Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    James Cameron Once Said, “James Bond Movies Are Rotten To Their Core,” & Called The Character A ‘Womanizing Drunk’ & ‘Complete Scumbag’

    https://www.koimoi.com/hollywood-news/james-cameron-once-said-james-bond-movies-are-rotten-to-their-core-called-the-character-a-womanizing-drunk-complete-scumbag/
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    '...but I’d really like to be that guy' added Cameron. Well, there you go.
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    Get some A.I. to write a phenomenal script, then an amazing director to create it.
  • Get some A.I. to write a phenomenal script, then an amazing director to create it.

    A.I stories so fair really kinda suck
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    The internet regurgitating 30 year old comments? Not surprising.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The internet regurgitating 30 year old comments? Not surprising.

    Exactly! =D>

    The Bond fan standard has dropped low when we're rooting for A.I. to take over.
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    Lol that just came out as I'm currently collaborating with a.i. on my first novella. Regardless, that script must be phenomenal. And how many swan dives has Ethan Hunt made since Brosnan!
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    James Cameron Once Said, “James Bond Movies Are Rotten To Their Core,” & Called The Character A ‘Womanizing Drunk’ & ‘Complete Scumbag’

    https://www.koimoi.com/hollywood-news/james-cameron-once-said-james-bond-movies-are-rotten-to-their-core-called-the-character-a-womanizing-drunk-complete-scumbag/

    James Cameron needs too take a LONG look in a mirror and self reflection before he goes around calling other things rotten to the core.
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    James Cameron Once Said, “James Bond Movies Are Rotten To Their Core,” & Called The Character A ‘Womanizing Drunk’ & ‘Complete Scumbag’

    https://www.koimoi.com/hollywood-news/james-cameron-once-said-james-bond-movies-are-rotten-to-their-core-called-the-character-a-womanizing-drunk-complete-scumbag/
    Lol that just came out as I'm currently collaborating with a.i. on my first novella. Regardless, that script must be phenomenal. And how many swan dives has Ethan Hunt made since Brosnan!

    Which AI program are you using?
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Would A.I. have come up with Brofeld...? 🤔
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Would A.I. have come up with Brofeld...? 🤔

    Only with 'cuckoo', I presume. ;-)
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Would A.I. have come up with Brofeld...? 🤔

    I wonder if an A.I. generated threat would be something worth in exploring in a future Bond film.
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
    edited March 2023 Posts: 693
    AI would be a good topic to explore in Bond 27 or 28, after Bond 26 gives us a more normal Bond movie. As long as it doesn't involve terminator-like robots like that unused Dalton script, Bond going up against some sort of AI-related conspiracy would be a fresh idea for the series. There could even be some humor in it, like Bond losing a card game to a computer or something.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Venutius wrote: »
    Would A.I. have come up with Brofeld...? 🤔

    I wonder if an A.I. generated threat would be something worth in exploring in a future Bond film.

    That's a great idea. It is a genuine threat.
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    I think writers have to be careful with something like AI. It's a hot button topic, but so was surveillance when SP was released, and look how uninspired and dull that idea worked out. Nothing about it spoke to the fears and potential dangers that such technology could create if used in the wrong hands.

    To make something like that work, you have to make the concept genuinely scary. And to do that you sometimes have to come up with something that's 'five minutes into the future', especially with Bond films. As much as I have issues with NTTD, they seemed to understand this concept with the nanobots.
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    Maybe Bond, another 00, or MI6 at large is convincingly framed by AI / a villain who used it, and that sets off the plot.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Maybe Bond, another 00, or MI6 at large is convincingly framed by AI / a villain who used it, and that sets off the plot.

    Perhaps either a fake A.I. generated image of Bond in a compromising situation or something similar to TND but rather than fake headlines fake images of some sort of threat.

    Doesn't have to be anything too sci-fi, just something simple that kicks off an utter sh*t storm.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I think writers have to be careful with something like AI. It's a hot button topic, but so was surveillance when SP was released, and look how uninspired and dull that idea worked out. Nothing about it spoke to the fears and potential dangers that such technology could create if used in the wrong hands.

    To make something like that work, you have to make the concept genuinely scary. And to do that you sometimes have to come up with something that's 'five minutes into the future', especially with Bond films. As much as I have issues with NTTD, they seemed to understand this concept with the nanobots.
    In the 80’s Wargames was very successful with an AI threat premise that felt credible.
  • edited March 2023 Posts: 4,160
    If we're going with 'dark' technology I can imagine something like Elon Musk's weird neuralink project being a concept.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuralink

    I mean, the idea of a villain implanting people with chips in their brain in a sort of OHMSS type situation is pretty scary. Could mix it with an adaptation of the brainwashing concept seen in Fleming's TMWTGG (or a sort of Manchurian candidate/Ipcress File concept).
    007HallY wrote: »
    I think writers have to be careful with something like AI. It's a hot button topic, but so was surveillance when SP was released, and look how uninspired and dull that idea worked out. Nothing about it spoke to the fears and potential dangers that such technology could create if used in the wrong hands.

    To make something like that work, you have to make the concept genuinely scary. And to do that you sometimes have to come up with something that's 'five minutes into the future', especially with Bond films. As much as I have issues with NTTD, they seemed to understand this concept with the nanobots.
    In the 80’s Wargames was very successful with an AI threat premise that felt credible.

    Never seen it, but the synopsis looks interesting.
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    Red_Snow wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Maybe Bond, another 00, or MI6 at large is convincingly framed by AI / a villain who used it, and that sets off the plot.

    Perhaps either a fake A.I. generated image of Bond in a compromising situation or something similar to TND but rather than fake headlines fake images of some sort of threat.

    Doesn't have to be anything too sci-fi, just something simple that kicks off an utter sh*t storm.

    One of the reasons I like FRWL. The lektor was a ruse to film Bond in a compromising situation and embarrass the British. It wasn't world crisis stuff, but personal. Deep fake technology could be employed in a similar scheme. For example, Bond accused of assassinating an important political figure.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    How about a pts, where Bond is implicated in an assassination or something similar by the villain using AI?
    An mostly unseen Bond is seemingly killed by the British or US and we have a funeral for Bond at the beginning of the movie, like in YOLT.
    So far the villains and the audience don’t know too much about our new Bond / the man on the assignment.
    Would be a little nod to the death of Craig’s Bond, a bit like the , “this never happened to the other fella.” From OHMSS..
    I like the AI idea though.
  • I will die if Lashana Lynch Is the next Bond

    I'm pretty confident she won't be back. Welcome to MI6 Shaken_Not_Stirred! ;)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    One month left until the WGA contract expires...

    I wonder if EON are actually trying to get something in place before then, or they've just accepted that its safer to sit back and let whatever happens play itself out?
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited March 2023 Posts: 3,152
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Venutius wrote: »
    Would A.I. have come up with Brofeld...? 🤔

    I wonder if an A.I. generated threat would be something worth in exploring in a future Bond film.

    Hey, I like that - and MGW said that they always look at what the world's currently afraid of and project it slightly into the future. I think you could well be onto something there, Red_Snow. Good call, mate.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited March 2023 Posts: 9,509
    One month left until the WGA contract expires...

    And two days left of March—“ sources” say ATJ was to be announced this month (after “wowing” EoN, he shot the famous gun barrel, which will also be unveiled at his March announcement).

    Have the press been called?

    ( 😂 )
  • Posts: 944
    CrabKey wrote: »

    Which AI program are you using?

    openai chatgpt

    Already made massive progress with outlines and chapter summaries and all that planning. The best thing is its knowledge, it gives me proper scientific details for using in expositions.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    That's very cool. I intend to be using it as a tool a little more too.
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    "Bond sat at the poker table, the green felt surface illuminated by the overhead lights. Across from him sat a sleek black device, a perfect cube with glowing blue letters that spelled out "A.I. Poker Pro". Bond couldn't help but feel a sense of unease as he looked at the machine. He had played against human opponents before, but this was different.

    The other players at the table, a mix of wealthy businessmen and socialites, watched with bated breath as Bond and the AI began their game. The first few hands went smoothly, with Bond winning small pots here and there. But as the game progressed, the AI began to pick up steam.

    Bond felt a thrill of excitement as he looked down at his cards - he had a flush, a very strong hand. He placed a hefty bet, hoping to make a killing. But the AI didn't flinch. It analyzed the cards on the table with lightning speed, calculating the odds and weighing the risks. And then, without a hint of hesitation, it matched Bond's bet.

    The tension in the room was palpable as the players watched the final card hit the table. Bond's heart sank as he saw what it was - a card that would give the AI a straight, a hand even stronger than Bond's flush. He tried to keep his face impassive as he watched the AI confidently place its final bet.

    The other players gasped as Bond reluctantly laid down his cards, revealing his flush. But the AI was unfazed. It confidently revealed its own hand, the straight that had sealed Bond's fate. Bond felt a chill run down his spine as he looked at the machine. This wasn't just a poker game - it was a battle of man versus machine, and Bond was starting to feel like the underdog."
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited March 2023 Posts: 7,551
    CrabKey wrote: »

    Which AI program are you using?

    openai chatgpt

    Already made massive progress with outlines and chapter summaries and all that planning. The best thing is its knowledge, it gives me proper scientific details for using in expositions.

    If you're using AI to streamline research, that's fair as doing research sucks a lot. But as this is a forum of opinions, I feel as though it's appropriate to share mine; if a single line of AI written material ends up in a finished product, that's a really shitty thing to do.

    If you think for five seconds about where AI generated content comes from, written or visual art or otherwise, it's plaigarism at best.
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    James Cameron Once Said, “James Bond Movies Are Rotten To Their Core,” & Called The Character A ‘Womanizing Drunk’ & ‘Complete Scumbag’

    https://www.koimoi.com/hollywood-news/james-cameron-once-said-james-bond-movies-are-rotten-to-their-core-called-the-character-a-womanizing-drunk-complete-scumbag/

    There's really no lie here, but who said protagonists have to be fine upstanding citizens? Anyways, this seems to indicate that he'll never direct a Bond film which I think is good news.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,411
    CrabKey wrote: »

    Which AI program are you using?

    openai chatgpt

    Already made massive progress with outlines and chapter summaries and all that planning. The best thing is its knowledge, it gives me proper scientific details for using in expositions.

    If you're using AI to streamline research, that's fair as doing research sucks a lot. But as this is a forum of opinions, I feel as though it's appropriate to share mine; if a single line of AI written material ends up in a finished product, that's a really shitty thing to do.

    If you think for five seconds about where AI generated content comes from, written or visual art or otherwise, it's plaigarism at best.

    When it comes to technical stuff in novels that the author has little knowledge of, all they'll be doing is paraphrasing what they've read elsewhere anyway. They may give a credit, but I would imagine that happens a lot less than when it does.
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