Superman: The Man of Tomorrow

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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Alan Tudyk was excellent in I Robot and Rogue One to name a few voice acting roles, i could not think of a better choice for Brainiac.

    Thank you. I think we might be getting Bizarro as well as Lex.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Alan Tudyk was excellent in I Robot and Rogue One to name a few voice acting roles, i could not think of a better choice for Brainiac.

    Thank you. I think we might be getting Bizarro as well as Lex.

    I knew about the Bizarro rumor, I heard months ago
    Lex's clone Ultra Man will become Bizarro and rumored to be played by Chris Reeves son (I think in the Ultra Man persona).
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Alan Tudyk was excellent in I Robot and Rogue One to name a few voice acting roles, i could not think of a better choice for Brainiac.

    Thank you. I think we might be getting Bizarro as well as Lex.

    I knew about the Bizarro rumor, I heard months ago
    Lex's clone Ultra Man will become Bizarro and rumored to be played by Chris Reeves son (I think in the Ultra Man persona).

    Thanks, I don’t think I heard that one.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Alan Tudyk was excellent in I Robot and Rogue One to name a few voice acting roles, i could not think of a better choice for Brainiac.

    Thank you. I think we might be getting Bizarro as well as Lex.

    I knew about the Bizarro rumor, I heard months ago
    Lex's clone Ultra Man will become Bizarro and rumored to be played by Chris Reeves son (I think in the Ultra Man persona).

    Thanks, I don’t think I heard that one.
    I say only Ultra Man because the rumored Lex clone has the U emblem on his chest, it may not be Ultra Man.
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    SUPER/MAN:THE CHRISTOPHER REEVE STORY | Film Threat Review
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    Like many major moments in history, I remember vividly where I was when I heard about Christopher Reeves accident.
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    This is when you should be the most worried when it comes to Kal.
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    I heard yesterday the first trailer for Gunn's Superman will be shown to the press on 9th December, we should be able to see it not long after, i am hoping the same day lol.
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    Superman vs Doomsday [Part 2] | The Death of Superman

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    Superman II - (Donner Cut) - Superman destroys Fortress of Solitude

    Great scene, should not have been cut.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Superman II - (Donner Cut) - Superman destroys Fortress of Solitude

    Great scene, should not have been cut.

    Absolutely. It makes me tear up every time.
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    @chrisisall nothing will every be better.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Superman II - (Donner Cut) - Superman destroys Fortress of Solitude

    Great scene, should not have been cut.

    Absolutely. It makes me tear up every time.

    @chrisisall nothing will every be better.

    As bad as Richard Donner's firing was, losing Marlon Brando as Jor-El in Superman 2 was just as bad. Not that Susannah York was bad in any way, but you know that more care went into the emotional messages with Donner. And even Brando was just doing it for the paycheck, he is still great to watch. In particular in the first Fortress of Solitude scene.



    I hope my Superman and Supergirl screenplays can be this great. If they get made of course! You'll see many Superman/Girl characters that haven't been done yet. In particular villains!
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Superman II - (Donner Cut) - Superman destroys Fortress of Solitude

    Great scene, should not have been cut.

    Absolutely. It makes me tear up every time.

    @chrisisall nothing will every be better.

    As bad as Richard Donner's firing was, losing Marlon Brando as Jor-El in Superman 2 was just as bad. Not that Susannah York was bad in any way, but you know that more care went into the emotional messages with Donner. And even Brando was just doing it for the paycheck, he is still great to watch. In particular in the first Fortress of Solitude scene.



    I hope my Superman and Supergirl screenplays can be this great. If they get made of course! You'll see many Superman/Girl characters that haven't been done yet. In particular villains!

    There is so much potential with live axtion Superman its unreal.

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  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I actually made my own hybrid cut of SUPERMAN II, basically using the best elements of both versions of the film. As great as the Donner cut is for bringing back so much footage, I do think they cut out too much of the Lester footage to the detriment of the story. It also just doesn’t work as a proper sequel to the first film, primarily because it’s a theoretical sequel to a version of the first film that doesn’t even exist.

    I would have loved if Donner actually got to finish II back in 1980, and we could see what he would have come up with as far as a proper ending goes because there’s no way they would have stuck with Superman turning back time a second time.
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    I actually made my own hybrid cut of SUPERMAN II, basically using the best elements of both versions of the film. As great as the Donner cut is for bringing back so much footage, I do think they cut out too much of the Lester footage to the detriment of the story. It also just doesn’t work as a proper sequel to the first film, primarily because it’s a theoretical sequel to a version of the first film that doesn’t even exist.

    I would have loved if Donner actually got to finish II back in 1980, and we could see what he would have come up with as far as a proper ending goes because there’s no way they would have stuck with Superman turning back time a second time.

    Agreed- I think the ideal version of the film is 2/3rds Donner 1/3rd Lester.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    itsraw wrote: »
    I actually made my own hybrid cut of SUPERMAN II, basically using the best elements of both versions of the film. As great as the Donner cut is for bringing back so much footage, I do think they cut out too much of the Lester footage to the detriment of the story. It also just doesn’t work as a proper sequel to the first film, primarily because it’s a theoretical sequel to a version of the first film that doesn’t even exist.

    I would have loved if Donner actually got to finish II back in 1980, and we could see what he would have come up with as far as a proper ending goes because there’s no way they would have stuck with Superman turning back time a second time.

    Agreed- I think the ideal version of the film is 2/3rds Donner 1/3rd Lester.

    I agree with you both. I'm just curious as to what Donner had in mind for a third movie under his leadership. I know Ilya Salkind wrote a treatment with Supergirl, Brainiac and Mr. Mxyzptlk. There was a lot of unfaithfulness to the comic (Supergirl being raised by Brainiac, her marrying either Brainiac or Superman). It's climax almost actually predicted Avengers Endgame in some ways! We did almost get Bizarro Superman, like in our Superman 3. It sounds like Donner wanted Brainiac for sure, with Tom Mankiewicz directing it. Apart of me sees Tanya Roberts as Supergirl. Alas, we got the feces that is our timeline's version of Superman 3.

    I actually think there's a lot of potential in Superman 4. I think with more care, money, and added footage, it could actually be a decent movie. Some of the story ideas are great, actually.

    As for a Superman Returns sequel, it sounds like Brainiac would have been the villain. With more action, with the kryptonite island as a plot device. Jason would have been Superman's son, with Brainiac attacking him. Mixed opinions on it, but it could make a great one-off graphic novel one day. Provided that Bryan Singer doesn't write it.

    I wish sometimes that Superman Lives would have been made, by Tim Burton. At least we could have had Christopher Walken as Brainiac.

    I'm happy that Superman Flyby wasn't made. If JJ Abrams played it too safe with Star Trek and Star Wars, Superman Flyby was WAY too different, from the myths of Superman. There's no middle ground with creative risks with JJ Abrams, lol.

    As for a Man of Steel sequel, I just wouldn't want Zack Snyder to direct. As much as I liked MOS, there's only so much Zack Snyder that many can take. I'm glad he didn't mess up Metallo as he did with Doomsday. He kept saying the real Doomsday was out there, when he should just have used him in BVS! Instead of having Zod be more or less a villain again!

    I have a couple of Superman screenplays partly written. New characters and new villains from the comics! You will see and learn some things about the characters that you haven't before!

    Hopefully by this time next week, we will finally see a trailer for Superman 2025!
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I have a couple of Superman screenplays partly written. New characters and new villains from the comics! You will see and learn some things about the characters that you haven't before!

    Interesting. Do you, by any chance, plan to bring them to the big screen in the future? Or is it just a passion project? Just asking.

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I don’t think Donner and Mankiewicz really thought too hard about what a third would be. They were only just struggling to just get the first one out of the gate, which involved considerable rewriting and reshooting. They hadn’t even really thought out what a new ending of II would be. The broad idea seemed to be that Donner would have directed a third one and then Mankiewicz would have directed the fourth film himself with Donner as a producer. They were offered to do IV when Reeve was trying to get that together, and they wisely declined because Reeve’s pitch of involving himself with getting rid of nuclear weapons not only opens up a can of worms but brings reality too close for comfort.

    After all, we see in SUPERMAN II the world that astronauts and cosmonauts are not only working together but are still visiting the moon! That kinda tells us how Superman’s world doesn’t necessarily reflect ours (though funnily Donner shot footage of Zod using a machine gun to shoot Nixon’s presidential portrait, which is wisely cut from both versions).
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    I have a couple of Superman screenplays partly written. New characters and new villains from the comics! You will see and learn some things about the characters that you haven't before!

    Interesting. Do you, by any chance, plan to bring them to the big screen in the future? Or is it just a passion project? Just asking.

    I would love to bring them to the big screen. Superman is one of my passions. It's a rare creative project that I would love to share with others. And have as much creative control, as possible. I just want as much faithfulness to my general stories and the comics, and in particular, the characters from those comics!
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    Random Superman comment based on my recent film viewing:

    Denzel Washington should have been Superman in the 1990s. Everyone after Reeve has fallen short with me because they don't do the duality thing all that well--Cavill is always Cavill. But man, Denzel can project strength and integrity and all that and be handsome at the same time, but he can also be the schlubbiest-looking doofus around if you want it. He'd have been great.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I feel like he was a bit too good to do it, to be honest! :) Really interesting idea though, I'll chew on that for a bit.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    mtm wrote: »
    I feel like he was a bit too good to do it, to be honest! :) Really interesting idea though, I'll chew on that for a bit.

    Nah. I love Denzel, he's great, but he ain't too good for anything. He tends to elevate his material, and his material tends to need elevating. It's magic that way
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    No one IMO is too good for Superman, a large part of my movie room is part shrine to my favorite superhero of all time (Batman is a close second).
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    I recently came across a video that highlighted the difference in characterization between the DCEU Superman and the MCU Captain America.

    During the production of The First Avenger, the Russo brothers changed the world that surrounded Steve Rogers, maintaining his original traits and building the character little by little, presenting us with his human side of and making him relatable to the audience.
    Meanwhile, Zack Snyder, while trying to bring Superman to a more grounded and realistic world, assasinated his character, lowering him to our level; there is nothing throughout Man of Steel that helps us identify with him, we don't know what he likes to do, what makes him feel human, why he tries to be a hero.

    In short, one showed the circumstances and qualities of the character while the other didn't, making the latter unimportant.
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