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Yes, which is why casting someone without a director and most probably with no script at the moment, unless they've kept it very quiet, seems unlikely.
Or daily, lol... It's Idris, Hardy, ATJ, ATJ, ATJ, Cillian Murphy, Cillian Murphy, Brosnan say Cillian Murphy would make an excel-, oops, ATJ's been offered and will sign this week!!!
It's the Murdoch Family, what does one expect. If slaughtering puppies would make them more dough, they'll do it.
Combine that with what accounts for news nowadays, it's best to just block the noise out, methinks...
I think And Then there Were None's 30's aesthetic helped sell Aidan Turner because, although many fans point to the 60's as Bond's natural environment, Bond himself really has his roots further back than that, imo. He is a character most at home in the classic opulent styles of casinos and member's clubs, in drawing rooms swigging brandy out of a crystal tumbler, sucking on a cigarette while wearing formal wear, and I think when we see him in those futuristic Ken Adam sets or even in Q's laboratory being lectured on the latest gadget, we know he's out of his wheelhouse a little and in a hostile environment which he's not entirely comfortable with. I think it's that combination which keeps things interesting, a man with one foot in the past and one in a very dangerous future.
And before I get too far off the point:
You look at Turner in the picture where he's wearing formal wear smoking a cigarette, it's just so Bond because it is just a little old fashioned and formal. The same with the picture of him with a drink in his hand while wearing an expensive silk dressing gown. They even gave him a scene where he talks to the female lead whilst wearing just a towel, something we know is used for Bond auditions. The set-up is great, too - a bunch of people at an isolated (yet luxurious!) location struggling against the machinations of a master-mind - it would actually be a good second act of a Bond film (and in fact OHMSS kind of does does do that loosely).
I don't think it was a surprise that he got people talking about him being a good Bond candidate, but I do think that many actors in that role in that production would also have found themselves a Bond-favourite, it's just a very good showcase for a potential Bond.
Edit: Comic book artist Tim Sale's take on Bond:
Well the ATJ is Bond claim is all over social media, was on radio and TV news so clearly enough people have fallen for the click bait game. I'm assuming ATJ is not signed and this is The Sun and maybe Eon conspiring to promote the Bond franchise. I could be wrong in believing it's a marketing gimmick but we've gone from
February 2024
Barbara Broccol:
"There is nothing happening yet"
to
March 2024
Taylor-Johnson signing this week and filming beginning later this year at Pinewood:
This has become a major entertainment news item so if it's all click bait nonsense/bullsh** it's a bit distasteful or pointless. In his latest YouTube video, Bond fan Calvin Dyson said he is jaded by all these 'Bond actor is cast/will be cast' news items. I can understand why he feels that way.
Blame the media, not the actor, and not the producers.
There's no way that ATJ's agents are in cahoots with The Sun.
And EON isn't either.
This is just a rag, who historically says whatever they want, provided it delivers clicks.
Again, I think some are taking everything said at face value and believing every statement as concrete fact. Just cause Broccoli is put on the spot and makes an announcement doesn't mean it's fully truthful or factual. Hell, even ATJ's remarks about playing Bond could be seen as cheeky and deflecting if one wanted to put them under the microscope.
This is all over the internet. There are people that 24 hours ago never heard of Aaron Taylor-Johnson now know who he is! Is he Boris Johnson's son? That geezer from Kick Ass? Or was he on Strictly Come Dancing? Oh right. That bloke. He's okay. Not as good as Idris Elba.
🤪
It's helped raise his profile. Good for the ego, I guess.
I think it's been publicised enough that Bond producers use scenes from past Bond films to audition potentials that the general public perhaps don't see it as auditioning for a particular film so much as for a pre-existing character; I suspect most people don't consider that Eon needs to get a shell-company up and running to finance this particular movie.
Really, it's because there isn't much news at the moment. Maybe tomorrow the Batman director will hint that Bruce Wayne is bisexual in the next film, or Denis Villeneuve will announce he is going to direct Morbius 2 for Sony, and the news cycle will move on to the fresh meat.
Amen to that! Henry Cavill was born to be Bond. I am currently watching him in The Witcher season 3 and loving his performances.
The CR Bond auditions used an early version of what would become the train scene with Vesper.
He looks the part superficially, but I think there needs to be more to a Bond candidate. It may well just be me, but I have a hard picturing him playing a cinematic Bond even going from And Then There Were None. Just something about him doesn't seem seem quite right as Bond.
Yeah, I didn't mean I thought they used old scripted scenes exclusively, but I'm sure most non-fans don't really think about them needing to use new material.
To be honest I doubt many non-fans would even think about what scripts they use to audition with. I think most people would probably guess it's a scene from the new film or maybe a specially-written audition scene, but maybe not.
1) It's free publicity for the franchise. People get hyped about Bond and the next film.
2) Free publicity for the actor. It may help raise their profile and increase the opportunity of getting other roles.
3) Eon can look at the feedback and it gives them a broad idea if the 'rumoured' actor is liked/has significant potential by enough social media users.
I'm not saying Eon or Amazon will make a final casting decision based on social media reaction, ultimately the producers will judge on acting ability/screen presence/salary demands (any established actor will have a minimum salary threshold that must be met) but it's very likely they look at the online reaction and take it into consideration.
That's nothing! In 2005 we went from:
October 12th, 2005:
EON: "decision on James Bond #6 has not been made yet"
to
October 14th, 2005:
EON: "Daniel Craig is the new James Bond!"
But we all knew Bond 21 was set to go in October 2005 for a 2006 release. We have no idea if Bond 26 is set to go in 2024 for a 2025 release. It's not the same scenario although I accept Eon can deliberately hold back the information. 😉 It's possible the Sun is correct but it's also possible the Sun is not correct. Unfortunately this is the modern way of things with click bait social media reporting. Fake vs real news!
Is that weird though? Should they have announced it before they announced it? I don't know what date he signed on.
It was different in 2005 @Colonel_Venus :
They had a script.
A title for a film.
Active pre production.
A director.
Auditions.
And the media closed in on Craig’s mum, so, yeah….
2024:
No script.
No title.
No slate.
No director.
No auditions.
And no, the media hasn’t swarmed ATJ’s mum (as far as we know).
As I said, I’ve got some amazing Blockbuster Stores to sell. Please PM and we will discuss prices.
Obviously I can't say for sure, but all that seems a bit cumbersome and time consuming really. Not to mention quite pointless (why would it matter what fans think? They haven't seen a particular actor audition, and neither in this hypothetical scenario have the producers. A small chunk will even be quite vocal against certain actors no matter what - a sort of craignotbond type thing - which of course has absolutely no bearing on the actor's potential nor what a majority of viewers will think of the new Bond). They may as well just get a script sorted and then pick candidates/cast accordingly based what they want from that iteration of Bond. They've got more chance of casting a great Bond that way.
While I think EON might roughly know about social media reactions, it wouldn't surprise me if it's something they avoid. Same for what fans think. It seems to me that's a way of getting into problems.
As I said earlier, is there the slightest possibility that in 2024 all those boxes have been ticked - behind closed doors, and none of this info has been leaked yet (apart from ATJ and his mum)?
Whatever happened to Barbara playing coy, and a lot going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy to? :-?
I mean, has there ever been a Bond film that's been 'sprung' on the public without some sort of build up in very early stages? Stuff like announcements, press conferences, advertising etc.
You know what @Mendes4Lyfe , whatever point you’re trying to make, you’re right.
And if you want to believe this garbage, you’re right again.
Broccoli telling us there’s nothing going on, isn’t being coy— but we, as fans, aren’t entitled to know every detail of development.
But once development is along the ways and is entering preproduction status, the project gets too big and there’s only so much a project can keep mum about. Things will naturally get out in the world like: a title, a script, auditions, a release date….. please read your replies three times before posting… 🙄…
And @jetsetwilly , I just don’t think all of these things could be kept under wraps. Once a director is hired, they’re taken off the board of free agents. No more offers would be going out to him or her, and word would spread pretty fast, methinks.
As I said to @Mendes4Lyfe above: once a project gets to a certain level of development/preproduction, there’s only so much one can do to keep info secret. But over a two year period things would start to leak….
And then using common sense, most of last year saw all productions grind to a halt while getting ready for the strikes, then the strikes themselves which ended in late September for the writers and November of ‘23 for the actors. When was the script written? And when were actors auditioned? When were the set people hired? And when was the crew hired. Doing auditions for a project like this takes a few months to prep, and then months and months of auditions and recalls. It’s a mini production unto itself. Who was funding this? Where is the shell company?
And lastly, there’s one person very close to the party we are talking about who sent me a couple of short but sweet messages yesterday. And the messages were: nahhhhh and; utter bollocks.
This person has never lied to me before, and he has always been generous with tidbits that have always been proven to be correct (Craig’s return weeks and weeks before the Colbert announcement, Malek’s signing for casting that happened on or close to Oscar weekend, the return to Jamaica…)….
I didn’t believe this yesterday, and I never doubted my friend. Mix in a little common sense re: the strikes, and knowing what it takes to put auditions together, and, yeah, it doesn’t come even close to passing the sniff test.
EDIT: @jetsetwilly thats not to say ATJ won’t be Bond (I don’t think he will, but that’s my gut talking). I don’t know if he will. But if he DOES get the gig, it will be after a script is developed, a director, and a competitive audition process where each actor and his performances will be compared against the contenders. The best will win the role.
There’s a process, and it hasn’t yet been fulfilled.
@talos7 i don’t think ATJ’s ppl or EoN would ever get into bed with the likes of The Sun. Saying that, once the garbage gets trotted out, what’s the point in responding. It’s free publicity for all involved:
It’s good for The Sun.
It’s good for ATJ and his agents.
It’s good for ATJ’s upcoming releases.
It’s good that EoN’s IP is being so passionately discussed.
There’s no value in denial (unless the accusations are of a sordid nature).
Their MO is to believe in their own judgement though; them checking to see if a choice would go down well on social media isn't something they've done before. And if against the odds they did do it, what didn't they learn from the last time ATJ was announced as Bond in the tabloids back at the end of '22 that they needed to know now?
Well maybe someone at Eon takes a look online to get an idea what people are posting. Maybe Broccoli and Wilson are told of some of the comments. That sort of thing. I don't think Broccoli and Wilson would spend hours searching through X or Facebook or here at Mi6, but maybe an employee at Eon gives them an update on recent social media comments.
Now, I don’t think it will dictate who they select . In the end they will choose the person most suited to tell the story that they want to tell.
Well, presumably they have publicists. It's not just the intern or an assistant trawling through the internet.
Honestly though, probably both those jobs don't involve such a task, at least not directly. I'm not really sure what Wilson or Broccoli would gain by being told some of the comments people are making online. It most likely wouldn't help them in any way whatsoever. Like I said they may well even avoid engaging with a lot of this stuff.