EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards

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  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
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    Do you think the people at IOI Interactive have learned the news at the same time of us and are panicking right now for what it is meaning fo their new game?

    I seriously doubt this affects the game in any significant way, especially since Amazon/MGM probably understand, as most do, the significant role that video games play in brand reach and profitability.
    Decisions, like the one announced today, aren’t made last minute. They’re negotiated over time. I wouldn’t be surprised if this deal was already in the works when the WSJ article was published.
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    Burgess wrote: »
    Do you think the people at IOI Interactive have learned the news at the same time of us and are panicking right now for what it is meaning fo their new game?

    I seriously doubt this affects the game in any significant way, especially since Amazon/MGM probably understand, as most do, the significant role that video games play in brand reach and profitability.
    Decisions, like the one announced today, aren’t made last minute. They’re negotiated over time. I wouldn’t be surprised if this deal was already in the works when the WSJ article was published.

    Maybe the point of the article was to make Amazon a bit more cautious in how they handle Bond. I've noticed it's certainly got a lot of fans and viewers more sympathetic to EON's way of doing things and keeping Bond films theatrical experiences at the very least.

    I suppose there's so much behind closed doors we don't know.
  • SkyfallCraigSkyfallCraig Rome, Italy
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    Very good news.
    BB was clearly more involved in the other ventures she has, like theater.
    Giving Amazon the creative power means we will have more content, more clear outlook on what will arrive and when, more formats for all to enjoy, video games, etc.

    For the ones who have concerns on the tradition being maintained, they treated very well a large number of IPs, especially in the spies/war fiction department such as Jack Reacher, Jack Ryan, The Terminal List, ecc

    So, really looking forward to it.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    In the press release it mentions a 'joint venture' but that Amazon will have creative control. So EON are walking away from Bond?

    I have been critical of some of EONs choices these last few years, but I didn't want this, not this. :(
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'm optimisitc. I can see Amazon producers producing more frequent films/TV, or whatever. However without the Broccoli family, would a new series omit traditions such as the gunbarrel, PTS, titles, music, etc? Will we have an entire era of NSNA style Bond films?
    Will Amazon be as careful with casting as Barbara? Or could we possibly see an A lister like Keanu, Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise take on the role? Maybe a flavor of the month young actor?
    I'd say anything is possible now.
    :D

    They should keep the traditional tropes such as Gunbarrel, title sequence etc. There's gotta be contractual things to keep the traditional things in place.

    Will we get more spinoffs and other things? It's possible. I think the only major change will be Amazon MGM Studios Presents (insert actor here) as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
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    I wonder if Babs saw this coming back when NTTD was being developed and decided to end the Bond series on her own terms. It would certainly explain a lot of the choices made in that film.
  • HildebrandRarityHildebrandRarity Centre international d'assistance aux personnes déplacées, Paris, France
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    NTTD was shot before Amazon considered acquiring MGM.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'm optimisitc. I can see Amazon producers producing more frequent films/TV, or whatever. However without the Broccoli family, would a new series omit traditions such as the gunbarrel, PTS, titles, music, etc? Will we have an entire era of NSNA style Bond films?
    Will Amazon be as careful with casting as Barbara? Or could we possibly see an A lister like Keanu, Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise take on the role? Maybe a flavor of the month young actor?
    I'd say anything is possible now.
    :D

    They should keep the traditional tropes such as Gunbarrel, title sequence etc. There's gotta be contractual things to keep the traditional things in place.

    Will we get more spinoffs and other things? It's possible. I think the only major change will be Amazon MGM Studios Presents (insert actor here) as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007

    Well, we don’t know if the joint venture has a new name. It could be that Amazon/MGM and EON’s new joint venture is called “007 Films” or something like it.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    In the press release it mentions a 'joint venture' but that Amazon will have creative control. So EON are walking away from Bond?

    I have been critical of some of EONs choices these last few years, but I didn't want this, not this. :(

    As far as I see it (and happy to be corrected) this new 'joint venture' is the new equivalent of the Danjaq/MGM deal which held the rights to James Bond 007 and presumably MGM and Broccoli(s) hold equal ownership of that company, whereas Amazon/MGM take over from the Eon side of the old deal in that they were the company who actually made the films and decided what went in them.

    The Broccolis aren't letting go of owning half of 007, because you'd be mad to! :)
    But the old deal meant that both sides had to agree on making a film, I wonder if that will remain or the new venture means those rules have gone. You'd imagine if she owns half she get to have a say/veto on what the rights are used for, that seems standard. Unless it's a 51/49% split of course.
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'm optimisitc. I can see Amazon producers producing more frequent films/TV, or whatever. However without the Broccoli family, would a new series omit traditions such as the gunbarrel, PTS, titles, music, etc? Will we have an entire era of NSNA style Bond films?
    Will Amazon be as careful with casting as Barbara? Or could we possibly see an A lister like Keanu, Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise take on the role? Maybe a flavor of the month young actor?
    I'd say anything is possible now.
    :D

    They should keep the traditional tropes such as Gunbarrel, title sequence etc. There's gotta be contractual things to keep the traditional things in place.

    I doubt they'll have to use that stuff, just like Eon didn't choose to use some of it in CR, but they'll own it all so will be able to.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Burgess wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'm optimisitc. I can see Amazon producers producing more frequent films/TV, or whatever. However without the Broccoli family, would a new series omit traditions such as the gunbarrel, PTS, titles, music, etc? Will we have an entire era of NSNA style Bond films?
    Will Amazon be as careful with casting as Barbara? Or could we possibly see an A lister like Keanu, Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise take on the role? Maybe a flavor of the month young actor?
    I'd say anything is possible now.
    :D

    They should keep the traditional tropes such as Gunbarrel, title sequence etc. There's gotta be contractual things to keep the traditional things in place.

    Will we get more spinoffs and other things? It's possible. I think the only major change will be Amazon MGM Studios Presents (insert actor here) as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007

    Well, we don’t know if the joint venture has a new name. It could be that Amazon/MGM and EON’s new joint venture is called “007 Films” or something like it.

    True. I'm sure we'll get some more information soon.

    With that being said, I've never seen Rings of Power since LOTR isn't something in my wheelhouse. But shows such as Reacher, Jack Ryan and Bosch are amongst my favorite shows produced by them. I don't think quality will be a problem. But they really need to focus on features.
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    Didn’t see this one coming, although I had made comments about fatigue and the Bond producers. I sensed, the minute NTTD ended, that Babs just wouldn’t be into it the same way anymore. Of course there are more shades to all of this. Most of which we will be ignorant to for years.

    Sad day indeed. Troubled, uncertain times ahead. Once more, the cinematic Bond is pretty much aligned with the state of the world.

    We can only hope. And, more than ever, use our voices to clear up what our beloved franchise is all about, in case they, at the new offices, don’t know.
  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'm optimisitc. I can see Amazon producers producing more frequent films/TV, or whatever. However without the Broccoli family, would a new series omit traditions such as the gunbarrel, PTS, titles, music, etc? Will we have an entire era of NSNA style Bond films?
    Will Amazon be as careful with casting as Barbara? Or could we possibly see an A lister like Keanu, Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise take on the role? Maybe a flavor of the month young actor?
    I'd say anything is possible now.
    :D

    They should keep the traditional tropes such as Gunbarrel, title sequence etc. There's gotta be contractual things to keep the traditional things in place.

    Agreed, plus there's no reason to get rid of those. If anything, Amazon will try to make the safest movie they can, so I can see them forcing all the Bond trademarks into it, the Bond theme blaring every other minute and so on. An AI-made Bond movie, so to speak.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'm optimisitc. I can see Amazon producers producing more frequent films/TV, or whatever. However without the Broccoli family, would a new series omit traditions such as the gunbarrel, PTS, titles, music, etc? Will we have an entire era of NSNA style Bond films?
    Will Amazon be as careful with casting as Barbara? Or could we possibly see an A lister like Keanu, Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise take on the role? Maybe a flavor of the month young actor?
    I'd say anything is possible now.
    :D

    They should keep the traditional tropes such as Gunbarrel, title sequence etc. There's gotta be contractual things to keep the traditional things in place.

    Agreed, plus there's no reason to get rid of those. If anything, Amazon will try to make the safest movie they can, so I can see them forcing all the Bond trademarks into it, the Bond theme blaring every other minute and so on. An AI-made Bond movie, so to speak.

    Feels likely, doesn't it; a sort of Force Awakens Bond.
    And part of me will probably enjoy that, I guess you could say GoldenEye is that really (and came after a hiatus too so was pretty much intended for that purpose). But I'd hope for some CR-style meat and originality at some point too.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'm optimisitc. I can see Amazon producers producing more frequent films/TV, or whatever. However without the Broccoli family, would a new series omit traditions such as the gunbarrel, PTS, titles, music, etc? Will we have an entire era of NSNA style Bond films?
    Will Amazon be as careful with casting as Barbara? Or could we possibly see an A lister like Keanu, Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise take on the role? Maybe a flavor of the month young actor?
    I'd say anything is possible now.
    :D

    They should keep the traditional tropes such as Gunbarrel, title sequence etc. There's gotta be contractual things to keep the traditional things in place.

    Agreed, plus there's no reason to get rid of those. If anything, Amazon will try to make the safest movie they can, so I can see them forcing all the Bond trademarks into it, the Bond theme blaring every other minute and so on. An AI-made Bond movie, so to speak.

    That’s the only, sort of, possibility positive thing I can think of…maybe.
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    Well, Barbara and Michael got the paycheck.

    I am optimistic. I'm sure there are hundreds of directors who want the job.
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    Wow. One way or another, nothing will be the same, now. NTTD really was the end in a lot of ways. I am… nervous, to say the least.
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    my main hope is that Amazon learn from Disney and treat the franchise with the respect it deserves. We all know there is huge potential for a "Bond universe" if (and it's a huge IF I admit) its done properly.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I'm optimisitc. I can see Amazon producers producing more frequent films/TV, or whatever. However without the Broccoli family, would a new series omit traditions such as the gunbarrel, PTS, titles, music, etc? Will we have an entire era of NSNA style Bond films?
    Will Amazon be as careful with casting as Barbara? Or could we possibly see an A lister like Keanu, Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise take on the role? Maybe a flavor of the month young actor?
    I'd say anything is possible now.
    :D

    They should keep the traditional tropes such as Gunbarrel, title sequence etc. There's gotta be contractual things to keep the traditional things in place.

    Agreed, plus there's no reason to get rid of those. If anything, Amazon will try to make the safest movie they can, so I can see them forcing all the Bond trademarks into it, the Bond theme blaring every other minute and so on. An AI-made Bond movie, so to speak.

    'Fanfic' is my cynical take on that. A team of writers-for-hire, pursuing a Bond product for the lowest common denominator?

    Look, I'll try not to be too pessimistic. Take Stranger Things on Netflix. Whether you like it or not, it delivers good material for a certain target demographic. And apart from a few comics and some merchandising, it doesn't go for spin-offs, crossovers, or, worse, a new season every couple of months. I just hope that Amazon doesn't "star wars" the life out of Bond.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    This is a huge shock and makes me feel very uncertain.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Thought I'd rise from the dead to mourn the end of the series (which for me, was always predicated on control by the Broccolis).

    James Bond is dead, long live James Bond!

    Amen.
  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
    edited February 20 Posts: 121
    mtm wrote: »
    Feels likely, doesn't it; a sort of Force Awakens Bond.

    Yeah, that was my first thought. Disney made a safe SW movie as they had just bought the franchise and had to prove the investors they had to make their money back.
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    Like why would amazon even want this they have no idea what fans want
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    I’m shocked, saddened but not surprised.

    This is a huge change, and could be the end of 007 as we know it. Up to now, it’s been driven by a small family group. From now, it will be run by a mega-corporation, by people with annual performance bonuses to earn.

    However, both Barbara and Gregg are at retirement age, and I didn’t feel a huge creative drive from the family over recent years. Maybe it’s time they enjoyed their well-earned retirements.
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    Like why would amazon even want this they have no idea what fans want

    $$$.

    That’s all it’s about. It’s all anything’s ever about to anyone, lol.
  • meshypushymeshypushy Ireland
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    Amazon have no track record of producing anything other than absolute dross - all of the other streamers have at least had a few critically and commercially acclaimed hits. I cannot imagine a worse home for Bond, now that they have creative control. They have done nothing to inspire hope here - their productions are bloody awful.
  • I want a Felix and Beam spinoff due to the good chemistry between the characters in Quantum of Solace. I'd also like more gap-bridging between QoS and SF storylines.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Like why would amazon even want this they have no idea what fans want

    $$$.

    That’s all it’s about. It’s all anything’s ever about to anyone, lol.

    That's the beginning and end of the reasoning honestly. Amazon having control now gives me approximately zero faith in whatever oversaturated nonsense they'll come up with.

    Bond died in NTTD, but damn, I didn't expect that to feel so permanent.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Unless Amazon make unique and interesting choices, my enthusiasm for Bond’s future has now been completely evaporated. I know some were already feeling down before this news with the stalls, but Bond still having a unique voice in control always kept me at ease. I’d rather wait a whole decade for Bond 26 rather than see it become mined like another Amazon product with no personal flair.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I'm in a melancholic mood, which means I fear for an avalanche of soulless algorithm-guided content, molded to the appeal of the largest possible demographic. That ending to NTTD maybe more emotional now than ever before...

    Hopefully, we'll get some reassuring news in the next few days.
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