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It may actually turn out to be harder for the alleged abuser to come out of this if it isn’t true because there’s nothing illegal being reported so it won’t go to court, unless he sues of course.
I'll also add that, even if Fukunaga was also given a screenwriting credit for NTTD, he wasn't given free reign on such a production. True Detective was also a production for which both him and Nic Pizzolatto had some clout. It's different for Maniac, the Netflix miniseries, as Fukunaga had come up with the project and had much more control about casting or credits, especially as two majors stars were already attached. And it definitely brought the jerk in him.
https://people.com/movies/henry-cavill-criticized-saying-hesitant-flirt-over-fears-of-being-called-rapist/?amp=true
All of the popular stars has been called rapist or accused of sexual harassment these days.
There's a famous saying in our country:
"A tree that bears a lot of fruits is often pelted with stones.".
If you're a big star, they will accused you of different bad or worst accusations. Because you're too much popular.
Like some people throwing some stones at the tree full of fruits.
Absolutely…
+1
It doesn’t mean you have to accept that it’s true, and it’s fine to await a final judgement from the court before saying anything, but they should be believed and investigated as such, and certainly never accused of lying just because the person in the frame is famous etc.
Still, I don't think that much will come out of the reports, even if more women come with similar stories. He apparently committed no crime. He didn't cross a line, like Ryan Adams did when he engaged on the Internet with a minor. He just acted like a jerk and a creep with a fetish on young and vulnerable women, but of legal age. He will most likely do something like spending a month in therapy for sex addiction, and he will resume his career. But if some young actress thinks that the guy acts weird towards her, she'll just need to google him to hear about these stories. And he won't be able to pose as a male feminist on social media anymore. And I guess that's what these women were trying to achieve. Not to wreck his career, but to warn others (and the industry) of what he's capable of.
We seem to be in agreement. 😉
I like that you disagree with yourself as much as you disagree with others on here. That's a very fair-minded approach!
Orson Welles took writing credits for CITIZEN KANE. Then, Charlie Chaplin hired Welles to write the script for MONSIEUER VERDOUX, then bought the script from Welles, crediting Welles with only the "idea" and claiming the script as his own.
If it turns out, that Fukunaga did, what he is accused of, then shame on him. Interesting is, however, that, when Fukunaga did TRUE DETECTIVE, he probably wasn't a famous director (and if you compare series 2 and 3 to series 1, you can really see the difference in quality, pacing, acting and directing). And up till now, Fukunaga did not "Weinstein" these people.
Never knew, there was a word like "to Weinstein somebody", but it makes sense. And the system Hollywood is a corrupted one, hypocrites, vanity fair all around, and it always had been this way. The Academy fired Polanski some times after #metoo started. But they did not do that thirty years earlier, when he was put on trial for what he did to this young girl. It was all in the media, but the Academy did not feel the need to sanction Polanski for escaping to Europe during the trial. He even got an Oscar for THE PIANIST (which he did not pick up himself, as the LAPD would have arrested him on the spot).
So regaring Fukunaga, we should wait, what finally comes off it. As long as he is not found guilty, or makes a confession, he as everybody else has to be considered as innocent.
@Peter: Sorry to hear about what this producer did to you.
And Thompson actually got a proper screenwriting credit on Paths of Glory, then developed a treatment based on an original idea by Kubrick, Lunatic at Large (which was lost for decades but may end getting developed in the next few years). So, their relationship had somehow recovered in spite of that initial conflict.
And that's a mistake that too many people make. Acting like a jerk won't magically turn you into the next Stanley Kubrick. It's more likely to turn you into the next Troy Duffy.
The difference being that Welles actually did co-write CITIZEN KANE. Pauline Kael's foolish claims to the contrary were contested by Welles's friends and collaborators and finally thoroughly debunked by Robert Carringer in his excellent book The Making of Citizen Kane.
No offense, but people’s ability to judge character is at an all time low, especially in the film industry where a bunch of stuck up talentless attention seeking dweebs radiate false virtue to further their own careers. Obviously marketing budgets and efforts have to increase to compensate.
I am all for minority representation, being from one of the most underrepresented ethnic groups myself, but bad pretentious writing, casting and directing is slowly killing the entire industry. It’s as if industry personnel are unable to distinguish facts from fiction and are allergic to actual talent and pop culture relevance (or they are just afraid of competent competition).
Most real psychos pretend to be nice, at least the jerks are honest and keep their integrity intact.
With sympathy for the bolded part, I'd still like to ask to avoid unnecessarily harshly formulated generalizations. Most of what you wrote isn't just happening now; it's been going on since the earliest days of the movie business. The past seems so glorious sometimes, but we often forget that loads of "talentless" anythings put out loads of crappy films before recent times just as well. Most of that stuff has been forgotten or buried in niche markets, and our general appreciation of past decades is mostly built on the memorable stuff alone--the "golden" films from when the Sun still shone over Hollywood. Nah, they made crap then and they make crap now; they made greatness then and they make greatness now.
Unless I'm reading you wrong, you're suggesting that "positive representation" or "more inclusion" are killing the art of filmmaking. I thought so too, once. But to be fair, most films aren't really being affected by any of that. The very high-profile, often Disney films that are, catch a lot of attention but still are few. And only a handful of those few spit their messages directly in our face, without subtlety or nuance. A lot of films do have something to say, and can't be blamed for doing so.
A lot of films still have "good taste" and great talent behind them as well. They may not all be the "200 million dollars" blockbusters whose posters we see everywhere, but they still count for something. There's a big section of the weekly output that we so often overlook -- underpromoted, hardly noticed, small films -- that qualify as artistic, beautiful, charming, great... But it usually takes us a while to find them.
Lastly, I understand the anger, but the final sentence added nothing to your post and the choice of words, even when "coded", isn't doing it any favours either. Since we're not the YouTube comment section, I'd like to politely ask to refrain from using them while here. Thanks. :)
Alright... In MANK Fincher insinuates, that Welles nicked the (co-)writer credit together with Mankiewicz (BTW the uncle of Tom Mankiewicz), who claimed, that Welles did not contribute anything for the sript. Got that wrong. Sorry.
The two statements you quote aren’t contradictory.