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the scene you could live without.........
after watching every bond film over and over again i find myself watching certain scenes that i think the film could of done without.
for example the escape scene in thunderball from the car in the jancanoo, just the way it's shot and the music for some reason it just does not seem right? a slight time delay when JB is shot in the leg. up until JB bumps into the guy and the music stops. and then he proceeds to the Kiss Kiss club which is fine?
i have no idear why i find this wrong. just seems out of place in what for me is a perfect film.
the Cello case used as a Sledge in TLD again i just do not feel that the film needed it (glad they did not use the flying carpet scene that hit the cutting room floor)
The Beach Boys Music in AVTAK Not needed
there are loads more but i thought you all might have your own that you want to discuss. Would it in your own oppinions improve the films for you if certain Scenes where left out that are not crucial to the story line.
apologies if this has already been discussed but im new to this.
Regards
TJ
for example the escape scene in thunderball from the car in the jancanoo, just the way it's shot and the music for some reason it just does not seem right? a slight time delay when JB is shot in the leg. up until JB bumps into the guy and the music stops. and then he proceeds to the Kiss Kiss club which is fine?
i have no idear why i find this wrong. just seems out of place in what for me is a perfect film.
the Cello case used as a Sledge in TLD again i just do not feel that the film needed it (glad they did not use the flying carpet scene that hit the cutting room floor)
The Beach Boys Music in AVTAK Not needed
there are loads more but i thought you all might have your own that you want to discuss. Would it in your own oppinions improve the films for you if certain Scenes where left out that are not crucial to the story line.
apologies if this has already been discussed but im new to this.
Regards
TJ
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MWTGG- The fight with Nic Nac to me is too campy.
TND- Carver mocking Kung Fu.
Blasphemy.
i did not expect that? i thought someone here would make that comment on DAD but never GF
it is indeed Blasphemy
I'd say leave out the entire Aston Vanquish, it's pointless. They could have used a traditional method to get rid of the henchman. Also that flying fortress could go. Replace it with an infiltration on the PTS military base.
GF could do without the mobster gassing. That would give Bond some real investigation work while in Kentucky.
OHMSS could leave out the rally foolishness, that was just there to please those expecting slapstick in a Bond film.
DAF should have left out that cheap money machine Vegas. Even Disneyworld would have been more worthy of Bond.
LALD should cut the Routemaster and the airfield sequence. Again guilty of slapstick. Bond's sabotage mission on Isle of Surprise should have been expanded instead.
TMWTGG doesn't need the giant laser and the strangely deserted Solex-plant that powers it. A longer duel in Scaramanga's training gallery would help the film a lot instead.
MR would not have needed the gondola chase.
FYEO Maggie and Denis - no.
AVTAK Bond and Steed investigating the Zorin estate should have been done much, much better. As is I'd rather have no such scene than the one we got.
GE neither the tank chase (slapstick) nor the Z3 sequence (commercial; and a bad one at that) should have been shot.
TND BMW commercial must go.
TWINE the x-ray glasses come from a puberty wet-dream. So does the ensuing battle with the useless heavy. Could go.
CR either the embassy shoot out or the Miami action are too much for the film.
QOS large parts of the dogfight are superfluous. Instead the bar scene should be expanded with more comments that rub up the right people the wrong way and give homophobes an extra bone to chew on. In addition to the one it already gave them.
DAD The windsurfing scene; Moneypenny masturbating with the virtual reality glasses
the invisible car could have been left out; Jinx's cheesy dialogue
TMWTGG The karate school sequence
MR Jaws and Dolly
TWINE The final love making scene between Bond and Christmas
Ha ha ha. This is blasphemy. To rank on GF is like a rock fan saying Aqualung is not Jethro Tull's greatest album or that "Tommy" by the Who stinks. :)>-
The DAD CGI disaster. Tarzan yell.
Amen and preach on!
Other worthy nominations go to the fake wedding scene in YOLT (BORING!!!), the wind surfing CGI scene in DAD (cheesy), the boat chase in TMWTGG (not necessary, doesn't add anything to the pace or the plot), Jaws and Dolly's romance in MR (STUPID!!), and the ski chase in TWINE (doesn't add anything to the story or the pace, and isn't well-executed anyway).
Things that could of been left out of Bond releases ?, sounds so familiar, but in any event, -
Awful stupid sound effects as Connery obliterates a poor spider with his shoe in Doctor No
Said awful stupid sound effects as Moore and (Clifton) James goes for a somersault in Golden Gun, maybe even omit the whole scene even
Anything featuring Halle Berry
Anything featuring Denise Richards
Anything featuring Lois Chiles
The whole idea of 'James Bond goes into outer space' in Moonraker
Jill St John can't handle a machine gun in Diamonds are Forever
The return of Richard Kiel in Moonraker
The whole 'Karate school' epsiode in Golden Gun, and subsequent fight with Hip girls and Bond
Tank chase through Saint Petersburg seems a bit stupid sometimes, but we'll leave it be
Moore and Roberts in the shower at the end of a View to a Kill. The least said, the better
Jaws falling on to Circus Tent at the end of Moonraker PTS
The Zambora Incident in Diamonds are Forever, what was that about
All the underwater scenes from For Your Eyes Only. Damn boring
All the underwater scenes from Thunderball. As above
The whole 'Saint Marks Square bullshit sequence from Moonraker', but leave in the pigeon
James Bond 'jungle escape' from the Monsoon Palace, Octopussy
The whole elevator/fire/Roberts screaming from A View to a Kill
Sir Godfrey Tibbett meets a demise in a French car wash
Franz Sanchez and his stupid Iguana
Colonel Heller gets impaled on a fork lift truck
The whole chase with the tanker trucks in License to Kill
James Bond sniffing shoes in old Q stock room in Die Another Day
The Invisible Car idea from that release
Any scene with Johnathan Pryce saying 'Delicious'
Dalton and d'Abo on the Ferris Wheel at the Prater Fair, Vienna
Connery and Blackman rolling around in a barn
The two gypsy girls fighting, From Russia With Love, leave in subsequent attack by Krilencu forces
'Get your clothes on and I'll buy you an Ice Cream' - For Your Eyes Only
All of Bond at the Eiffel Tower, Paris, a View to a Kill
all of Grace Jones in above release
the 'Keystone Cops' of the San Francisco Police Department, same release
Bond and the Beach Boys surfing sequence, same movie
Bond and Octopussy on the boat at the end of said movie
the whole chase through the streets of India and ridiculous action sequences, Octopussy
Moore and Chiles 'attempting re-entry', Moonraker
The jump off the mountain at the start of The Spy Who Loved Me
John Cleese demonstrates his 'new coat' for Bond with embarrassing results
Brosnan and Berry 'Diamonds navel scene', end of Die another Day
Brosnan and Richards 'fireworks and turkey', end of The World Is Not Enough
Bond at the Tosca opera in Bergenz, Austria. Stupid idea
Dalton and Milovy ride in a cello case towards the Czech/Austrian border
Appearance of Blofeld ?, at the start of For Your Eyes Only, just omit the whole damn lot
James Bond turning Japanese in You Only Live Twice
James Bond jetpack in Thunderball. Damn stupid
The whole 'Pipeline sequence' of Bond in Diamonds are Forever, when Wint and Kidd try another elaborate (and stupid) death
The 'inflate killing' of Doctor Kananga in Live and Let Die
The 'genitals violation' of Bond by LeChiffre, Casino Royale
The whole second half of Tomorrow Never Dies
(This is just a small number of events and things I would of raced to leave out, but there you are)
DAD CGI wind surfing
MR Jaws/Dolly
LTK winking fish
QOS plane chase
QOS GF reference
QOS parkour chase (just poor really, they thought "people liked the CR free running, lets do another one!, and the editing style and the lack of any really cool stunts like the crane jump make it bad)
GF 90% of the time Bond is in jail
DAD finale on the plane
DAD invisible car
DAD Jinx's dialouge
QOS Any scene that features M going on about trust
QOS boat chase
YOLT japanese Bond
FYEO Blofeld being dropped down a chinmey
Well you are right about that, I had forgotten about that. Whoops! Thanks for calling it to my attention Crease! All right, now let's just say that I would have done without the ski chase because it's poorly executed.
Precisely! When it comes to ski chases, the best of them all, at least in my opinion, would have to be the one in For Your Eyes Only with 007 being chased by Kriegler and his goons. I thought it was well directed, executed, and very entertaining therefore.
But as for which ski chase is best, nothing can top TSWLM imo.
I think it's short but sweet. It's not that long, but what we do get is brilliant.
=)) That's brilliant!
My votes would be several random scenes featured in MR and DAD that I probably don't need to much elaborate on.
Hahaha, yeah this is one of the big ones.
Why does everyone find this surprising? My dislike of GF is well-documented on these forums.
And I've heard neither of those two songs.