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  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    After putting LOTR into three magnificent movies (the same number as the original LOTR books) they shouldn't have turned The Hobbit (which is only a single book half as long as each of the LOTR volumes) into three movies as well. That being said, I think The Hobbit trilogy is not bad at all. Just not magnificent in any way, either.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,518
    I liked The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug that was the best of the trilogy, and to be fair The Rings of Power is so poor it elevates The Hobbit trilogy (It should have been two movies not three).
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    I've resisted any LOTR-related films since I was forced to read "The Hobbit" in high school. A friend said you'll hate this and throw it across the room and it was pretty close to that, which hasn't encouraged me to watch any of the films. Some people have said it's nothing but 3 hours of walking, battling, more walking, more battling and so on.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited November 2024 Posts: 7,603
    Casino Royale 67

    Never been able to sit through the whole thing. I actually think I may have once, but was so bewildered by what was happening, I don't know if I watched a full, real movie. Also never finished Never Say Never Again, which I do want to watch.
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    After putting LOTR into three magnificent movies (the same number as the original LOTR books) they shouldn't have turned The Hobbit (which is only a single book half as long as each of the LOTR volumes) into three movies as well. That being said, I think The Hobbit trilogy is not bad at all. Just not magnificent in any way, either.

    Pretty accurately represents my opinions as well. I have to say I like the Hobbit trilogy more than most I think.

    I was never a fan of the books or anything, but the LOTR trilogy is definitely one of the best trilogies in cinema.
  • HasanDaferHasanDafer Baghdad, Iraq
    Posts: 65
    Chinatown

    Chinatown is a masterpiece a brilliant Neo Noir, one of my favorite films.
    HasanDafer wrote: »
    I have never watched The Lord of the Rings series

    If you get round to watching The Lord of the Rings trilogy you will be in for a treat, some of the best films ever made.
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    HasanDafer wrote: »
    I have never watched The Lord of the Rings series

    I absolutely adore the original Peter Jackson trilogy, with especially Fellowship standing out, Sean Bean's Boromir I think is the best character of the trilogy.

    The Hobbit trilogy, unfortunately, bores me slightly. Especially the last one is a quest in itself to sit through.

    The Rings of Power I should probably include here too, even though it's technically just a tv series, felt like fan fiction to me.

    So my advice is to just check out the original trilogy.

    Will check the original film series then :)
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    The Matrix. Well, not true. I watched like the last five or ten minutes back in 1999 at the uni's JCR. And I thought I had seen enough.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,367
    I can't tell you how often I've seen The Matrix, its sequels, and the animated feature. I'm a huge fan of Japanese anime such as Ghost In The Shell, Akira and Appleseed; it's only fair to say that The Matrix hit a sweet spot in more ways than one. I truly love that film and, in fact, the entire series.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited January 10 Posts: 17,886
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I can't tell you how often I've seen The Matrix, its sequels, and the animated feature. I'm a huge fan of Japanese anime such as Ghost In The Shell, Akira and Appleseed; it's only fair to say that The Matrix hit a sweet spot in more ways than one. I truly love that film and, in fact, the entire series.

    Even the last one (Matrix: Resurrections)? That movie made me love ALL the movies. Anime? Ghost In The Shell Stand Alone Complex, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, Nausicaa In The Valley Of The Wind, Gargantia, Ergo Proxy, Space Battleship Yamato.... and more, too many to list...
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    There are general entertainment films, which range from bad to very entertaining films. Classic films which are really fine films. And then there are the greatest films ever made.

    That last category is frequently tough, because it's often not clear why a film, especially an old one, is considered great or the greatest. Case in point: Citizen Kane.

    For that one you need to begin with history and context. For someone planning to see Citizen Kane for the first time, I recommend seeing the documentary The Battle over Citizen Kane first. These days it's often a companion disc with the film. An excellent documentary that sheds light on the subject. Also worth reading about the techniques pioneered in that film.
  • edited January 12 Posts: 4,462
    CrabKey wrote: »
    There are general entertainment films, which range from bad to very entertaining films. Classic films which are really fine films. And then there are the greatest films ever made.

    That last category is frequently tough, because it's often not clear why a film, especially an old one, is considered great or the greatest. Case in point: Citizen Kane.

    For that one you need to begin with history and context. For someone planning to see Citizen Kane for the first time, I recommend seeing the documentary The Battle over Citizen Kane first. These days it's often a companion disc with the film. An excellent documentary that sheds light on the subject. Also worth reading about the techniques pioneered in that film.

    CK's a great film in the sense everyone leading the main departments were accomplished enough, as well as willing to do something really unique at their particular stages of their careers - ie. a young Welles on directing which was obviously his major first film project after his experimental theatre/radio work, Gregg Toland as cinematographer, the great Robert Wise as editor, and of course Bernard Herrmann on music and Mankiewicz co-writing. That's not even mentioning the various other contributors. Kane's one of those films that to me shows how collaborative film truly is. Take one of those people out of the equation and it's not the same film.

    Anyway, keeping it with the theme of the thread (although I can't say I'm ashamed to say I haven't seen these) I've never watched Welles' Shakespeare adaptations apart from Chimes at Midnight. Personally, I'd say Touch of Evil is my favourite Welles film (the later edited version that is). I actually like The Stranger too in a sort of B Movie 50s way.
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    What is common place now was daring and pioneering back in the day. There is so much going on in this film that it requires numerous viewings. It's one of my favorites. It's so audacious.
  • Aliens
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    Aliens

    One of my highlights at the cinema, when it was released! The audience were buzzing with excitement! I think I still prefer Ridley Scotts original! But this was a fantastic cinematic experience!
  • edited January 12 Posts: 390
    James Cameron had a bad experience making Aliens because the UK crew had fixed tea breaks. Cameron, known for getting his own way, was peeved filming had to stop for a nice cup of British tea. 🍵 I think that's why he's never made another film in the UK.
    “The culture shock didn’t happen for us on the first film it happened for us on Aliens when we went to England and they had a whole.. you know it was much more of a suit and tie thing and the director just kind of sat back and let everybody do their jobs.

    “And I think the English crew were unsettled to say the least, I think they were insulted cause they thought I believed that they didn’t know their jobs and could help them, which wasn’t it at all, it was just a sort of ‘muck in and get it done’ kind of mentality. Plus they were, by the way, slow as shit so, you know, I’d speed ’em up a little bit.”

    The Pinewood crew were lazy, insolent and arrogant. There were a few bright lights amongst the younger art department people, but for the most part, we despised them and they despised us.”

    Cameron thought the crew were lazy and resented union-mandated breaks.

    The crew would stop work every Friday afternoon for a lottery draw where the winner would take home a prize of about £400. One of the crew running the lottery came up to Cameron with the tin and said, “do you wanna put anything in for the draw, Jim?” Cameron allegedly shouted at him, “F*** the draw!!”.

    One anecdote even has Cameron pushing over the tea trolley in frustration on one particularly trying day.

    “This has been a long and difficult shoot, fraught by many problems. But the one thing that kept me going, through it all, was the certain knowledge that one day I would drive out the gate of Pinewood and never come back, and that you sorry bastards would still be here.”

    It's possible James Cameron could have been a good choice for Bond director. He'd probably clash with Cubby or Barbara Broccoli though. I doubt they'd tolerate him being abusive on set.
  • edited January 12 Posts: 4,462
    CrabKey wrote: »
    What is common place now was daring and pioneering back in the day. There is so much going on in this film that it requires numerous viewings. It's one of my favorites. It's so audacious.

    CK's a film I've come across numerous times. It's very interesting and audacious (and especially was when it was made).

    Welles is a fascinating - and actually kind of tragic - director. He was so young and got such a good opportunity early on (again, with all the different and wonderful creatives working with him to make this film). Maybe even too early on. I feel sometimes CK's reputation, this idea that he never made anything better (much of which came in hindsight), comes at the expense of his later stuff, which is unfortunate (his filmography as a director is actually really cool - The Stranger is such an entertaining little 50s B movie thriller, and Touch of Evil is genuinely one of the great Film Noirs for me. F For Fake is pretty great too). He unfortunately didn't manage to finish a lot of his later work, or in the case of something like Magnificent Ambersons and the first edits of Touch of Evil it was taken from him, which is sad. Still, what he did accomplish was really interesting, and sometimes whacky (ie. The Trial).
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    Unless Cameron made the film by himself, it seems those sorry bastards weren't that sorry after all.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Personally, I'd say Touch of Evil is my favourite Welles film (the later edited version that is).
    Oh yeah, it's an amazing film edited the way Welles intended. It was captivating before that too.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,760
    bondywondy wrote: »
    James Cameron had a bad experience making Aliens because the UK crew had fixed tea breaks. Cameron, known for getting his own way, was peeved filming had to stop for a nice cup of British tea. 🍵 I think that's why he's never made another film in the UK.
    “The culture shock didn’t happen for us on the first film it happened for us on Aliens when we went to England and they had a whole.. you know it was much more of a suit and tie thing and the director just kind of sat back and let everybody do their jobs.

    “And I think the English crew were unsettled to say the least, I think they were insulted cause they thought I believed that they didn’t know their jobs and could help them, which wasn’t it at all, it was just a sort of ‘muck in and get it done’ kind of mentality. Plus they were, by the way, slow as shit so, you know, I’d speed ’em up a little bit.”

    The Pinewood crew were lazy, insolent and arrogant. There were a few bright lights amongst the younger art department people, but for the most part, we despised them and they despised us.”

    Cameron thought the crew were lazy and resented union-mandated breaks.

    The crew would stop work every Friday afternoon for a lottery draw where the winner would take home a prize of about £400. One of the crew running the lottery came up to Cameron with the tin and said, “do you wanna put anything in for the draw, Jim?” Cameron allegedly shouted at him, “F*** the draw!!”.

    One anecdote even has Cameron pushing over the tea trolley in frustration on one particularly trying day.

    “This has been a long and difficult shoot, fraught by many problems. But the one thing that kept me going, through it all, was the certain knowledge that one day I would drive out the gate of Pinewood and never come back, and that you sorry bastards would still be here.”

    It's possible James Cameron could have been a good choice for Bond director. He'd probably clash with Cubby or Barbara Broccoli though. I doubt they'd tolerate him being abusive on set.
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Unless Cameron made the film by himself, it seems those sorry bastards weren't that sorry after all.

    James Cameron once called the James Bond movies "rotten to the core." He needs to take a good LONG look in a mirror before he calls ANYTHING "rotten to the core." Plus, he's a horrible story writer. All the stories in his movies have been told, and told better. If Titanic or Avatar flopped, he'd be the modern day Michael Cimino. He should be a bit more grateful, and talk down to people less. He always comes off as "me me me." So, I'm NOT ashamed to say that I haven't seen Aliens, The Abyss or Avatar 2. When I hear good stories about his treatment of people maybe I'll consider watching them. For now, there are better movies by nicer people that deserve to be seen by me.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited January 13 Posts: 3,199
    Not only did Cameron say that the Bond films were 'rotten at their core', he also said that Bond himself was 'a complete scumbag, he really is.' Probably not a good fit for EON then, tbf.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,367
    Venutius wrote: »
    Not only did Cameron say that the Bond films were 'rotten at their core', he also said that Bond himself was 'a complete scumbag, he really is.' Probably not a good fit for EON then, tbf.

    I'm not sure that what Arnold's character put his wife through in True Lies makes him any less of a complete scumbag. ;-)
  • Posts: 15,329
    007HallY wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    What is common place now was daring and pioneering back in the day. There is so much going on in this film that it requires numerous viewings. It's one of my favorites. It's so audacious.

    CK's a film I've come across numerous times. It's very interesting and audacious (and especially was when it was made).

    Welles is a fascinating - and actually kind of tragic - director. He was so young and got such a good opportunity early on (again, with all the different and wonderful creatives working with him to make this film). Maybe even too early on. I feel sometimes CK's reputation, this idea that he never made anything better (much of which came in hindsight), comes at the expense of his later stuff, which is unfortunate (his filmography as a director is actually really cool - The Stranger is such an entertaining little 50s B movie thriller, and Touch of Evil is genuinely one of the great Film Noirs for me. F For Fake is pretty great too). He unfortunately didn't manage to finish a lot of his later work, or in the case of something like Magnificent Ambersons and the first edits of Touch of Evil it was taken from him, which is sad. Still, what he did accomplish was really interesting, and sometimes whacky (ie. The Trial).

    Done in his darker times, I still love these adverts:
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,174
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Venutius wrote: »
    Not only did Cameron say that the Bond films were 'rotten at their core', he also said that Bond himself was 'a complete scumbag, he really is.' Probably not a good fit for EON then, tbf.

    I'm not sure that what Arnold's character put his wife through in True Lies makes him any less of a complete scumbag. ;-)

    Too right! God i hate that scene! And it criminally uses a song from John Hiatt- one of my favourite artists!!!
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