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  • MalloryMallory
    Posts: 2,165
    Junglist_1985 wrote: »
    Hopefully they tightened up the script as I felt DR was a bit convoluted and disjointed.

    Yep, as much as I like DR, it does feel like it is writing itself as it goes...joys of filming without a well fleshed out script. There are several points in the film where the characters just stop and do an info dump to set the next 20 mins up.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 14 Posts: 16,434
    It does. McQ's way of making these is to shoot the action scenes then write some cheaper scenes on interior sets where the characters explain what's going on to join the dots, and previously that has felt seamless (Rogue Nation for example I know was made like that, but it still feels like a perfectly planned out story to me), but to me this time it felt really obvious. Especially the attempts to amp up the drama with all the 'you won't sacrifice anyone, Ethan' stuff, which was ground already covered in Fallout, and now it's even in the trailer for this one; which to me kind of feels a bit empty and almost cynical and like they've run out of ideas.
  • patbpatb
    edited November 14 Posts: 4,617
    McQ was very high profile a few years ago and did some very interesting podcasts and interviews re the way he constructed a script. It raised many eyebrows within script writing circles. But, after the relative failure of DR, he has gone very quiet. I really hope he has learned some lessons and has taken time to work on a really great script with a tight story rather than "wing it" with fingers crossed.
    @mtm I agree with your post. But, it's not really possible to make a proper judgement on a teaser. It's perfecty possible that the next movie has the best story of the whole series. But (as we saw with NTTD) it makes the job even harder when you have open story lines that need to be wrapped up and even harder if you decide to include references to previous movies (I have a horrible vision of Hunt being confronted by posters on the wall of all his previous villains), plus, when the stakes are "every soul on the planet" , it looks a little desperate to me. You don't have to have a hero who saves the species to make a compelling story (as we saw in SF) I will say it again, Hunt dealing with the loss of Ilsa and a personal revenge motivation, though not original, is a better footing for a tight story than what I fear is coming. DR could have been the OHMSS of the series but, this time, with a proper revenge that did justice to the lost character. Some story themes never grow old
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 14 Posts: 16,434
    patb wrote: »
    @mtm I agree with your post. But, it's not really possible to make a proper judgement on a teaser. It's perfecty possible that the next movie has the best story of the whole series.

    Yeah I'm certainly hoping so, no judgements yet.

    Regarding the past references, McQ has also often said that he will and has ditched any fan service straight away if it gets just slightly in the way of the story (I think Briggs, the TV character, was going to appear in an earlier film but the story went in a different direction), so I do have faith there that the references won't be awkward.
  • patbpatb
    Posts: 4,617
    "I want him manning a radar tower in Alaska by the end of the day; just mail him his clothes." "Of all the radar towers in all of the World, he walks into mine." When you start fitting in these remarkable co-incidences, it's not a good sign IMHO
  • weboffearweboffear Scotland
    Posts: 52
    i would be cautious judging the film on the trailer , McQ admitted after the fact that the trailer for Fallout had scenes that were shot for the trailer and only the trailer
  • ZekidkZekidk
    Posts: 3,276
    MI:7 had a weak plot and was mostly a Tom Cruise stunt reel. The trailer sadly looks more of the same.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    edited November 17 Posts: 1,034
    I've listened to enough McQ interviews over the past few years to be pretty convinced that FR was really the story they've been chasing. DR was more about setting up the story and putting the pieces into place. Of course, I could be wrong as DR should've been edited down and at least 20 mins shorter.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    Posts: 4,522
    Mabey Kathryn Bigelow should do next movie(s).

    I not really liked The Hurt Locker and also not get in to K19, but i watched Point Break last weak and i like it. It has low pacing and missing more drama. But i think it was oke and see somebody like Patrick Swazy was refreshing. Some things like action, drama and cinematography are inproved later. Like Speed, Bad Boys, Goldeneye or series like Swatt. Some parts remember me of Miami Vice, Baywatch other 80's movies and Keanu Reeves feels a bit of Speed (who is from 3 years later) prequel. Point Break is possible reasen why Fox ask him back. I have understand Point Break is official Fox movie and there even consider a sequel and look like there deside to make Speed insteed. Same actor and same composer. Some things remember me other later and earlier movies. One later movie is Die Another Day who is also Fox movie (with MGM). Waves looking filmt at same location and one other chacters look like on stunt surfer from DAD whyle it is not him. Another stunt remember me of simalar scene in Moonraker. Point Break is from same year / produced by directer as Terminator 2. Also Nolan possible get inspiration from this movie for The Dark Knight 17 years later.

    For a moment i thought how Goldeneye have look like with Kathryn Bigelow as directer or Point Break have look liked with Jan De Bont or Martin Campbell.

    Kathryn Bigelow direct Mi9 / Mi10 and Jeremy Renner return as new lead. There is a moment in new trailer where two guy's shaking hands and i wonder mabey one of them is Jeremy Renner.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,221
    Jeremy Renner Is a fine actor but I don’t see him having what it would take to take the reins of a franchise like MI.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,212
    talos7 wrote: »
    Jeremy Renner Is a fine actor but I don’t see him having what it would take to take the reins of a franchise like MI.

    Agreed, I recall prior to Ghost Protocol some suggested Renner was being brought in to take over from Tom... the rest is history.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,434
    M_Balje wrote: »
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    Kathryn Bigelow direct Mi9 / Mi10 and Jeremy Renner return as new lead. There is a moment in new trailer where two guy's shaking hands and i wonder mabey one of them is Jeremy Renner.

    You can tell the one in the black jacket isn't Renner as he has very recognisable fingers(!)
    Assuming the leather jacket is Ethan.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,221
    Whether it’s accurate or not, I’ve red that Tom Cruise sees Top Gun: Maverick co star Glen Powell as a potential successor. Powell has been on a roll but still has to prove that he can carry a big film. “ Running Man” will be an important film for him; if it is a success and he proves that he’s got the right stuff, I can see him joining the MI franchise as it’s lead .
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Powell is likeable though can be a bit goofy, I saw him in numerous projects prior to Top Gun: Maverick.

    The problem with anyone taking over from Tom is they are not just attempting to lead a film/series they are replacing one of Hollywood's greatest stuntmen.

    MI films have many great elements though the biggest hook for me is Tom is doing most of this for real.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,142
    This has likely been discussed and noticed already.

    On a recent viewing of MI:RN when Huntley and Brandt arrive at the stately home to stop Ethan Hunt from intercepting the British Prime Minister you can see a silver Aston Martin DB6 in the background.
    Obviously a nod to Bond, and also the same shooting location as SP at Blenheim Palace.

    Can’t believe I’d never noticed it.bgdqhb3tgc4b.jpeg
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,212
    Benny wrote: »
    This has likely been discussed and noticed already.

    On a recent viewing of MI:RN when Huntley and Brandt arrive at the stately home to stop Ethan Hunt from intercepting the British Prime Minister you can see a silver Aston Martin DB6 in the background.
    Obviously a nod to Bond, and also the same shooting location as SP at Blenheim Palace.

    Can’t believe I’d never noticed it.bgdqhb3tgc4b.jpeg

    Good spot, I have not noticed that subtle reference before, I like the idea that that Bond and IMF inhabit the same universe.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    Posts: 1,034
    The M:I films are quite rich with homages, particular in the spy/espionage genre. RN to me is by far the most Bondian of the mission films.
  • LibrarianLibrarian
    Posts: 312
    M_Balje wrote: »
    Mabey Kathryn Bigelow should do next movie(s).

    Kathryn Bigelow direct Mi9 / Mi10 and Jeremy Renner return as new lead. There is a moment in new trailer where two guy's shaking hands and i wonder mabey one of them is Jeremy Renner.
    I thought it was Benji.
    But I also liked William Brandt played by Jeremy Renner and I think Mission: Impossible series lost a lot after abandoning his character.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited November 27 Posts: 4,522
    Junglist_1985 wrote: »
    The M:I films are quite rich with homages, particular in the spy/espionage genre. RN to me is by far the most Bondian of the mission films.

    That credit go to 7th movie..

  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    Posts: 1,655
    Spy films have similar scenes! Who could have guessed.
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