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Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Nolan is a huge Bond fan…who is terrible at directing action sequences…and romances.

    Other than those two inconsequential blind spots, Nolan’s perfect!
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    Its a brand new world now folks. My gut feeling is it may be ATJ now? Especially with spin offs which will inevitably happen with Amazon. I am guessing a film every 3 years once the first one is out? With spin offs in between.
  • shimplyshocking007shimplyshocking007
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    I think Campbell would come back if it is Cavill. He did push for Cavill for CR.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    If C. Nolan did come in as a writer/producer, he would more of an effort to have creative control than he did on Man of Steel. Apparently, he just helped with story pitches and hiring Zack Snyder as director. I think he would be more hands on with Bond.
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    If C. Nolan did come in as a writer/producer, he would more of an effort to have creative control than he did on Man of Steel. Apparently, he just helped with story pitches and hiring Zack Snyder as director. I think he would be more hands on with Bond.

    especially if he is directing
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
    edited February 23 Posts: 995
    shimplyshocking007 wrote: »
    I think Campbell would come back if it is Cavill. He did push for Cavill for CR.

    The main thing Campbell liked about Cavill over Craig back then was that Cavill was an unknown.
  • shimplyshocking007shimplyshocking007
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    Ah. I see.
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
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    Didn't the Campbell for Cavill thing get debunked in a recent interview? I recall him saying that Craig was obviously the better choice.
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    delfloria wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Last_Rat_Standing wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Last_Rat_Standing wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »

    We can already see the wheels for Bond slowly turning… Bond will be back.

    You forgot to mention the Broccoli/Craig produced Othello movie project which just reinforces the idea that Barbara is still more interested in working with Daniel than investing her time with Bond. I still think that, unless Craig is a producer on the next Bond film, it is a good possibility that someone else from EON will be handed the reigns to Bond the next time around.

    Yeah that part irked me when I read it. She wants to work with Daniel on any projects, fine and well. But if she is doing that in lieu of, then that half of creative control needs to go to someone else.

    If the rumours are true that DV is the man they want to direct, something I stated back here in mid-Feb, and they didn't have a script yet ready for him, hence, why, six weeks after saying he wanted to take a break from "the sand", he went right back to the sand, and is prepping D3 for a June 2025 shoot, then this is a film producer doing another project before Bond 26 attaches the director they want.

    God forbid a film producer should produce a variety of films. That's like saying an author should only write about one character, or a portrait painter should only compose paintings with one person as the muse.

    I'm not saying that she shouldn't produce anything besides Bond. However my opinion isn't wavering. I think she's too attached to Craig Bond since it's whats defined her Bond legacy which is 99% good.

    However, the future may be much more cloudy if all goes will with Othello and still comes out afterward with we haven't done anything and no clue what to do

    Well, the positive note is we are not likely to hear any solid Bond news until Othello finishes principal. We are looking at about a year out. So now we can all take a nice exhale, enjoy the year, laugh at the Daily Mail, or whomever, and go on wondering about the future.

    Regardless of the time frame, I stand by the idea that if Craig is not part of the production team, which I would not look forward to, of the next Bond film that Broccoli will hand off the actual producing duties to someone else from EON. Personally, I would not have a problem with that. The Craig films are Barbara's legacy Bond films. [/quote]

    Silly me, Though I did see Barbara stepping away, I did not see the creative reigns being completely turned over to Amazon.
  • bondywondybondywondy Uk
    edited February 23 Posts: 464
    He is getting old, 78, but how about Steven Spielberg? I'm certain Amazon could afford his fee. Would be a surprise choice.

    Spielberg is a big Bond fan.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    I'm surprised she didn't consider delegating Bond to a close family friend for a few films like Chris Courbould, Anthony Waye, Meg Simmonds etc.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Spielberg is just not the same filmmaker he was 40 years ago. He couldn’t even put the energy to do a fifth Indy film with Ford.
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    I think we have already seen how things will be different as Bezo's himself asked "Who do think the new Bond should be". Goofy as that was and unproductive in the end result, when was the last time Eon did something like that?
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    delfloria wrote: »
    I think we have already seen how things will be different as Bezo's himself asked "Who do think the new Bond should be". Goofy as that was and unproductive in the end result, when was the last time Eon did something like that?

    The closest scenario I remember was Entertainment Tonight, and one other show, (Hard Copy, maybe) having 1-900 polls on who should play Bond after Dalton. Pierce pretty won by a landslide as the other actors were Liam Neeson, Mel Gibson and Hugh Grant.

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    delfloria wrote: »
    I think we have already seen how things will be different as Bezo's himself asked "Who do think the new Bond should be". Goofy as that was and unproductive in the end result, when was the last time Eon did something like that?

    I hope they still do cryptic clapperboard instagram posts.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    delfloria wrote: »
    I think we have already seen how things will be different as Bezo's himself asked "Who do think the new Bond should be". Goofy as that was and unproductive in the end result, when was the last time Eon did something like that?

    They don't even know what Twitter is.
  • K2WIK2WI Europe
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    shimplyshocking007 wrote: »
    I think Campbell would come back if it is Cavill. He did push for Cavill for CR.

    Campbell was asked about a week or so ago if he thought any of the previous candidates should be considered or cast, and this was his response:
    No, they're all too old. They're all too old. You've got to realize that whoever plays Bond will be contracted for five movies, right? So I think you have to have somebody in their thirties, 35, 36, if they're going to see five films. I mean, look at Roger Moore, I think he was 56 or something by the time he finished his run. I didn't know how old Pierce was, but they're going to go on until their fifties, basically. So they always want to get somebody who will be able to do that many movies, and in order to do so, they have to get someone, I think, in their mid-thirties too.
    He didn’t seem to make any exceptions, so it sounds like he might consider Cavill “too old” now to become Bond.
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    Of course Cavill is too old at this point. But no one has speculated yet on what 007 theme park ride is going to get licensed by Amazon.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    K2WI wrote: »
    shimplyshocking007 wrote: »
    I think Campbell would come back if it is Cavill. He did push for Cavill for CR.

    Campbell was asked about a week or so ago if he thought any of the previous candidates should be considered or cast, and this was his response:
    No, they're all too old. They're all too old. You've got to realize that whoever plays Bond will be contracted for five movies, right? So I think you have to have somebody in their thirties, 35, 36, if they're going to see five films. I mean, look at Roger Moore, I think he was 56 or something by the time he finished his run. I didn't know how old Pierce was, but they're going to go on until their fifties, basically. So they always want to get somebody who will be able to do that many movies, and in order to do so, they have to get someone, I think, in their mid-thirties too.
    He didn’t seem to make any exceptions, so it sounds like he might consider Cavill “too old” now to become Bond.

    And he’d be right. If Cavill were to start making Bond films in 2027 he would already be 44, and depending on the speed Amazon cranks these films out he’d already be 50 by his third or fourth film.
  • BMB007BMB007
    edited 12:45am Posts: 591
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Spielberg is just not the same filmmaker he was 40 years ago. He couldn’t even put the energy to do a fifth Indy film with Ford.

    "West Side Story" is among the most energetic big budget Hollywood movies in recent memory. He didn't do Indy5 because he had other projects he wanted to do and didn't want to do it without Lucas being around.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    delfloria wrote: »
    Of course Cavill is too old at this point. But no one has speculated yet on what 007 theme park ride is going to get licensed by Amazon.

    I'd ride OHMSS the theme park ride.
  • HitchBondUSAHitchBondUSA USA
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    bondywondy wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
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    =D>

    "Guaranteed next day delivery, Bond. And fully electric too."

    lol
  • Benjamin_Weekly69Benjamin_Weekly69 London
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    Look at the bright side. Amaze-on might be more inclined to hire trailblazing directors than the Brocoli’s did. I can see them try to poach Nolan or Villeneuve.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Not seeing the bright side of that.
  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    People forget that Force Awakens was very faithful to original Star Wars, and it was Rian Johnson who came in and threw the plan out the window, not the faceless corporate stooges. There will definitely be a big effort to win over Bond fans initially.

    Was it? Han's character development was totally ignored and he was exactly the same he was at the beginning of A New Hope. Luke's lightsaber was in a random chest even though it had been dropped from the Cloud City (how did they even retrieve it)? The humour was more akin to a Marvel movie than a Star Wars movie.

    If anything, it was The Last Jedi that understood why the Jedi fell in the prequels and even followed George Lucas' guidelines for the sequels, whereas The Force Awakens ignored them.
    Besides, Johnson threw no plan out the window, there was no plan for SW 8 before he came on board. Even Daisy Ridley stated that no one knew who Rey was supposed to be while they were already filming Rise of the Skywalker.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    edited 9:40am Posts: 1,629
    NoTimeToLive wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    People forget that Force Awakens was very faithful to original Star Wars, and it was Rian Johnson who came in and threw the plan out the window, not the faceless corporate stooges. There will definitely be a big effort to win over Bond fans initially.

    Was it? Han's character development was totally ignored and he was exactly the same he was at the beginning of A New Hope. Luke's lightsaber was in a random chest even though it had been dropped from the Cloud City (how did they even retrieve it)? The humour was more akin to a Marvel movie than a Star Wars movie.

    If anything, it was The Last Jedi that understood why the Jedi fell in the prequels and even followed George Lucas' guidelines for the sequels, whereas The Force Awakens ignored them.
    Besides, Johnson threw no plan out the window, there was no plan for SW 8 before he came on board. Even Daisy Ridley stated that no one knew who Rey was supposed to be while they were already filming Rise of the Skywalker.

    I think The Last Jedi was the one that has Marvel humor.

    And the prequels are not the original movies...
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    NoTimeToLive wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    People forget that Force Awakens was very faithful to original Star Wars, and it was Rian Johnson who came in and threw the plan out the window, not the faceless corporate stooges. There will definitely be a big effort to win over Bond fans initially.

    Was it? Han's character development was totally ignored and he was exactly the same he was at the beginning of A New Hope. Luke's lightsaber was in a random chest even though it had been dropped from the Cloud City (how did they even retrieve it)? The humour was more akin to a Marvel movie than a Star Wars movie.

    If anything, it was The Last Jedi that understood why the Jedi fell in the prequels and even followed George Lucas' guidelines for the sequels, whereas The Force Awakens ignored them.
    Besides, Johnson threw no plan out the window, there was no plan for SW 8 before he came on board. Even Daisy Ridley stated that no one knew who Rey was supposed to be while they were already filming Rise of the Skywalker.

    It's crazy how badly those films were plotted. Something like Bond or MI can get away with treating each film as an individual adventure. With something like Star Wars a trilogy with an overarching story is kinda something you need to pre-plan to more of an extent.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    NoTimeToLive wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    People forget that Force Awakens was very faithful to original Star Wars, and it was Rian Johnson who came in and threw the plan out the window, not the faceless corporate stooges. There will definitely be a big effort to win over Bond fans initially.

    Was it? Han's character development was totally ignored and he was exactly the same he was at the beginning of A New Hope. Luke's lightsaber was in a random chest even though it had been dropped from the Cloud City (how did they even retrieve it)? The humour was more akin to a Marvel movie than a Star Wars movie.

    If anything, it was The Last Jedi that understood why the Jedi fell in the prequels and even followed George Lucas' guidelines for the sequels, whereas The Force Awakens ignored them.
    Besides, Johnson threw no plan out the window, there was no plan for SW 8 before he came on board. Even Daisy Ridley stated that no one knew who Rey was supposed to be while they were already filming Rise of the Skywalker.

    I think The Last Jedi was the one that has Marvel humor.

    I tend to agree there actually. The jokes in that one felt really forced and overworked whereas they were natural and charming in Awakens, I thought. Poe teasing the bad guy about not being able to hear him through his mask became a big overworked gag about radios cutting out in his X Wing etc. - I thought the gags fell flat more often and felt wisecrack-y like a Marvel.
    I guess we're in danger of going off topic on a Star Wars debate, as quite often happens! :D
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Purely my own opinion: GE was the RIG
    mtm wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    NoTimeToLive wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    People forget that Force Awakens was very faithful to original Star Wars, and it was Rian Johnson who came in and threw the plan out the window, not the faceless corporate stooges. There will definitely be a big effort to win over Bond fans initially.

    Was it? Han's character development was totally ignored and he was exactly the same he was at the beginning of A New Hope. Luke's lightsaber was in a random chest even though it had been dropped from the Cloud City (how did they even retrieve it)? The humour was more akin to a Marvel movie than a Star Wars movie.

    If anything, it was The Last Jedi that understood why the Jedi fell in the prequels and even followed George Lucas' guidelines for the sequels, whereas The Force Awakens ignored them.
    Besides, Johnson threw no plan out the window, there was no plan for SW 8 before he came on board. Even Daisy Ridley stated that no one knew who Rey was supposed to be while they were already filming Rise of the Skywalker.

    I think The Last Jedi was the one that has Marvel humor.

    I tend to agree there actually. The jokes in that one felt really forced and overworked whereas they were natural and charming in Awakens, I thought. Poe teasing the bad guy about not being able to hear him through his mask became a big overworked gag about radios cutting out in his X Wing etc. - I thought the gags fell flat more often and felt wisecrack-y like a Marvel.
    I guess we're in danger of going off topic on a Star Wars debate, as quite often happens! :D

    Yeah, for a minute, I worried that Amazon would give Bond a lightsaber and a car that can make the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs. ;-)
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    One thing need to not do with the next actor is do not strip Bond down. FFS every Bond movie in the Craig era was about stripping Bond down emotionally until there was nothing left literary.
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