point.

    I'm concerned about the next direction of the series, but I think I would be more worried if Barbara, Michael and Gregg weren't involved to be honest.
    I may have occasional doubts but they know what Bond is and what makes the series special

    Why do you feel like that @Birdleson mate?
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    It can be frustrating being a Bond fan. We all want to see our favourite series continue, be popular, and be successful. And the interpreted 'delays' and frustrations that come out of that can be disheartening.

    It is frustrating when other series can continue at a more regular pace (one Bond film in the last 6 years compared to say, 13 mainline MCU films, two F&F Films (plus spin off), 9 DECU films, and more directly comparable, a M:I film with two more confirmed and coming up.

    We have just had 'NTTD', we're only 8 months on from that.

    My suspicion is that during the delays for that, the focus went into maintaining the marketing for the film, monitoring the marketplace, and having discussions around that and with their brand marketing partners. As much as I would have liked it, I doubt they would have put much into developing "Bond 26" whilst Bond 25 was still to launch and was a bit of a hot potato (due to external reasons affecting it).

    I suppose now that the Amazon merger has completed, they (Babs and MGW) need to sit down with the new people there and at MGM and really hash out what they want to do going forward. We already have this 007 themed reality TV show coming which I cant say I am overly keen on, but it shows active development on the series at least.

    Will they continue with the same structure of just films at 2-3 year intervals with a single Bond (my hope and probably EON's too) or will they want to try and "cinematic universe" it (probably Amazon's hope, and for my two-cents, an extremely bad idea)?

    Only once that is defined, can we see any development begin on the next Bond movie.

    My guess? If we are lucky they'll hash it all out over the summer, and we may get an announcement on JBD that Bond 26 is now in active development, perhaps with a target 'Autumn 24' release date.

    Until then, its all speculation.



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    There was a recent Bond Geek video on YouTube discussing rumors that Nolan was indeed directing the next film and that Cavill and Turner were the two finalists to take over. Also that the official announcement would occur in October.

    In addition, another announcement that B26 had begun development would occur shortly after Barbara finishes Daniel's play.

    This was very optimistic and put a smile on my face for about two minutes until I read the Barbara article that it's going to take time.
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    If the films are too far in between I could totally see the next actor do Bond cameos in ensemble films like Roger Moore did in Cannonball Run. I wouldn’t mind if Craig appeared in a remake or a new Scary Movie film, in character. It would be a really refreshing contrast to contemporary Hollywood monotony.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    This was very optimistic and put a smile on my face for about two minutes until I read the Barbara article that it's going to take time.

    TBF Babs isnt going to answer "yes we are on track and announcing in October" if that were the case.

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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    There was a recent Bond Geek video on YouTube discussing rumors that Nolan was indeed directing the next film and that Cavill and Turner were the two finalists to take over. Also that the official announcement would occur in October.

    Pfffft. I'm willing to bet my right testicle none of these people will be involved in Bond 26. Good thing too.
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I really wish the Broccoli family would pass it on at this point.

    I'm concerned about the next direction of the series, but I think I would be more worried if Barbara, Michael and Gregg weren't involved to be honest.
    I may have occasional doubts but they know what Bond is and what makes the series special

    Why do you feel like that @Birdleson mate?

    I agree with Birdleson. I feel the producers are stale in their decision making, and it needs new input with a fresh creative team. Throw out P&W immediately. Some of the regular team can stay on board like Kleinman, and I would welcome a return to David Arnold.

    But it needs a shake up with a clean slate. The Fleming books need revaluating, to look closer at adapting the unused material, and then after that looking towards the continuation novels, rather than endless script rewrite after rewrite by committee.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    007HallY wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    There was a recent Bond Geek video on YouTube discussing rumors that Nolan was indeed directing the next film and that Cavill and Turner were the two finalists to take over. Also that the official announcement would occur in October.

    Pfffft. I'm willing to bet my right testicle none of these people will be involved in Bond 26. Good thing too.

    Let's hope they don't drop the ball in casting Bond 26. Then you won't have to either
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    This is the isolated portion of the livestream that I posted yesterday. There are no revaluations but it’s an interesting listen.

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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    There was a recent Bond Geek video on YouTube discussing rumors that Nolan was indeed directing the next film and that Cavill and Turner were the two finalists to take over. Also that the official announcement would occur in October.

    Pfffft. I'm willing to bet my right testicle none of these people will be involved in Bond 26. Good thing too.

    Let's hope they don't drop the ball in casting Bond 26. Then you won't have to either

    Haha! I'm not too worried. Been betting it since 2005 when people claimed Clive Owen would become the next Bond.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Guess that's proof that some things really do work out for the best...
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    @Jordo007 I just haven't been happy with the overall approach for some time, even when I'm fairly pleased with the outcome (QOS, SF). The whole universe building combined with the over dependance on an actor are not where I would have like to see their efforts focused.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Everything will be fine next year. Let's not act like we didn't just get a movie months ago, and all of the corporate shuffling and firing of Eon's friends at the studios that might make them just a bit bitter to say anything publicly for some time to come, maybe in defiance of their new "friends" at Amazon. Who knows, but I doubt that deal didn't quietly disappoint the family. They know they won't have to wait long until Amazon is breathing down their neck, so they're probably trying to do as little work now as possible. I don't blame them.

    I do respect and appreciate BB and I don't blame any producer who manages to actually get along with their talent, even if I didn't always love the outcome of their projects. BB and the Wilsons are second only to the Fleming estate when it comes down to who rightfully deserves anything, and I curse the day they give up on us, or are forced to sell.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'll have patience because the series hasn't been consistent in its release patterns in a long, long time. I'll just assume we'll get an announcement by 2023/2024 and be pleasantly surprised if it happens sooner.
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