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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I am looking forward to this but I am not a big fan of Matt Damon and find him particularly miscast in this role. Daniel Craig could been an interesting choice.

    The cool thing about Nolan is that he can toy with our expectations. We think we know what a Nolan Odysseus may look like, but we don't really know. We can't know until we've seen the finished film. So I'm ready to see what it looks like when Jason Bourne tries to return to Ithaca and his beloved Penelope. ;-)
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    I am looking forward to this but I am not a big fan of Matt Damon and find him particularly miscast in this role. Daniel Craig could been an interesting choice.

    The cool thing about Nolan is that he can toy with our expectations. We think we know what a Nolan Odysseus may look like, but we don't really know. We can't know until we've seen the finished film. So I'm ready to see what it looks like when Jason Bourne tries to return to Ithaca and his beloved Penelope. ;-)

    Lol. I couldn't agree more. I can't wait! That's true. Nolan is definitely going to do something different and extraordinary, while maintaining the familiar elements we know about the tale. I'm also looking forward to hearing what a Ludwig Goransson score for an ancient epic would sound like. It would definitely be wonderful. He might even grab his third Oscar with it.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    My problem with Damon, aside from my general apathy towards him as an actor, is that he, Like John Wayne, Keanu Reeves and others, is quintessentially, contemporary American, and I say this as a proud American. I will have a difficult time accepting him as a legendary Greek hero . With some thought I could probably come up with a dozen, or more, actors who would be more suitable, including Daniel
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    talos7 wrote: »
    My problem with Damon, aside from my general apathy towards him as an actor, is that he, Like John Wayne, Keanu Reeves and others, is quintessentially, contemporary American, and I say this as a proud American. I will have a difficult time accepting him as a legendary Greek hero . With some thought I could probably come up with a dozen, or more, actors who would be more suitable, including Daniel

    I'm not a fan of Matt Damon for two main reasons: He gets so political in his role and movie interviews, and tells people how to vote, more often than not. The second reason is how much he has bashed James Bond over the years. Hey Matt, almost every other action hero has more charm than your version of Jason Bourne. So stop being so outspoken at times! At least the other cast can makeup for better acting and less self-centered-ness.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    https://deadline.com/2025/02/the-odyssey-first-look-matt-damon-odysseus-christopher-nolan-1236292883/

    Well they're off to a good start, the stereotypical sword and sandal costume isn't remotely from the right period of time. Would have expected better from Nolan.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    And Matt Damon…
  • UnivexUnivex
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    Matt Damon has some brilliant roles in his resume, Ripley and Good Will Hunting come straight to mind. But Odysseus?!? With a Bostonian accent? ...bah, no thanks. If he nails it, I'll be first in line to say I was wrong, but I can't bet on it.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I'm intrigued. Nolan has ventured into various periods, but never into 'swords and sandals' territory. I can't imagine how he'll depict the world from 3200 years ago.

    But it's Nolan we're talking about. He's surprised us before! Dunkirk was an unexpected choice, yet he handled it perfectly. I'm sure he's not going to show up with a predictable adaptation of The Odyssey. Also, Nolan doesn't cast actors just for their popularity; he knows what he's doing. As for Damon, Nolan must have a reason, even if it's not clear to us yet. I guess we'll see.

    Nolan worked well with Christian Bale before. If Bale got back into shape, he could nail Odysseus—he's got that Olympic fire in him. I wish he was cast, to be honest.

    For the record, I read both The Odyssey and The Iliad in high school and translated parts from ancient Greek. Studying them made me a fan of Homer's epics. When 'Troy' came out, I was disappointed by how much it diverged from the original story. Here's hoping Nolan does justice to it.

    I have confidence, though. I'm not a Nolan cultist, but I have to admit that the man hasn't disappointed me yet, even if I still struggle with Tenet. It's Nolan, so I'm going to rest assured that it will be awesome.
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited February 22 Posts: 6,824
    Bale would rock as Odysseus. Even with a full blown cockney accent. Better than a bostonian one, that’s for sure ;)

    Do we think Damon got himself attached as a producer as well? ;) We never do know how much of these decisions are about $$$, do we? If there’s one thing we have learned as of late…
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I think it would have been a great, post Bond , role for Daniel.
  • UnivexUnivex
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    talos7 wrote: »
    I think it would have been a great, post Bond , role for Daniel.

    Oh, definitely. Although he does have more of a nordic look to him ;) But he can pull anything off.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    https://www.tmz.com/2025/02/24/christopher-nolan-odyssey-set-morocco/
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    I don't understand the uproar over Ridley Scott casting Christian Bale and Joel Edgerton in Exodus but for Odyssey everybodies fine with not having a single Greek in the cast.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I don’t see it so much as ethnicity as much as it is the qualities of an individual actor. As it applies to the Odyssey, this American sees Matt Damon as too contemporary era American for the role; it might be something intangible, but he just doesn’t fit the material.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Sometimes I go with the lack of “proper” accents. For example, THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER has none of its cast attempting fake Russian accents. Connery, Neill, and Curry are just playing the characters with their natural accents and the filmmakers trust audiences will just roll with it.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Sometimes I go with the lack of “proper” accents. For example, THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER has none of its cast attempting fake Russian accents. Connery, Neill, and Curry are just playing the characters with their natural accents and the filmmakers trust audiences will just roll with it.

    How they handle the language issue was brilliant


  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    VALKYRIE did something similar with Tom Cruise speaking German for a bit before transitioning to his natural English speak.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/christopher-nolan-the-odyssey-movie-universal-pictures-1236179804/

    That's a bold statement.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/christopher-nolan-the-odyssey-movie-universal-pictures-1236179804/

    That's a bold statement.

    That's a link.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I agree with the man. Films that I care about will be bought on Blu-Ray. The physical copy gives me a better sense of having that piece of art in my house.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I agree with the man. Films that I care about will be bought on Blu-Ray. The physical copy gives me a better sense of having that piece of art in my house.

    It's not just a sense, its real. Just look at people not being able to download their ebooks anymore. Anything given on a digital service can be taken away.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I agree with the man. Films that I care about will be bought on Blu-Ray. The physical copy gives me a better sense of having that piece of art in my house.

    It's not just a sense, its real. Just look at people not being able to download their ebooks anymore. Anything given on a digital service can be taken away.

    On the subject of books, I have never understood the ebook thing apart from the fact that real books occupy shelf or luggage space. Half the fun of reading a book is holding the paper in my hands and noticing my progression by the volume on the left versus on the right. A book is a beautiful object, partially defined by the choice of paper, ink, and typesetting. It has a smell and it produces a soft sound when your throw it open. A digital book is just a ghost of ones and zeroes floating in the aether. But that's just how I feel about this matter.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    As far as books go in the digital realm, only audiobooks make sense. They’ve served great for me when doing ordinary tasks like driving or cleaning the house.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I agree with the man. Films that I care about will be bought on Blu-Ray. The physical copy gives me a better sense of having that piece of art in my house.

    Another reason to like Christopher Nolan, artistically and as a general person!
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I agree with the man. Films that I care about will be bought on Blu-Ray. The physical copy gives me a better sense of having that piece of art in my house.

    It's not just a sense, its real. Just look at people not being able to download their ebooks anymore. Anything given on a digital service can be taken away.

    On the subject of books, I have never understood the ebook thing apart from the fact that real books occupy shelf or luggage space. Half the fun of reading a book is holding the paper in my hands and noticing my progression by the volume on the left versus on the right. A book is a beautiful object, partially defined by the choice of paper, ink, and typesetting. It has a smell and it produces a soft sound when your throw it open. A digital book is just a ghost of ones and zeroes floating in the aether. But that's just how I feel about this matter.
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    As far as books go in the digital realm, only audiobooks make sense. They’ve served great for me when doing ordinary tasks like driving or cleaning the house.

    I can respect those viewpoints, @MakeshiftPython and @Mendes4Lyfe there is something magical about holding and collecting books. Real books are forever, no edits.

    As for @DarthDimi I agree, a new book smell is one of the great smells of the world. Even the story isn't great. I'm thankful that while Felix Leiter, The Hook and the Eye will be ebook (chapter by chapter it seems). Thankfully, IFP will release an actual book version later on.

    Keeping this Christopher Nolan themed, I would rather him write a book version of Bond. As he would probably enforce a physical book copy. Let him write a Bond book!
  • Since62Since62
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    I gather that the comments about the inappropriateness of casting Matt Damon as Odysseus would apply to the casting of Tom Holland as his son, as well ? When first I read of the casting, I thought it would be a contemporary re-telling of the story, set in the US...nay nay...
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Why is it inappropriate?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    As far as books go in the digital realm, only audiobooks make sense. They’ve served great for me when doing ordinary tasks like driving or cleaning the house.

    I love listening to them on long walks.
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