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  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    I agree a bit. But we're not casting Hamlet here are we? I thought he was great as Superman, Solo and August Walker. And phenomenal as the Witcher despite the show being very poor.
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
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    Scaramanga1974 wrote: »
    Cavill is too wooden

    When you're looking for suave, easy going charm, not really an actor who leaps to mind.
  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
    edited March 19 Posts: 132
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    Daltonforyou wrote: »
    Once upon a time Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan might have been called obvious and unimaginative choices for Bond...

    I'd take Moore and Brosnan over Cavill any day, and Brosnan's my least favourite Bond.

    +1.

    Plus Cavill is too old.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Kindly, who would you all suggest otherwise?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited March 19 Posts: 6,588
    The big three "it" guys, O'Connor, Mescal, and Dickinson, are much better choices.

    https://www.thecut.com/article/harris-dickinson-babygirl-paul-mescal-josh-oconnor-leading-men-hollywood.html?origSession=D231116iJYPfH0nEG8pPIR7f9mkVl0DSk5PgLjldh1rNraFpf0=&_gl=1*o2q0qs*FPAU*Mjg5OTg3NjAuMTczODI2ODY2Nw..*_ga*MjExMDA1MjI2LjE3MDkyOTYxMTk.*_ga_DNE38RK1HX*MTc0MjM1MjQxNi44NjQuMS4xNzQyMzUyODM4LjAuMC41ODA5NTY3MzA.*_fplc*bzh6d1poMyUyQjklMkJSS09yZG5RbGJDWTJjSndVRnBnaVFuY3dTOHdEaEZQZzhJVzczeWUxVTl4ZkFieHJIT21xUHVtbzA2YTJvdmN0JTJCcncwNXhUTFVDY3ZUb2VKVWhEcUdmZVl4SXVlTlU5RHd1ME9ZRHhkbFNSREFzazhnYTVBJTNEJTNE
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    We already experimented with seeing a James Bond played by a wooden male model once, we don’t need Cavill to bring that back for Bond.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    We already experimented with seeing a James Bond played by a wooden male model once, we don’t need Cavill to bring that back for Bond.

    Being handsome is the best weapon the new Bond can have!

    You may not be a better actor than Craig, but you can be more attractive.

    I don't need a poor man's Craig.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    It’s not about being handsome, it’s about having charisma.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    It’s not about being handsome, it’s about having charisma.

    Oh, it's about being handsome too. It's Bond after all.


    Anyway, Cavill has enough charisma. He is the devil you know.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 19 Posts: 4,850
    I suppose ‘handsome’ can look quite different from person to person. If I were going to say what’s comparable about, say, Craig, Connery, and Brosnan’s Bond, it’s not that they have the same type of good looks. But they do have a very similar sense of presence, masculinity, and sex appeal.

    Cavill’s ok in that general area I guess. He has a bit of charisma and star quality, but I’m not sure if it’s ever fully come out in anything I’ve seen him in. He’s a bit limited in that way as a potential Bond.
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
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    Obviously Bond is going to be handsome, even if unconventionally so. But lacking charm, wit, and a sense of danger, it's just another boring pretty face.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Paul Mescal is the only one of those three I would consider. The rest look like skinny models or heavies.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    Obviously Bond is going to be handsome, even if unconventionally so. But lacking charm, wit, and a sense of danger, it's just another boring pretty face.

    Sure, they are actors, none of them are going to be really ugly but the new Bond has to offer something different to Craig.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited March 19 Posts: 9,536
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Obviously Bond is going to be handsome, even if unconventionally so. But lacking charm, wit, and a sense of danger, it's just another boring pretty face.

    Sure, they are actors, none of them are going to be really ugly but the new Bond has to offer something different to Craig.

    But going the route of Cavill ain’t the answer.

    And it’s kind of a redundant statement that the new actor has to offer something different to Craig. The suggestions here don’t feel like anyone is pining after Craig 2.0.

    I’m not interested at all in Amazon-Bond, but I am interested in how they put together their talent (above and below the line). Amazon has all the money in the world, but they’re about to embark on a journey that I’m guessing looked easy from far, but is far from easy.

    My hopes are in the toilet. So, no where to go but up 😂.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,588
    peter wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Obviously Bond is going to be handsome, even if unconventionally so. But lacking charm, wit, and a sense of danger, it's just another boring pretty face.

    Sure, they are actors, none of them are going to be really ugly but the new Bond has to offer something different to Craig.

    But going the route of Cavill ain’t the answer.

    And it’s kind of a redundant statement that the new actor has to offer something different to Craig. The suggestions here don’t feel like anyone is pining after Craig 2.0.

    I’m not interested at all in Amazon-Bond, but I am interested in how they put together their talent (above and below the line). Amazon has all the money in the world, but they’re about to embark on a journey that I’m guessing looked easy from far, but is far from easy.

    My hopes are in the toilet. So, no where to go but up 😂.

    I agree with you. I'm still quite saddened by Eon selling. I never thought it would happen.

    Far from Easy would be a good title.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Same. I don't feel any more hopeful or any less negative about it now than I did when it was announced. I just don't see how having what BB called Amazon's 'f--ing idiots' at the helm can be a good thing for Bond. Quite the opposite.
  • dewiparrydewiparry
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    Oh just throw me in as the scapegoat.
  • BMB007BMB007
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    peter wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Obviously Bond is going to be handsome, even if unconventionally so. But lacking charm, wit, and a sense of danger, it's just another boring pretty face.

    Sure, they are actors, none of them are going to be really ugly but the new Bond has to offer something different to Craig.

    But going the route of Cavill ain’t the answer.

    And it’s kind of a redundant statement that the new actor has to offer something different to Craig. The suggestions here don’t feel like anyone is pining after Craig 2.0.

    I’m not interested at all in Amazon-Bond, but I am interested in how they put together their talent (above and below the line). Amazon has all the money in the world, but they’re about to embark on a journey that I’m guessing looked easy from far, but is far from easy.

    My hopes are in the toilet. So, no where to go but up 😂.

    They are in for a big surprise, I think, about the difficulty of making a successful movie of this magnitude.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    BMB007 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Obviously Bond is going to be handsome, even if unconventionally so. But lacking charm, wit, and a sense of danger, it's just another boring pretty face.

    Sure, they are actors, none of them are going to be really ugly but the new Bond has to offer something different to Craig.

    But going the route of Cavill ain’t the answer.

    And it’s kind of a redundant statement that the new actor has to offer something different to Craig. The suggestions here don’t feel like anyone is pining after Craig 2.0.

    I’m not interested at all in Amazon-Bond, but I am interested in how they put together their talent (above and below the line). Amazon has all the money in the world, but they’re about to embark on a journey that I’m guessing looked easy from far, but is far from easy.

    My hopes are in the toilet. So, no where to go but up 😂.

    They are in for a big surprise, I think, about the difficulty of making a successful movie of this magnitude.
    I do see a parallel with the British TV series The Avengers. After Diana Rigg left, the bosses, who had been uncomfortable with Brian Clemens tendency to push the show to extremes of style, decided to fire him and fellow producer Albert Fennell, and put the reigns in the hands of someone who would be more malleable.

    Turns out making The Avengers work wasn’t as easy as they thought, and the first three episodes shot were so bad they had to go cap in hand back to Clemens and Fennelll and ask them to return!

    I wonder if something similar might happen with Bond…
  • shimplyshocking007shimplyshocking007
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    Cavill is looking a bit haggard personally.
  • Since62Since62
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    echo wrote: »
    The big three "it" guys, O'Connor, Mescal, and Dickinson, are much better choices.

    https://www.thecut.com/article/harris-dickinson-babygirl-paul-mescal-josh-oconnor-leading-men-hollywood.html?origSession=D231116iJYPfH0nEG8pPIR7f9mkVl0DSk5PgLjldh1rNraFpf0=&_gl=1*o2q0qs*FPAU*Mjg5OTg3NjAuMTczODI2ODY2Nw..*_ga*MjExMDA1MjI2LjE3MDkyOTYxMTk.*_ga_DNE38RK1HX*MTc0MjM1MjQxNi44NjQuMS4xNzQyMzUyODM4LjAuMC41ODA5NTY3MzA.*_fplc*bzh6d1poMyUyQjklMkJSS09yZG5RbGJDWTJjSndVRnBnaVFuY3dTOHdEaEZQZzhJVzczeWUxVTl4ZkFieHJIT21xUHVtbzA2YTJvdmN0JTJCcncwNXhUTFVDY3ZUb2VKVWhEcUdmZVl4SXVlTlU5RHd1ME9ZRHhkbFNSREFzazhnYTVBJTNEJTNE

    Someone new, fine, but any of these three in particular ? Oh, no, thank you.
    Dickinson looks like a young lad.
    O'Connor...not handsome.
    But at least they have "vertical" faces ! Mescal has a round face. NOT Bondian.
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    Which should come first, since a lot people are talking about casting, hiring the right producer or hiring the right actor?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    How can you cast without a producer?
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    edited March 21 Posts: 1,755
    mtm wrote: »
    How can you cast without a producer?

    only if the actor is also the producer.

    The question really is who comes first, the producer or the director.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    The producer.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,344
    mtm wrote: »
    The producer.

    Totally agree.
    Where’s @peter when I need him
  • ZekidkZekidk
    edited March 21 Posts: 3,289
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Obviously Bond is going to be handsome, even if unconventionally so. But lacking charm, wit, and a sense of danger, it's just another boring pretty face.

    Sure, they are actors, none of them are going to be really ugly but the new Bond has to offer something different to Craig.

    I'm probably not going to like it, but they have to cater to a younger audience, if the franchise is to survive. Taron Egerton could be a smart choice. He's got the age, the looks, the accent, and the acting skills to nail it.
    taron-egerton-in-the-apple-tv-series-black-bird.jpg
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I wouldn't be massively excited but yeah, far from being an impossible pick.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    They could do better, but they could also do far worse.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    It's the sort of pick I could imagine Amazon going for: absolutely fine and as you say, there are worse options out there, but underwhelming and slightly unimaginative. I hope they surprise me a bit more.

    We probably should be considering him more as a prospective candidate though. I don't think Eon would have gone for him, but we have no idea where Amazon will go.
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