EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Heyman and Pascal confirmed as producers)

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  • Posts: 631
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    https://x.com/Borys_Kit/status/1904586348914500035

    Interestingly, Borys Kit adds their deal is only for one film as opposed to an overall.

    Is Amazon effectively signing them to "show us" deal where they have to prove they get it right before there's a longer commitment?

    There are no more longer term commitments. This is the important change to understand. Everything is film to film now. There are no more permanent people.

    Is this speculation, or coming from a source?

    Doesn't seem accurate. I can't think of another major cinematic brand that really does that, at least not at the producing level. Feige @ Marvel, Gunn/Safran @ DC, Kennedy @ LF, etc.

    Creative teams may not get multi-film deals, but top-level producers—I'd assume—would expect more security. And I don't imagine Amazon would want the headache of replacing them each time they want to make something with the Bond property.

    Kennedy is a different situation because the sale of LF had a bunch of uniqueness to it. Let's take Feige for a moment. If "Iron Man" had bombed, would he have had as much power? This kind of role exists because of success.

    We don't need to look too far to see an example. Zack Snyder had all the power in the world until "Batman v Superman" didn't crack a billion. A year later he was fired. If "Superman" (2025) underperforms, Gunn will have the same fate.

    That's essentially what I'm suggesting. Amazon my be dangling a similar long-term prospect to Pascal and Heyman, but contingent on Bond 26's outcome.

    Yep, everything is always a contingency. Colin Trevorrow was well into preproduction for his "Star Wars" until he had a movie bomb and Disney got cold feet.
  • RyanRyan Canada
    Posts: 695
    It's a trivial thing but I'm genuinely curious as to what the opening credit will say.

    Assuming they keep to the tropes and format, will it read "Amazon MGM Studios presents [actor] as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007..."

    Or "Amy Pascal and David Heyman present..."

    Or something else entirely?

    I suppose there will be no obligation to continue keeping Cubby's name in there, nor will it make much sense because it's no longer his EON Productions making them. It'll all be very strange. However, I remain cautiously optimistic.
  • SeanoSeano Minnesota. No, it's not always cold.
    Posts: 50
    NTTD broke it up. First part was "Albert R. Broccoli's EON Productions presents", then "Daniel Craig", then "as Ian Fleming's James Bond OO7 in" and finally "No Time To Die".

    So I imagine they could just adjust part 1 to be "Amazon MGM Studios in association with Pascal Pictures and Heyday Films presents" or "Amazon MGM Studios presents a Pascal Pictures and Heyday Films Production" or something similar.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,459
    Ryan wrote: »
    It's a trivial thing but I'm genuinely curious as to what the opening credit will say.

    Assuming they keep to the tropes and format, will it read "Amazon MGM Studios presents [actor] as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007..."

    Or "Amy Pascal and David Heyman present..."

    Or something else entirely?

    I suppose there will be no obligation to continue keeping Cubby's name in there, nor will it make much sense because it's no longer his EON Productions making them. It'll all be very strange. However, I remain cautiously optimistic.

    I think it’ll remain “Albert R Broccoli’s Eon Productions Presents” for purposes of legacy. After all, Eon itself is still owned by the Broccolis and the new producers have been hired to continue that legacy.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    Posts: 769
    Anybody think Broccoli will get an executive producer credit?
  • Posts: 1,948
    With Heyman on board, I hope they go with Cauron to direct since he has already expressed interest in coming on board.
  • Posts: 422
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    https://x.com/Borys_Kit/status/1904586348914500035

    Interestingly, Borys Kit adds their deal is only for one film as opposed to an overall.

    Is Amazon effectively signing them to "show us" deal where they have to prove they get it right before there's a longer commitment?

    There are no more longer term commitments. This is the important change to understand. Everything is film to film now. There are no more permanent people.

    Is this speculation, or coming from a source?

    Doesn't seem accurate. I can't think of another major cinematic brand that really does that, at least not at the producing level. Feige @ Marvel, Gunn/Safran @ DC, Kennedy @ LF, etc.

    Creative teams may not get multi-film deals, but top-level producers—I'd assume—would expect more security. And I don't imagine Amazon would want the headache of replacing them each time they want to make something with the Bond property.

    Kennedy is a different situation because the sale of LF had a bunch of uniqueness to it. Let's take Feige for a moment. If "Iron Man" had bombed, would he have had as much power? This kind of role exists because of success.

    We don't need to look too far to see an example. Zack Snyder had all the power in the world until "Batman v Superman" didn't crack a billion. A year later he was fired. If "Superman" (2025) underperforms, Gunn will have the same fate.

    That's essentially what I'm suggesting. Amazon my be dangling a similar long-term prospect to Pascal and Heyman, but contingent on Bond 26's outcome.

    That sounds realistic and smart on Amazon’s part. Much like Broccoli herself, Pascal and Heyman are two of the most successful independent producers working today. Ironically, even though Pascal and Brocccoli seem to have had a fruitful, working relationship, Broccoli hated Pascal’s mentor, John Calley. He was a prolific producer who, as the head of MGM for a time, helped revive the franchise in GoldenEye.

    Bond 26, no matter how it turns out, is shaping up to be one of the most anticipated films of the decade. At this point, box office predictions is just wishful thinking, but I truly believe that Bond 26 will hit big. It’s a shame that neither Craig in Casino Royale or Judi Dench in Skyfall got Oscar nominations. Although Craig was nominated for a BAFTA. But with someone like Cuarón or Nolan directing, we may see a bigger, positive reception to Bond 26 than for CR or SF.


  • Excellent news. Now please get Bond right in the same vein as Daniel Craig. Ie a proper actor unlike a lot of the male models being touted.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 5,690
    Wasn't Amy head of Sony when the hacks saw the light?

    I would hope that Broccoli gets a producer credit. I would love if they respected the legacy enough to have Albert's name somewhere in the mix. I think it is very likely Amazon Studios gets the top billing and rightfully so.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 25 Posts: 8,778
    Now that we have confirmed producers, expect ALOT to happen very quickly. It's very likely that, as per rumours, a script has already been worked on, and things can move ahead in the coming months. Essentially all barriers have been removed, and Amazon has already been dying to get the next film out for the past 3 years. After this news I wouldn't rule out a Summer 2027 release date.
  • Posts: 380
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Bond wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    “James Bond is one of the most iconic characters in the history of cinema,” said Amy Pascal and David Heyman. “We are humbled to follow in the footsteps of Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson who made so many extraordinary films and honored and excited to keep the spirit of Bond very much alive as he embarks on his next adventure.”[/i]
    Small thing I know, but I'm very reassured to see them say "HE embarks on HIS next journey"...

    Does that mean Bond will have he/him pronouns? ;)

    Yes. And they're making him cisgender.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,580
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Bond wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    “James Bond is one of the most iconic characters in the history of cinema,” said Amy Pascal and David Heyman. “We are humbled to follow in the footsteps of Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson who made so many extraordinary films and honored and excited to keep the spirit of Bond very much alive as he embarks on his next adventure.”[/i]
    Small thing I know, but I'm very reassured to see them say "HE embarks on HIS next journey"...

    Does that mean Bond will have he/him pronouns? ;)

    Yes. And they're making him cisgender.

    James Bond (He/Him) Will Return in The Gender Agenda.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 8,778
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Bond wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    “James Bond is one of the most iconic characters in the history of cinema,” said Amy Pascal and David Heyman. “We are humbled to follow in the footsteps of Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson who made so many extraordinary films and honored and excited to keep the spirit of Bond very much alive as he embarks on his next adventure.”[/i]
    Small thing I know, but I'm very reassured to see them say "HE embarks on HIS next journey"...

    Does that mean Bond will have he/him pronouns? ;)

    Yes. And they're making him cisgender.

    James Bond (He/Him) Will Return in The Gender Agenda.

    SPECTRUM
  • Posts: 12,621
    I think 2027 can happen.
  • Posts: 587
    Wow. Amazon is moving fast!
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,580
    Wow. Amazon is moving fast!

    It's Amazon Prime: Next Day Delivery.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    Posts: 1,045
    As same source also mentioned the Cuaron story, all eyes are on him. Would be nice to see Mexico City in Bond again, but since that was only 2 films ago I wonder if we'd see elsewhere in MX? San Miguel de Allende? Guanajuato? Oaxaca?
  • Posts: 2,104
    If these two producers are only signed on for one film. Does that mean whoever signs up the play Bond will always be signed for one film?
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,200
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Wow. Amazon is moving fast!

    It's Amazon Prime: Next Day Delivery.

    Only if you pay extra.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,200
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Bond wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    “James Bond is one of the most iconic characters in the history of cinema,” said Amy Pascal and David Heyman. “We are humbled to follow in the footsteps of Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson who made so many extraordinary films and honored and excited to keep the spirit of Bond very much alive as he embarks on his next adventure.”[/i]
    Small thing I know, but I'm very reassured to see them say "HE embarks on HIS next journey"...

    Does that mean Bond will have he/him pronouns? ;)

    Yes. And they're making him cisgender.

    Whatever one thinks of it: There's not going to be anyone in today's America making a commercially-oriented film where the hero is non-binary. Too much backlash. (And yes, I think they should keep James Bond as a British - meaning also white - male if he is still meant to be the same James Bond, while they are free to create another character having another colour or gender doing the same stuff. If the stories are good, count me in.)
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    Posts: 769
    Are you guys from Mars? What are you all talking about?

    Bond must be tall, dark and handsome. Any of this crap must be ignored, shot down and allowed to disappear from public consciousness.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    Posts: 8,459
    Anybody think Broccoli will get an executive producer credit?

    I think that’s without question. Sort of like how Christopher Nolan got an executive producer credit for the DCEU.
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    If these two producers are only signed on for one film. Does that mean whoever signs up the play Bond will always be signed for one film?

    Probably not. Actors are typically signed in for multi film contracts, and if the first film or two just happens to perform horribly at the box office Amazon could either let the contract expire or just pay him off to walk away.
  • edited March 25 Posts: 6,811
    I'm very happy with the news. Really happy. Fingers crossed for Heyman's friend, Cuarón, as the director. He can very well bring along some Potter talent as well. Gary Oldman as M? Or Thewlis. Harry Melling as a villain? Superb actor. Fiona Shaw! Or even Emma Thompson. Maybe Steve Kloves as a writer? Cuarón can very well double up as cinematographer.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    Posts: 2,734
    It's nice to have some news on Bond 26. I'm still nervous about the future under Amazon, but Pascal and Heyman seem like good choices
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,401
    I'm guessing announcing the writers and director would be the next thing, before announcing James Bond himself. So it's fair to say we would know who Bond 7 is, in a couple of months.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,449
    I wonder if the introduction of the new actor will be handled as an event as EoN did?
  • Posts: 6,811
    talos7 wrote: »
    I wonder if the introduction of the new actor will be handled as an event as EoN did?
    Oh, I hope so. Those press conferences were part of it all, big bold parties for us fans.
  • Posts: 2,498
    I'll be honest, idk if you'll share my opinion, but to me the Bond franchise ended.
    This is just like the Post-Fleming books.

    They'll exist. Some might be good. Some might be utter crap. Some I may enjoy while everyone hates and vice-versa.

    Watching a new Bond film will not hit the same 'high' that the official movies did. No matter what they'll do I won't be as emotional or opinionated about it, cause like I said, to me the official Bond franchise ended and now we are seeing "alternative universe". Just like there are new comic books. They might be good they might be bad. Or the new books. Or the new 00 books. Or... whatever, you get me.

    Not too optimistic about the producer choices tbh, but we'll see.

    My initial thoughts when Amazon bought it was that they'll GO HARD on the first movie, trying to make the most "fanservice" movie possible. I expect(ed?) them to pick people you always wanted to see in the franchise but they never got the chance. Won't be shocked if they even get Cavill tbh. Guy Ritchie to direct? Danny Boyle? Lana Del Rey song? Sydney Sweeney as a Bond girl? Idris Elba as a double 0 agent? M and Q stay the same but they get a new Moneypenny who won't be as prominent of a character? No idea what's the general consensus on who people want as a villain but you will probably get it. Bryan Cranston? Whatever fits the fan service, we'll probably get it.

    That was my opinion at least.

    Maybe I am so wrong.

    Either way.

    New Bond movie/franchise. Sure, ok, whatever, it's not like they'll ruin the original one.

    It's like getting your fave book adapted. It will probably be bad. It probably won't capture the soul. It will miss the mark and won't understand why fans love it. But it will exist and hey, if you're lucky it might be decent. But no matter what, it won't be the original and no matter what you'll still have your fave book, so...


  • edited March 26 Posts: 422
    dragonsky wrote: »
    I'll be honest, idk if you'll share my opinion, but to me the Bond franchise ended.
    This is just like the Post-Fleming books.

    They'll exist. Some might be good. Some might be utter crap. Some I may enjoy while everyone hates and vice-versa.

    Watching a new Bond film will not hit the same 'high' that the official movies did. No matter what they'll do I won't be as emotional or opinionated about it, cause like I said, to me the official Bond franchise ended and now we are seeing "alternative universe". Just like there are new comic books. They might be good they might be bad. Or the new books. Or the new 00 books. Or... whatever, you get me.

    Not too optimistic about the producer choices tbh, but we'll see.

    My initial thoughts when Amazon bought it was that they'll GO HARD on the first movie, trying to make the most "fanservice" movie possible. I expect(ed?) them to pick people you always wanted to see in the franchise but they never got the chance. Won't be shocked if they even get Cavill tbh. Guy Ritchie to direct? Danny Boyle? Lana Del Rey song? Sydney Sweeney as a Bond girl? Idris Elba as a double 0 agent? M and Q stay the same but they get a new Moneypenny who won't be as prominent of a character? No idea what's the general consensus on who people want as a villain but you will probably get it. Bryan Cranston? Whatever fits the fan service, we'll probably get it.

    That was my opinion at least.

    Maybe I am so wrong.

    Either way.

    New Bond movie/franchise. Sure, ok, whatever, it's not like they'll ruin the original one.

    It's like getting your fave book adapted. It will probably be bad. It probably won't capture the soul. It will miss the mark and won't understand why fans love it. But it will exist and hey, if you're lucky it might be decent. But no matter what, it won't be the original and no matter what you'll still have your fave book, so...


    That’s a perfectly valid opinion to have. I can’t say that I can’t relate, but I am hopeful. Amazon choosing these two producers gives me hope. Pascal and Heyman are intrenched Hollywood talent; operating at a height that few reach.

    Amazon’s commitment to theatrical releases gives me hope as does, for now, the singular focus on producing and releasing a film. The spin-offs are coming but Amazon has been deliberate and careful in not floating such things—yet. SONY would have already announced the release date of “Goldfinger II” if Bond was shepherded as haphazardly as Spider-Man.

    Amazon’s global reach gives me hope. We all know the ever threatening downside to all of this. But the sword has double edges. The upside is that unlike anything else Amazon owns in the entertainment space, Bond is not simply the crown jewel, he wears the crown. Bond’s international popularity matched with Amazon’s worldwide reach makes the mouth water with anticipation of Bond’s renaissance—a product and marketing renaissance, at least.

    It gives me hope that Bond, like Star Wars, holds the attention of many talented filmmakers and artisans. Can one imagine a world, for instance, where Shinichirō Watanabe (director of Cowboy Beebop and Samurai Champloo) creates a James Bond anime? I can, and I like the thought.

    There’s a lot that could go wrong but there’s a lot that could go right. We’re on the cusp of Bond not simply being back but possibly being the biggest and best and most anticipated-back he’s ever had.

    I’m calling a billion international gross right now. Crazy, I know. Too early, I know. Moviegoing isn’t as big as it used to be, I know. But Bond survived, and thrived, after Connery leaving, Lazenby’s hiring (great Bond nonetheless), Connery leaving again, Saltzman selling his shares to UA, the post-Moonraker hangover, Connery’s return, Kevin McClory, Timothy Dalton’s Luke warm reception (great Bond nonetheless), a six-year hiatus, and the vitriol spewed by many before Casino Royale became one of the great action films of the 21st century and, maybe, the best Bond film of all time.

    All that to say, we Bond fans have survived worse doomsday scenarios and, based on the news today, and with all due respect to the icons Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson, it ain’t all that bad.

  • Posts: 6,811
    Burgess wrote: »
    dragonsky wrote: »
    I'll be honest, idk if you'll share my opinion, but to me the Bond franchise ended.
    This is just like the Post-Fleming books.

    They'll exist. Some might be good. Some might be utter crap. Some I may enjoy while everyone hates and vice-versa.

    Watching a new Bond film will not hit the same 'high' that the official movies did. No matter what they'll do I won't be as emotional or opinionated about it, cause like I said, to me the official Bond franchise ended and now we are seeing "alternative universe". Just like there are new comic books. They might be good they might be bad. Or the new books. Or the new 00 books. Or... whatever, you get me.

    Not too optimistic about the producer choices tbh, but we'll see.

    My initial thoughts when Amazon bought it was that they'll GO HARD on the first movie, trying to make the most "fanservice" movie possible. I expect(ed?) them to pick people you always wanted to see in the franchise but they never got the chance. Won't be shocked if they even get Cavill tbh. Guy Ritchie to direct? Danny Boyle? Lana Del Rey song? Sydney Sweeney as a Bond girl? Idris Elba as a double 0 agent? M and Q stay the same but they get a new Moneypenny who won't be as prominent of a character? No idea what's the general consensus on who people want as a villain but you will probably get it. Bryan Cranston? Whatever fits the fan service, we'll probably get it.

    That was my opinion at least.

    Maybe I am so wrong.

    Either way.

    New Bond movie/franchise. Sure, ok, whatever, it's not like they'll ruin the original one.

    It's like getting your fave book adapted. It will probably be bad. It probably won't capture the soul. It will miss the mark and won't understand why fans love it. But it will exist and hey, if you're lucky it might be decent. But no matter what, it won't be the original and no matter what you'll still have your fave book, so...


    That’s a perfectly valid opinion to have. I can’t say that I can’t relate, but I am hopeful. Amazon choosing these two producers gives me hope. Pascal and Heyman are intrenched Hollywood talent; operating at a height that few reach.

    Amazon’s commitment to theatrical releases gives me hope as does, for now, the singular focus on producing and releasing a film. The spin-offs are coming but Amazon has been deliberate and careful in not floating such things—yet. SONY would have already announced the release date of “Goldfinger II” if Bond was shepherded as haphazardly as Spider-Man.

    Amazon’s global reach gives me hope. We all know the ever threatening downside to all of this. But the sword has double edges. The upside is that unlike anything else Amazon owns in the entertainment space, Bond is not simply the crown jewel, he wears the crown. Bond’s international popularity matched with Amazon’s worldwide reach makes the mouth water with anticipation at Bond’s renaissance—a product and marketing renaissance, at least.

    It gives me hope that Bond, like Star Wars, holds the attention of many talented filmmakers and artisans. Can one imagine a world, for instance, where Shinichirō Watanabe (director of Cowboy Beebop and Samurai Champloo) creates a James Bond anime? I can, and I like the thought.

    There’s a lot that could go wrong but there’s a lot that could go right. We’re on the cusp of Bond not simply being back but possibly being the biggest and best and most anticipated-back he’s ever had.

    I’m calling a billion international gross right now. Crazy, I know. Too early, I know. Moviegoing isn’t as big as it used to be, I know. But Bond survived, and thrived, after Connery leaving, Lazenby’s hiring (great Bond nonetheless), Connery leaving again, Saltzman selling his shares to UA, the post-Moonraker hangover, Connery’s return, Kevin McClory, Timothy Dalton’s Luke warm reception (great Bond nonetheless), a six-year hiatus, and the vitriol spewed by many before Casino Royale became one of the great action films of the 21st century and, maybe, the best Bond film of all time.

    All that to say, we Bond fans have survived worse doomsday scenarios and, based on the news today, and with all due respect to the icons Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson, it ain’t all that bad.

    Thank you for your uplifting post. I wholeheartedly agree and share your hopes.
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