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  • CrabKeyCrabKey
    Posts: 2,033
    ProfJoeButcher wrote: »
    Skyfall for the Bondie, and No Time to Die for the Klebbie.
    the use of the word "just" to fill in a syllable in the melody. Very very lazy: "there's just no time to die". So lazy.

    When proofing my own writing I do a word find for just. Very easy to use and most often unnecessary. Despite my preference for harder, more bombastic theme songs, I do like NTTD, even if the lyrics lack maturity, but of course B.E. is quite young. (Nonetheless, she won an Oscar. I certainly don't deny her talent.)
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,605
    Crazy how the Craig songs got slower and less bombastic as the films went on
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,197
    Last_Rat_Standing wrote: »
    Crazy how the Craig songs got slower and less bombastic as the films went on

    It really is. Not what one would have expected from a hard-edged Bond.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,091
    The only one of those that I kind of like (though nowhere close to my top 5 of the series) is YKMN...so that's the Bondie pick. I don't care for any of the others, but since AWTD has actually somewhat grown on me, I'd choose WOTW for the bottom end. The rest is mediocrity.
  • BT3366BT3366
    edited April 8 Posts: 1,927
    You Know My Name all the way. A great way to usher in the new era. AWTD is my second choice. I don't like Keys' part of it, but it's different and not cliched like the three that follow it, which seem safe by going the ballad route and all kind of resemble each other.

    Just noticed I didn't include a Klebbie nomination. I'm going against the grain and voting for Skyfall. I don't care about the awards it won. I couldn't stand Adele before and even this doesn't help. The backup singers repeating the lyrics is annoying and the rhymes in the lyrics are a stretch.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    edited April 7 Posts: 2,870
    Bondie: You Know My Name. Per @BT3366, this song was a great way to usher in the Craig era and I still get the chills watching the CR tittle sequence. Perfect. And I may be alone on this, but instead of "We Have All the Time In the World", I think this should also have been the closing credit theme for NTTD.

    Klebbie: The Writings On the Wall. Gets the disappointing (for me) SP off on the wrong foot - after a fairly good pre-title sequence.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited April 8 Posts: 4,423
    Bondie YKMN - I think the young ' 'uns say "banging". What a tune. Breaths new life into the Bond series

    Kleebie TWOTW - great instrumental track, but as soon as Smith opens their mouth and begins their high pitched caterwaulling..
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited April 8 Posts: 4,325
    Best - You Know My Name. It's a toss up between this and SF for me, and I'd say both are memorable and even classic Bond tunes. There's so much energy in this song and harder edged rock tunes are always quite refreshing when they pop up in Bond history. Great stuff.

    Worst - No Time To Die. People say this song is atmospheric. For the life of me I can't understand why. This is simply boring and feels a bit half-baked. I honestly cannot for the life of me remember how this tune goes without having to think hard about it. I quite like Billie Eilish too so it's such a disappointment. I actually like the lyrics in isolation as well. But yeah, I find this a bit of a dud of a song.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 5,508
    Time for me to flap my wings and come to the stage. The Bondie for best theme song of the Daniel Craig era is...You Know My Name from Casino Royale accepting the award is David Arnold.

    The academy is having trouble coming up with a Klebbie winner and we have a three way tie.

    So lets hold a tie breaker, please vote for the worst song of the Daniel Craig era and choose from:
    • Another Way to Die from Quantum of Solace
    • The Writing is On the Wall from Spectre
    • No Time to Die from No Time to Die

    All three songs are tied with 5 votes apiece. Time to vote for the song that you think deserves the kick in the shins.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,197
    No Time To Die.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,013
    I'll help with this and pick the obvious "winner" in my eyes, and that's the Sam Smith track. Dreadful stuff.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    Posts: 4,325
    NTTD. Smith's voice is terrible in TWOTW but the arrangements are ok. For better or for worse it's a memorable Bond song that has an impact... unlike NTTD for me.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,663
    Skyfall for Bondie for me
    Writing's on the Wall gets my Klebbie vote.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
    Posts: 1,714
    NTTD
  • Reflsin2bourbonsReflsin2bourbons
    Posts: 269
    Another Way to Die
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,511
    Writing's on the Wall for klebbie
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 7,632
    Yeh, I agree, the music on WOTTW is lovely, the singing not so much, so I will go with NTTD which is rather forgettable
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    Posts: 2,164
    AWTD
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'll help with this and pick the obvious "winner" in my eyes, and that's the Sam Smith track. Dreadful stuff.

    I'll have what he's having.
  • GerardGerard
    Posts: 6,027
    AWTD for me.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited April 8 Posts: 9,511
    I didn’t realize AWTD and NTTD were so disliked. I thought for sure the Wailing’s On The Wall would be hands down the Klebbie winner!…

    😂 happy to see this, but at the same time, I can’t believe that Sam Smith’s is actually rated higher than some of the other themes…

    I’m so used to the hatred for TWOTW in my house. My wife will literally plug her ears and leave the room (not that it plays here much, but when I watch Spectre, I will sit through the entirety of this melodramatic crooning . I can’t fast forward any of the theme songs when I sit down and watch these films. I want the full experience of each, from start to finish…)…

    (Although I have experimented with fast forwarding the C scenes to see how it plays out and can safely say: remove him and the film improves a great deal.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,013
    I knew most seemed to loathe AWTD (despite it being one of my favorites - oops), but I had no clue NTTD was so disliked either. It's the slightest of improvements on its predecessor but I really don't care for it either. It's one of the only two I actively don't go out of my way to listen to or hear if it's not playing during the title sequence.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,236
    Writing's On The Wall.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited April 8 Posts: 7,226
    I'll defend many elements of SP, but WOTW I'd say is the least convincing of the Craig title songs.

    I quite like AWTD and NTTD to be honest.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,091
    I stick with my sentiment that WOTW is the worst of the five. Not by far, but barely the worst is bad enough. I hated AWTD when I first saw a video before QOS was released, but once I heard it in context I kind of accepted it. SF suffers for me due to my impression that Adele is really not-so-great a singer who is vastly overrated. And NTTD suffers for me due to my impression that Billie Eilish is really not-so-great a singer who is vastly overrated...wait! Am I repeating myself? :-) But Sam Smith's falsetto dirge definitely takes the cake, or rather the turd.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
    Posts: 2,870
    WOTW. Easily.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited April 8 Posts: 2,197
    The Writing's On The Wall has a great opening than No Time To Die and it's also more Bondianly bombastic. One can envisage The Writing's On The Wall's opening seconds accompanying the gunbarrel sequence. Same as Another Way To Die, but not No Time To Die. I'm still surprised Hans Zimmer is associated with the most quiet-sounding Bond theme.
  • Reflsin2bourbonsReflsin2bourbons
    Posts: 269
    peter wrote: »
    I didn’t realize AWTD and NTTD were so disliked. I thought for sure the Wailing’s On The Wall would be hands down the Klebbie winner!…

    😂 happy to see this, but at the same time, I can’t believe that Sam Smith’s is actually rated higher than some of the other themes…

    I’m so used to the hatred for TWOTW in my house. My wife will literally plug her ears and leave the room (not that it plays here much, but when I watch Spectre, I will sit through the entirety of this melodramatic crooning . I can’t fast forward any of the theme songs when I sit down and watch these films. I want the full experience of each, from start to finish…)…

    (Although I have experimented with fast forwarding the C scenes to see how it plays out and can safely say: remove him and the film a great deal.

    WOTW is perfectly fine in my eyes, alright musically throughout the whole song. I think it's better than The Man With The Golden Gun, and I have only a few issues with that song. Most criticism is directed at vocals, which I can understand in some other Sam Smith songs but here it's alright. NTTD is perfectly fine, I think it just gets hate because it's the third low-energy Bond song in a row, but it's perfectly fine.

    Another Way to Die is average until the overprocessed vocals enter and the voices of both singers clash throughout the chorus and something feels off: like when both singers sing "Ohhh" for a long period.

    WOTW could by vocally jarring by AWTD sounds out of tune to me
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,800
    No Time To Die, not just as a Bond theme but a music in general, it's boring.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    edited April 9 Posts: 4,492
    AWTD for the klebbie. I always thought that Keys would be great for a Bond song but this combo is odd.
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