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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    M:I marathon has begun. Wow, it has been a while.
    Mission: Impossible- dayyyum Tom looks like a teenager here. Great direction- Ethan working stuff out in his head was great, especially in front of Phelps. Emilio's character death always shocks me. Always. Strange watching this as our FBI & CIA are being gutted & repurposed IRL....

    Are you going to watch M:I 2 ? I watched them all in order not long ago, and had forgotten just how poorly M:I 2 came out. A waste of Thandiwe Newton and Anthony Hopkins. It barely stands. Next time I'll just skip over it.

    I just remembered that I actually skipped MI:2 when I did my Mission Impossible marathon late last year.
    The second film is a real stinker, when compared to the other entries.

    I'm in the minority here- I like M:I2 a LOT. I actually prefer it to III. But I like III also....

    While III is always my least favorite in the series by a wide margin, I'll throw in my love for II as well. It's cheesy at times but very entertaining.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    M:I marathon has begun. Wow, it has been a while.
    Mission: Impossible- dayyyum Tom looks like a teenager here. Great direction- Ethan working stuff out in his head was great, especially in front of Phelps. Emilio's character death always shocks me. Always. Strange watching this as our FBI & CIA are being gutted & repurposed IRL....

    Are you going to watch M:I 2 ? I watched them all in order not long ago, and had forgotten just how poorly M:I 2 came out. A waste of Thandiwe Newton and Anthony Hopkins. It barely stands. Next time I'll just skip over it.

    I just remembered that I actually skipped MI:2 when I did my Mission Impossible marathon late last year.
    The second film is a real stinker, when compared to the other entries.

    I'm in the minority here- I like M:I2 a LOT. I actually prefer it to III. But I like III also....

    While III is always my least favorite in the series by a wide margin, I'll throw in my love for II as well. It's cheesy at times but very entertaining.

    Oh man that running back flip kick is painful for me to watch, but yeah, it's like the DAF of IMF. Mindless fun.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,100
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    chrisisall wrote: »
    M:I marathon has begun. Wow, it has been a while.
    Mission: Impossible- dayyyum Tom looks like a teenager here. Great direction- Ethan working stuff out in his head was great, especially in front of Phelps. Emilio's character death always shocks me. Always. Strange watching this as our FBI & CIA are being gutted & repurposed IRL....

    Are you going to watch M:I 2 ? I watched them all in order not long ago, and had forgotten just how poorly M:I 2 came out. A waste of Thandiwe Newton and Anthony Hopkins. It barely stands. Next time I'll just skip over it.

    I just remembered that I actually skipped MI:2 when I did my Mission Impossible marathon late last year.
    The second film is a real stinker, when compared to the other entries.

    I'm in the minority here- I like M:I2 a LOT. I actually prefer it to III. But I like III also....

    While III is always my least favorite in the series by a wide margin, I'll throw in my love for II as well. It's cheesy at times but very entertaining.

    Oh man that running back flip kick is painful for me to watch, but yeah, it's like the DAF of IMF. Mindless fun.

    What always gets me are those soap opera slo-mo shots when he's pursuing Nyah in the first act. It's like a shampoo commercial, the way their hair is flowing so gorgeously.

    Bonus points go to how ridiculous their spin-out and collision is. I rewound and replayed it years ago to make sense of it but there's none to be made.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I am an unapologetic fan of 3 ; it may not have the scope of later entries, but I think it made Ethan a more three dimensional character than some of the other super spies.

    Now, in later entries, it was wise of them not to wallow in his domestic life, but I love what it added to his character.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I like MI2. Love Zimmer's score a lot. The film worked at the time, like John Woo did. It's similar to how you can't make movies like The Rock, Con Air, Broken Arrow, Face/Off, Gone in 60 seconds, Days Of Thunder, etc anymore. Just enjoy them for what they were.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I am an unapologetic fan of 3 ; it may not have the scope of later entries, but I think it made Ethan a more three dimensional character than some of the other super spies.

    Now, in later entries, it was wise of them not to wallow in his domestic life, but I love what it added to his character.

    Same here. Big fan.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I've tried very, very hard to get into III but Abrams' style doesn't mesh with the series well, in my opinion. Too much visual chaos and jarring editing. It's got a damn good cast though; PSH is a fantastic villain, while I really wish more of this M:I crew was used in future installments.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I've tried very, very hard to get into III but Abrams' style doesn't mesh with the series well, in my opinion. Too much visual chaos and jarring editing. It's got a damn good cast though; PSH is a fantastic villain, while I really wish more of this M:I crew was used in future installments.

    Just finished III, and I must say I enjoyed it more this time than ever before. Possibly because I was more ready for the shakey/vomit cam. The digital colour timing choices bugged me more though. When the worst movie in a series is still very entertaining, that says a lot.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I like MI2. Love Zimmer's score a lot. The film worked at the time, like John Woo did. It's similar to how you can't make movies like The Rock, Con Air, Broken Arrow, Face/Off, Gone in 60 seconds, Days Of Thunder, etc anymore. Just enjoy them for what they were.

    Yeah exactly, they’re all very of their time. I don’t want to say dated because I don’t think there’s anything wrong with films being of the time they were made.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    I like MI2. Love Zimmer's score a lot. The film worked at the time, like John Woo did. It's similar to how you can't make movies like The Rock, Con Air, Broken Arrow, Face/Off, Gone in 60 seconds, Days Of Thunder, etc anymore. Just enjoy them for what they were.

    Yeah exactly, they’re all very of their time. I don’t want to say dated because I don’t think there’s anything wrong with films being of the time they were made.

    Yeah. That era cared less about story and so did the audience, so that encouraged the filmmakers to keep making more of such films.
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    MI2 features the best mask reveal of the entire series.... plus Thandiwe Newton is incredibly hot in it, and the action is ridiculous... so it gets a pass from me :D
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited February 4 Posts: 17,194
    Mallory wrote: »
    MI2 features the best mask reveal of the entire series....

    Yeah it's mostly not very MI-ish, but that end bit with the mask is a proper Ethan-outsmarts-the-baddie-through-executing-a-plan stuff, which is Mission Impossible and works really well. It's actually what I thought Dead Reckoning was missing: there's no real heist bit and they don't pull off any clever plans, which is part of the satisfaction of MI.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    mtm wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    MI2 features the best mask reveal of the entire series....

    Yeah it's mostly not very MI-ish, but that end bit with the mask is a proper Ethan-outsmarts-the-baddie-through-executing-a-plan stuff, which is Mission Impossible and works really well. It's actually what I thought Dead Reckoning was missing: there's no real heist bit and they don't pull off any clever plans, which is part of the satisfaction of MI.

    The last two films have been missing that and replaced it with overlong car chases
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Fallout had the plan to break Lane out (which was the usual 'Ethan has to steal something dangerous and allow it into the open to draw out the bad guy' plot pretty much every film has) plus the little plan with Pegg in the mask to get Cavill to reveal himself as the baddie: there are plans in there.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited February 5 Posts: 17,981
    Just finished M:I Ghost Protocol. Regardless of some of the nonsense, it was incredibly entertaining. The team work was very good, the characters were solid. And a very nice resolution to Hunt's 'loss' concerning his Wife. My personal love for M:I 2 aside, this was the best movie so far in my marathon. Also, feels sort of weird watching & enjoying this as a coup is being enacted here & now by a billionaire pal of the current Ruler of Russia. Whatever.
  • edited February 5 Posts: 4,663
    Something struck me, after the "failure" of the Pt1 and Pt2 concept, in a way, RN and Fallout are 2 parts of the 1 story, with a complete narrative re the same bad guy, proper relationship arc re Ilsa and Ethan, story arc re Hunley etc etc, at the least, a great double bill. (capturing the bad guy with the team intact is a far better and positive conclusion to a Pt1 than the ending of DR IMHO)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    patb wrote: »
    Something struck me, after the "failure" of the Pt1 and Pt2 concept, in a way, RN and Fallout are 2 parts of the 1 story, with a complete narrative re the same bad guy, proper relationship arc re Ilsa and Ethan, story arc re Hunley etc etc, at the least, a great double bill. (capturing the bad guy with the team intact is a far better and positive conclusion to a Pt1 than the ending of DR IMHO)

    Huh, never thought about it that way.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    patb wrote: »
    Something struck me, after the "failure" of the Pt1 and Pt2 concept, in a way, RN and Fallout are 2 parts of the 1 story, with a complete narrative re the same bad guy, proper relationship arc re Ilsa and Ethan, story arc re Hunley etc etc, at the least, a great double bill. (capturing the bad guy with the team intact is a far better and positive conclusion to a Pt1 than the ending of DR IMHO)

    Yes, as much as I like DR, it's not a complete movie. If pt. 2 isn't so good it will become a waste of time.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Just watched RN. Much better than I remembered! Very convoluted plot, not that that's a bad thing... I'm liking Ilsa more, this may make me ultimately dislike RN I'm afraid..... @-)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Liking Ilsa makes you dislike the film?
  • edited February 6 Posts: 4,663
    Its interesting to further consider the whole "Pt1" and "Pt2" issue, other than possible ego and wanting to be bigger every time, what exatly are the advantages? It's hard enough to make a great movie full stop, harder perhaps to keep up the quality within such a long running series (especually after the success of Fallout), what exactly was their thinking? PS are there any other examples of really good Pt1 and Pt2 movies?
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Harry potter maybe with the Deathly Hallows. Even though it's far from my cup of tea.

    The industry had made a habit of taking the final book of a series and splitting it in two films to maximize revenue.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    mtm wrote: »
    Liking Ilsa makes you dislike the film?

    No, let me clarify that- I hate to admit it, but I haven't seen Rogue Nation or Fallout since I purchased the DVD's of them (that's a while!) So I didn't even remember Ilsa's character at all (that's what I get for watching Bond movies too much & not M:I films less often), so when I saw Dead Reckoning pt.1 I didn't feel a real emotional connection to Ilsa when she got killed (seemingly only being a throw away character for Hunt to react to the death of).... but in RN she was GREAT! I just meant that next time I watch DR pt.1 I may resent that they had her die.... I mean, I WILL resent it... hopefully not enough to dislike the film.
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    It looks like a lot of new nuggets from empire
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited February 7 Posts: 17,981
    Okay killing Ilsa in DR SUCKED. She was so good in Rogue Nation
    & Fallout. I am so sick of this 'kill the female to motivate the male's revenge' bullshit. I've had enormous fun with my Blu ray Mission: Impossible retrospective marathon, but now I feel like the franchise is losing itself in 'destroy the character' nonsense, like in No Time To Die.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    chrisisall wrote: »
    ...losing itself in 'destroy the character' nonsense, like in No Time To Die.

    Yep.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited February 7 Posts: 17,981
    Creasy47 wrote: »

    Yes, of course I'll HAVE to see it. I still feel like killing Ilsa was a cheap writing move. They'd already faux killed her off early in the film, and Hunt's original girlfriend's death is enough of a real motivator. Also, Ilsa (as shown in the previous two films) was more than able to handle that stiff jerkweed....

    And here are my marathon ratings- how much I enjoyed them, not objective ratings of the films themselves:
    M:I- 8
    M:I II- 10
    M:I III- 8
    Ghost Protocol- 10
    Rogue Nation- 10
    Fallout- 10
    Dead Reckoning- (depends on pt. 2- if somehow Ilsa's not REALLY dead, could be another 10, if she really is dead, probably another 8.... we shall see...)
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