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Most realistic Bond films?
chrisisall
Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
Today's world leaders are demonstrably a bunch of 2nd tier idiots. The corporate ones are less idiotic & better at being evil. So IMO Tomorrow Never Dies gets 2nd place, and Quantum Of Solace gets 1st.
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#orangemanbad
Least realistic would probably include all three of the Lewis Gilbert ones and the space laser duo DAF and DAD.
Yeah, I'd say CR, but it features a secret agent being sent to gamble a baddie into submission at poker, which is utterly ridiculous :D
I don't really want a Bond which isn't implausible in some way to be honest.
Even QOS has Bond leaping around and accomplishing extraordinary feats of endurance (I tend to criticise that aspect of the film to a degree, but even then there's always an element that Bond can handle/accomplish things most people can't).
It also has a scene where Bond's heart is stopped and restarted again, after which he just goes back to playing cards and drinking. And a moment where he manages to casually catch a gun after it's thrown at him (all while he's balancing on the top of a very high crane). That's not to mention the sinking house, Bond being able to survive the tumble his Aston Martin takes, and many other things in that film which are all just part of the James Bond experience.
Agreed, Bond isn't meant to be completely realistic. It's heightened reality.
As you say, FRWL does have SPECTRE in it, which is pretty silly, and played in a very OTT fashion.
1. FYEO
2. FRWL
3. QOS
4. TLD
5. DN
6. LTK
7. TMWTGG
8. TB
9. AVTAK
10. OP
Probably with heavy safety measures and precautions! That said I don't know how they did that stunt in all honesty. Bond not having any broken bones afterwards is a bit of a miracle in the context of the film! The gun throwing thing fair enough (I dunno why though but to me it always looked a bit odd the way it was edited. As if the momentum of the gun slowed in the shot of Bond catching it. Ah well, it's a cool moment. Not something I'd be able to do IRL!)
Sometimes on these forums when people question the plausibility or reality of Bond movies I feel it can be a bit of a pointless game. The typical one is questioning how Silva in SF managed to so precisely plan his escape from MI6. Why not ask how Bond was able to hijack a digger on a train? It wouldn't have the key in it in all likelihood. Bond needs to have some nonsense in it.
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I imagine he’s talking about ‘54 ;).
Oddly enough CR’54 is probably the most realistic piece of Bond media given the low constraints the production team had to work (being bound to stage and all.)
One thing that's always bugged me is who is transporting all of those old model VW Beetles and why? :D
They weren't new cars: the Beetle model for that year was a newer shape, they were all old cars. Who needed all of those? (it's actually something that I wonder about when people say it's product placement; I'm not totally convinced it is!)
That's a great photo though isn't it? How on Earth did the driver of the Land Rover know how to avoid those?
I remember people complaining about Bond breaking off that door handle, though. 😉
With bigger budgets, access to future CGI and Bond becoming progressively more super human with each passing decade or actor, things kind of degenerated into farce or the realism of once before just was no longer present.
Once Bond went beyond a certain boundary i.e. the viewer was subject to instances that went outside rational believability, it kind of began to fall apart.
Some of the plots or storylines of the Bond movies have been incredulously absurd since the steady beginnings of Connery's first two features. Guess it's just something the audience progressively craves for and / or the directors feel a growing need to adhere to.
CR of course seems silly, but it does have the feel of one of those plots that did really happen back in the Cold War that seems ridiculous today (imagining the US parachuting mislabelled condoms for instance, makes this idea seem a bit more sensical). It's like the reverse of the Russian/SPECTRE's plan in FRWL. Embarrass and humiliate the target more than anything.
I see what you did there. :P
Firstly, the plot of creating a war through the media was lifted from William Hearst (Pulitzer's fiercest competitor) doing the same thing with the Spanish American War. Secondly Rupert Murdoch and Robert Maxwell are also examples used for the film.
I think finally that the plot, while lifted from reality, isn't realistic in 1997. After all, who says Carver will have a China for media rights after the war he's planning to create? Selling media only works when people are buying media, and if the war is directly impacting both Britain and China, then no one is buying the papers.
I would say that the first two films have a somewhat plausible plot and the gadgets seem based in reality, though I am not sure that small talc powder case would release that much tear gas but I am not an expert in compressed gases.
I would say that TLD is pretty grounded outside of a tricked out Aston that can actually laser a chassis of a car.
I am in the class that a Bond film is meant to entertain. I really love that the series is serious and real but at the same time has fun and entertains the audience in new and imaginative ways.