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Oh I don't doubt there were all sorts of crisis meetings and fresh rounds of media training for him and lots of that stuff, they and the studio would have taken all of that extremely seriously. It would have been meltdown.
I certainly can’t imagine being in an interview setting quite like that. Looks awful.
This is incorrect.
The franchise had become very paint-by-numbers by DAD.
Craig definitely reinvigorated the entire franchise, with a sexuality and masculinity (him coming out of the ocean is the most obvious example) that was missing from Moore-Dalton-Brosnan. Props also to Eva Green here.
They were even talking about a Best Actor nomination for Craig for CR, something that had never happened with another Bond. Popular culture was noticing Bond again. Look up contemporaneous sources.
Like no Bond since Connery, Craig's Bond demanded that you sit up and pay attention.
Well here's him explaining the whole situation in various interviews after the event, personally I think it's reasonable (watch from 37.00 to 39.00 or so):
Oh yeah; and luckily Craig really seemed to enjoy the promotional tour for NTTD from what I saw in those interviews.
I find it refreshing how Craig is one of the few actors who doesn’t really seem to go on any sort of politically motivated rant or doesn’t really get involved with politics. Much as I adore Brosnan’s Bond - to be associated with RFK Jr. isn’t the best look for him (even though they’re both environmentalists.)
No; this is more your opinion and less actual facts. Claiming that Craig “redefined” the entire franchise based on his sexuality and masculinity is entirely inaccurate - especially when considering how much of a sex symbol Brosnan was considered to be in the 90’s. If anything, Brosnan did that first and before Craig. Hell Connery did it way back in the 60’s. Pop culture never stoped noticing Bond either. You may have but the rest of the world didn’t - as evidenced by how largely successful other Bonds films were. Pop culture was certainly paying attention when Bond was being redefined in the 70s and 90s. You may prefer Craig to the other Bonds, but let’s stop pretending he’s the only other Bond worth giving a damn about - that’s just fanboy nonsense and exactly what I was talking about earlier.
To be fair, Craig’s expressed views about Brexit (he thought Britain should remain in the EU and I think was actually quite vocal about it). I’m sure he’s said positive things about Obama too, at least in 2008.
He did, IRRC though, once claim politicians are s*itheads. Can’t argue with that.
And that means?
That Deke is correct in saying that every Bond actor since Connery has, at some point, been lauded as the best Bond actor since Connery; and yet, that each of us probably has a favourite who, when pressed, he will name the very best Bond actor since Connery; but also, that a fabulous actor like Dalton and a possibly great-Bond-in-the-making like Lazenby were mostly overlooked by audiences, despite their assets.
Personally, I think we should consider ourselves lucky with all the blokes who have played Bond so far. I honestly love them all; not because I'm easy to please, but because we truly got lucky with these six men. I call them "great", all of them. But, in my opinion, two of them were "superb". I take it we all have such favourites. That's what "it" means.
How many interviews did Craig do during his tenure as 007? And it's the wrist slashing comment that people feel they know who and what this guy is???
We have had Tom Cruise bouncing up and down on Oprah's couch, claiming his undying love for Katie Holmes.
We have Cruise going after Brooke Shields because she took meds after suffering post birth depression.
We've had Hugh Grant being rude to Ellen DeGeneres at the height of her powers.
Hugh Grant treating an Oscar Award interviewer like a bag of doggy doo-doo.
Vin Diesel famously hitting on a You Tuber during an interview...
There are some many bad interviews, with repeat offenders, and the wrist slashing comment is all one could find to throw shade on Craig?
How many interviews did Craig do as Bond? And all one can dig up is an exhausted actor, a few days after a long shoot saying, I'd rather slash my wrists ...If that's his only faux pas after hundreds and hundreds of interviews, over fifteen years, answering the same questions over and over and over, then he's got a pretty damn clean record, as far as I'm concerned.
On top of this: the quote is a decade old. One quote. Ten years old. Can't one find something else to hate on this guy for?
I find Hugh Grant to be a twit at times but come on Peter, being rude to Ellen DeGeneres certainly ISN’T a bad thing ;).
I get what you’re saying though on a larger scale - and hey at least Craig didn’t publicly advocate for domestic violence the way another Bond actor did…
It doesn't matter. All actors get tired of always doing the same thing. It's not a big deal.
I cut Craig some slack for the quote; it's a bit disrespectful when you read it and an odd decision to say that (it certainly didn't fit the context I'm used to hearing the phrase in!). Ultimately it's how he genuinely felt at that time, and he came back so why should I get worked up about it?
I think his defense in the documentary was a bit poor. Because no, I don't think runners post-marathon would "hate running." And they certainly wouldn't hate it strongly enough to say something like that. If he focused more on the physical injury side of things I could take his point
That's faulty logic. Other actors hit on people and were rude, so Craig was a saint. Like I said, I don't really care but that doesn't apply here
Nah, @echo is correct. DAD may have made a lot of money in its day, but it was another film I distinctly remember being heavily mocked at the time it came out. I became a Bond fan in the year 2000 and it was apparent at the time that while Brosnan himself was fairly popular, his films were not really highly regarded after GE. The idea that Bond was no longer cool, and became a parody of itself.
If you wanna talk about revisionism, one I’ve seen pop up is the idea that DAD was well received at the time of its release and all the bad reviews only came out around the time of CR. That’s false. Let’s take a trip down memory lane.
Here are the rotten tomatoes pages for all of Michael and Barbara’s run as producers. I used the archive site to try to get the best reflection of what the contemporary reviews were like at the times they came out, so there’s little to no retrospective reviews that change the score.
GE - 100%
TND - 61%
Granted, GE and TND came out before RT launched, so the earliest archived pages only had a few reviews added. Retrospective reviews would later be added to bring both scores to 80% and 57% respectively. I figured I’d include them anyway, especially since they had their highest scores in the earliest archives.
TWINE - 58%
DAD - 57%
As a Bond fan in 2002 I would think to myself “are critics being too harsh to Brosnan’s recent movies?” only to then watch DAD open with a CGI bullet traveling down the gun barrel. At least during the first half the movie seemed like it could be as good or even better than GE. But then Bond goes to Iceland and this exchange happens.
“I am Mr. Kil.”
“Now there’s a name to die for.”
CR - 94%
This is what folks mean when CR felt like the franchise was reinvigorated. After a slew of weak Brosnan entries, this was like a miracle.
QOS - 66%
And of course this felt like hitting the ground after only opening your parachute seconds before impact. Not rotten, but still a big drop.
SF - 93%
The most critically acclaimed Bond movie that fans love to gripe about as if there’s something to prove. “People only liked it because the Olympics” is my favorite rebuttal.
SP - 63%
It’s starting to feel like Star Trek’s once mythical even/odd thing. In this case, the even numbered Bonds for Craig are not as favored as the odd numbered entries.
NTTD - 84%
Like I was saying. And even if you prefer audience scores over critics, the audience scores aren’t actually that far apart from critics. At least when it comes to Bond, critics and audiences are generally on the same page more or less. That’s not always the case with some movies like THE LAST JEDI.
If this even/odd number thing pans out, that’s not looking good for Amazon. Maybe Barbara saw the pattern and decided to cash in her chips!
I think it was all Bourne's fault. Damon was younger than Brosnan. Vin Diesel was also younger. Hell, even Jason Statham.
Bond had become a middle-aged man surfing waves. They realized that they had to change.
But the movie was successful and it almost had a spin-off.
My point was that she was going to end the series with NTTD no matter what. That may be wrong, but based on what she's said and the lack of action after NTTD, I think it's highly plausible.
I meant the literal tiredness of the work it takes to star in a James Bond film. He had multiple injuries and was sumited to interventions because of them. He commited to each film like a true champion, and so it was only natural that he was exhausted.
You’ve missed my point. I wasn’t arguing against the success of the Craig era - merely the notion that Craig’s era was the only era that successfully reinvigorated the series outside of Connery’s to have some sort of real impact in terms of Pop Culture. A Bond film has never lost any money at the box office no matter the critical reception - Bond films have never stopped being big cultural events from the end of the Connery era until the beginning of Craig era which was what was echo was trying to imply. Some have made less money than others - but they’ve all been incredibly successful. Moore’s Bond certainly had a huge impact - as did Brosnan’s. They both reignited the franchise and brought the films to new heights - and were doing it decades before Craig. Add to that the notion that “Craig’s Bond made people stand where others hadn’t since Connery” - which is very much revisionism and obviously much more based in personal opinion rather than actual fact. So yes, he is wrong.
Ugh… I wasn’t calling him a saint. That wasn’t my point at all.
Terrible. She doesn't want to do anything with the series, but then wants to be overly-protective as if the last film was anyway conservative.
The point debated was that Craig didn't want to play Bond, publicly said so (and according to some, performed as so), and was thus a worse ambassador than Brosnan (and Brosnan comes in when discussing whether he was hard done by).
Your response was: other non-Bond actors have done unsavoury things, Craig has done many interviews and only has one blemish, and the quote was ten years old.
All facts, but none relevant to Brosnan's predicament vs Craig's, nor whether Craig carried this attitude into his films, nor whether Craig has a black mark in comparison to other Bonds nor if he was let off lightly for something like this.
I don't think the argument was very related to the discussion to be honest and by missing any tie-in to the discussion it very much feels like a deflection.
Sigh… I was scanning the comments. Perhaps I should have spelt this out in a more clear manner: I was responding to the fact that that one quote keeps being brought up to prove something about Craig and his character and his affection, or lack thereof for the role of James Bond.
No deflection was made, nor intended.