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  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    That’s the crazy thing, all the stuff with Luke being a recluse and found by the female protagonist (tentatively named Kira) was originally the story for Episode VII. But then JJ came on board, didn’t know how to handle all the Luke stuff, so he pushed that all back for the very ending and let VIII deal with all of it.

    Essentially, TLJ would have been beginning of the sequel trilogy, rather than the middle chapter.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited November 13 Posts: 4,704
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/star-wars-rey-movie-simon-kinberg-1236059786/

    As much as I like Rey, I just don't get Lucasfilm anymore. As I've said before, at least EON waits for the right time to announce things. Kathleen Kennedy lacks direction with these films. She's no Cubby Broccoli, that's for sure! I want to defend IFP and EON, on much of this type of marketing. They’ll always be rumors, sure, but both will announce things when they’re ready to. It’s a shame that Daisy Ridley won’t probably be able to do a Bond movie, now, though. She’d be a good Moneypenny.
  • itsrawitsraw
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    A classic case of throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks. The smart thing to do would be to let it rest for a few years, but because Disney spent so much money obtaining the rights to the IP, they have to keep making stuff to make their investment back!

    By the way, Mark Hamill is still a working actor, everyone loves Luke Skywalker, why not do more projects with him?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    itsraw wrote: »
    A classic case of throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks. The smart thing to do would be to let it rest for a few years, but because Disney spent so much money obtaining the rights to the IP, they have to keep making stuff to make their investment back!

    By the way, Mark Hamill is still a working actor, everyone loves Luke Skywalker, why not do more projects with him?

    Yes, let’s bring Luke back please!
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    If they wanted to do that, they could take advantage of the New Jedi Order novels from Legends.
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    However, according to Kathleen Kennedy, they've got no source material to base themselves off.
    https://www.superherohype.com/movies/472176-kathleen-kennedy-claims-star-wars-films-have-no-source-material/amp
    I understand that was long ago and she might've meant there's no source material linked to Lucas (even if that isn't exactly true), but it kind of feels like they're ignoring Legends to the point of treating it like it never existed, even when they brought back some lore and characters into canon.
  • itsrawitsraw
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    TheSkyfallen06 wrote: »
    If they wanted to do that, they could take advantage of the New Jedi Order novels from Legends.
    5196b8f70c61efdbace8b162b09e6569.jpg
    However, according to Kathleen Kennedy, they've got no source material to base themselves off.
    https://www.superherohype.com/movies/472176-kathleen-kennedy-claims-star-wars-films-have-no-source-material/amp
    I understand that was long ago and she might've meant there's no source material linked to Lucas (even if that isn't exactly true), but it kind of feels like they're ignoring Legends to the point of treating it like it never existed, even when they brought back some lore and characters into canon.

    Yeah I don't see why not at this point, considering they've already poached Thrawn.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited November 16 Posts: 4,704
    TheSkyfallen06 wrote: »
    If they wanted to do that, they could take advantage of the New Jedi Order novels from Legends.
    5196b8f70c61efdbace8b162b09e6569.jpg
    However, according to Kathleen Kennedy, they've got no source material to base themselves off.
    https://www.superherohype.com/movies/472176-kathleen-kennedy-claims-star-wars-films-have-no-source-material/amp
    I understand that was long ago and she might've meant there's no source material linked to Lucas (even if that isn't exactly true), but it kind of feels like they're ignoring Legends to the point of treating it like it never existed, even when they brought back some lore and characters into canon.

    Lucas did give Disney story treatments for 7, 8 & 9, to up the sale price. I understand that they intentionally didn't use them, and Lucas felt betrayed. Kennedy I think some days wants to make Star Wars her own as much as possible honestly. Rey getting so many possible appearances is proof of that. Ironically, her possible story arc is what Lucas planned for Luke long ago, before deciding to end on ROTJ.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/disney-star-wars-ice-age-6-release-2026-1236063414/

    At least we're getting The Madalorian and Grogu in 2026 though. It's actually somewhat amazing that we only know 3 members of the cast: Pedro Pascal, Grogu and Sigourney Weaver.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Grogu is a puppet, not sure he counts as a cast member! :)

    I would say that Lucas did write the prequels, it's possible his treatments weren't gold.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited November 16 Posts: 4,704
    mtm wrote: »
    Grogu is a puppet, not sure he counts as a cast member! :)

    I would say that Lucas did write the prequels, it's possible his treatments weren't gold.

    That's true. He also never put in writing that Disney HAD to use his treatments. So, it honestly went both ways somewhat fairly. Daisy Ridley could be playing Rey for the rest of her life, if they don't kill her off until she's an older woman.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    At some point they’ll have to bite the bullet and recast with younger actors. I used to think NOBODY could ever step into the roles of Kirk and Spock, and it’s already been recast TWICE and still going.

    You can’t keep deepfaking/AI this forever.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    At some point they’ll have to bite the bullet and recast with younger actors. I used to think NOBODY could ever step into the roles of Kirk and Spock, and it’s already been recast TWICE and still going.

    You can’t keep deepfaking/AI this forever.

    Luke-Skywalker-Sebastian-Stan.jpeg
    Sebastian Stan has been in fans' sights to play young Luke for some time now. He only has one condition:
    https://www.cbr.com/sebastian-stan-open-for-luke-skywalker/
    'Beyond the popular fan cast, there have also been rumors that Stan might be considered to take on the role of a young Luke for real. Stan shot these down in March 2021, saying that he would only believe the reports were true if  "Mark Hamill calls me personally to tell me that he feels inclined to share this role with me."'

    Some other actors on their watch have been Anthony Ingruber and Jamie Costa for Han Solo:
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    And i know it's probably a little too soon to talk about Vader (May the force be with you, JEJ), but there's this guy named Ryan Golden who does an amazing impression of him:


  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    mtm wrote: »
    Grogu is a puppet, not sure he counts as a cast member! :)

    I would say that Lucas did write the prequels, it's possible his treatments weren't gold.

    I think Lucas has good story ideas, where things tend to fall about for him is in the dialogue. I would be curious what was in those treatments just to see if it may have been an improvement over the final 3 films.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited November 27 Posts: 4,704
    thedove wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Grogu is a puppet, not sure he counts as a cast member! :)

    I would say that Lucas did write the prequels, it's possible his treatments weren't gold.

    I think Lucas has good story ideas, where things tend to fall about for him is in the dialogue. I would be curious what was in those treatments just to see if it may have been an improvement over the final 3 films.

    Yes, GL has personally admitted that he's not good with writing dialogue. As @Red_Snow and I were talking on the Daniel Craig thread, maybe DC can get an actual appearance in SW. If namely, the Rian Johnson trilogy gets going. That includes Rachel Weisz. At the risk of sounding controversial, I'd like to see RJ direct a SW with characters we don't know. It just seems more to his style.

    Also, yes, Grogu is a cast member, just as much as Yoda! Speaking of cast members, something tells me that Jon Favreau will bring some MCU cast members with him.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I'd say Frank Oz was a cast member ;)
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited December 3 Posts: 16,628
    I watched the first Skeleton Crew and the leap in quality from The Acolyte is quite striking, it's already so much better.
    I'm maybe not 100% sure about the Spielberg pastiche quality of it all though, it might be time to move from the 80s.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    mtm wrote: »
    I watched the first Skeleton Crew and the leap in quality from The Acolyte is quite striking, it's already so much better.
    I'm maybe not 100% sure about the Spielberg pastiche quality of it all though, it might be time to move from the 80s.

    George Lucas, Rian Johnson and many others have tried to move SW out of the 80s. The fans complain. When that happens, JJ Abrams and his types go back to the 80s, and more people complain. It's becoming a general cycle in this series, it seems.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Rian Johnson could probably deliver a better film with wholly original characters. Nobody with a lot of baggage like Luke or anyone else. I like TLJ, even rank it third overall, but it had the unenviable task of following up a film that Abrams basically half assed with a ton of hand waving.

    “A great question… for another time!”

    I don’t think Abrams’ mystery box was so great for Star Wars. That meant burdening other filmmakers to answer (or even not answer) questions Abrams didn’t even think through.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I just don’t think Johnson is suited to SW. he’s great at other things.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited December 5 Posts: 25,458
    Production on Skeleton Crew is good not the cost but the design and attention to detail. The show itself I zoned out pretty much straight away its clearly a kids show so I can't criticize it.

    The ship taking off was pretty cool, looked great.

    I like The Goonies but that is based on my own nostalgia when I watched the film as a kid. I am sure kids today will enjoy Skeleton Crew
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Production on Skeleton Crew is good not the cost but the design and attention to detail. The show itself I zoned out pretty much straight away its clearly a kids show so I can't criticize it.

    The ship taking off was pretty cool, looked great.

    I like The Goonies but that is based on my own nostalgia when I watched the film as a kid. I am sure kids today will enjoy Skeleton Crew



    Just remember what George Lucas himself has said. Now, actually start some of those movie projects, Lucasfilm!
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    edited December 12 Posts: 1,129
    Holiday Special reference in Skeleton Crew:

    https://m.youtube.com/shorts/XzlRKETh1Bw
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    https://www.movieguide.org/news-articles/the-mandalorian-grogu-movie-adds-two-cast-members.html

    Place your bets for other Star Wars characters that will appear.
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