Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Posts: 695
    mtm wrote: »
    He was in Furiosa too, wasn't he? Still haven't caught that. He is really good and does seem to be rising in profile, I don't mind the idea at all.
    Mind you, I do like the old style of getting an excellent Euro character actor in maybe rather than a Brit, it's worked so well quite a few times.
    I don't know how I forgot to mention that, but yes, he was the male lead in Furiosa, and he was quite good.

  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @FrankXavier Mr. Burke is indeed very busy. You’ll soon see him in the Blade Runner 2099 TV series … he’s been shooting it for most of the past six months. Not sure when it’s premiering… I imagine some time in autumn.

    He’s a strong actor.
  • edited March 30 Posts: 6,811
    peter wrote: »
    @FrankXavier Mr. Burke is indeed very busy. You’ll soon see him in the Blade Runner 2099 TV series … he’s been shooting it for most of the past six months. Not sure when it’s premiering… I imagine some time in autumn.

    He’s a strong actor.

    I'd love him as a villain. Brilliant actor, with an undeniable presence and charisma.

    Gary Oldman as M would also be incredible casting (specially because of Slow Horses).
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 30 Posts: 5,993
    So, I went back and found who the top five of the elimination game we played over a year ago were, though this does not include "none of the above" which was technically in fourth place.

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    1) Leo Suter
    2) Theo James
    3) Callum Turner
    4) Aiden Turner
    5) Sam Claflin
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    I strongly hope Leo gets the role. He's the right age and is by far the best candidate I've seen who isn't approaching 40.
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    If he were picked I’d give him the benefit of the doubt, as I would do anyone that’s picked for this role. But I really don’t get a strong screen presence from him unfortunately. I just don’t see anything special about him as an actor, and as I said I tend to forget what he even looks like. Honestly happy to be proven wrong though.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 31 Posts: 5,993
    For me, I'd watch any of these guys, but to get more specific...

    While I’m not as familiar with Leo Suter's career as actor, his strikingly classic good looks kinda border on an almost too-polished aesthetic for Bond, for me. He looks almost too much like a "classical leading man"... I know some will take issue with this, but again I'd still be interested if he was cast.

    My personal preferences lean more toward Sam Claflin, Callum Turner, and Theo James. I once questioned Theo’s range, but after The Monkey, it’s clear there’s more depth to his talent than I initially assumed, making me curious about what he could bring to the role, even if I do still worry his James Bond would basically be his character from The Gentleman.

    Aidan Turner, on the other hand, feels like a name that has been circulating for too long; at this point, the idea lacks excitement for me. His performance in And Then There Were None already gave us a version of Bond that, while competent, didn’t leave me clamoring for more.
  • Posts: 65
    If we all chant Dewi For Bond, we might just get some magic going.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I think there's plenty more candidates than on that short list too: Harris Dickinson, Aaron Pierre, Josh O'Connor, Sope Dirisu, Taron Egerton, Jack Lowden etc.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Are we sure they aren't going to push for an already established name as the first Amazon Bond? Meaning Paul Mescal or Nicholas Hoult.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Oh yes, I knew I was forgetting some! :D
  • Posts: 1,716
    ugh...come on...with at least four of these names a round face, wild teeth, Dumbo ears do not a Bond make
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    So, I went back and found who the top five of the elimination game we played over a year ago were, though this does not include "none of the above" which was technically in fourth place.

    pokodOR.jpeg
    1) Leo Suter
    2) Theo James
    3) Callum Turner
    4) Aiden Turner
    5) Sam Claflin

    While I prefer some more than others, I would not be unhappy if any one of these five were cast.

    With that said screen tests could eliminate all of them.

  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    I would say four out of the six Bonds have been classically handsome. Lazenby, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan all fit that bill.
  • edited March 31 Posts: 4,930
    Maybe. I guess... But I’d say all of them have look different and distinct from each other regardless.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Maybe. I guess... But I’d say all of them have look different and distinct from each other regardless.

    They don't look identical of course, but they're all of a type. Generally I think a lot of male Bond fans want him to look roughly like the comic-book depiction of Bruce Wayne:
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    It's an idealised version of a hero, and lots of us were brought up on that sort of image. You may not want that yourself, but I don't think you should have any trouble understanding what some of the guys here are talking about.
  • edited March 31 Posts: 4,930
    007HallY wrote: »
    Maybe. I guess... But I’d say all of them have look different and distinct from each other regardless.

    They don't look identical of course, but they're all of a type. Generally I think a lot of male Bond fans want him to look roughly like the comic-book depiction of Bruce Wayne:
    zstiKti.jpg
    It's an idealised version of a hero, and lots of us were brought up on that sort of image. You may not want that yourself, but I don't think you should have any trouble understanding what some of the guys here are talking about.

    I don’t really care if the next actor fits into that broad ‘type’ or is more of a Craig or Connery ‘left field’ pick personally. It’s more about what the actor will bring to the role. It also negates that every actor is different and brings something different to the table naturally. I don’t really see the point in wishing for a hypothetical actor who fits this very vague mould.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    As long as I can buy that women will be attracted to him, I don't need him to look like a comic book character.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Unfortunately, I see that as a problem with some of the names being bandied about. Not to mention, theres different kinds of women out there.
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    Personally, I think it’s the less archetypical stuff that makes every Bond actor special. I don’t think Connery would have been a better Bond with a more refined, clipped English accent or more Hoagey Carmichael esque facial features for example.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Personally, I think it’s the less archetypical stuff that makes every Bond actor special. I don’t think Connery would have been a better Bond with a more refined, clipped English accent or more Hoagey Carmichael esque facial features for example.

    So true. Oddly true.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Personally, I think it’s the less archetypical stuff that makes every Bond actor special. I don’t think Connery would have been a better Bond with a more refined, clipped English accent or more Hoagey Carmichael esque facial features for example.

    Agreed, but Connery was certainly not ugly. He was still very handsome just not in the classical style.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Personally, I think it’s the less archetypical stuff that makes every Bond actor special. I don’t think Connery would have been a better Bond with a more refined, clipped English accent or more Hoagey Carmichael esque facial features for example.

    Yes exactly. If you look at a lot of movie stars they are actually quite distinctive-looking and I think Connery fits into that; your TV action series stars are often quite blandly good-looking and more forgettable as such. To be honest, Roger probably fits into that to some extent.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited March 31 Posts: 2,407
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Personally, I think it’s the less archetypical stuff that makes every Bond actor special. I don’t think Connery would have been a better Bond with a more refined, clipped English accent or more Hoagey Carmichael esque facial features for example.

    Yes exactly. If you look at a lot of movie stars they are actually quite distinctive-looking and I think Connery fits into that; your TV action series stars are often quite blandly good-looking and more forgettable as such. To be honest, Roger probably fits into that to some extent.

    Yes. I think James Bond shouldn't look like the usual man. He should have this very distinctive face that stands out in the crowd. Not necessarily a very handsome face, but an interesting face. Like the face of a Greek/Roman Mythology hero.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah, well-put. And I'd say that's what the Hoagy Carmichael/Henry Cotton thing is, or even Bond as drawn by the Daily Express comic strip artists: he's not blandly good-looking.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited March 31 Posts: 2,407
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah, well-put. And I'd say that's what the Hoagy Carmichael/Henry Cotton thing is, or even Bond as drawn by the Daily Express comic strip artists: he's not blandly good-looking.

    Exactly. It also explains why Marvel wanted Craig for Thor.
  • edited March 31 Posts: 4,930
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Personally, I think it’s the less archetypical stuff that makes every Bond actor special. I don’t think Connery would have been a better Bond with a more refined, clipped English accent or more Hoagey Carmichael esque facial features for example.

    Yes exactly. If you look at a lot of movie stars they are actually quite distinctive-looking and I think Connery fits into that; your TV action series stars are often quite blandly good-looking and more forgettable as such. To be honest, Roger probably fits into that to some extent.

    Moore's a bit of an odd one. I think you've said it before but he was this quintessentially 'handsome' man with that square jaw and chest heavy build (and short legs - I remember you writing that, haha). There's something quite gentlemanly about his appearance (and I'm not sure if I can put my finger on why, and it may have to do with how he presented himself and the RADA inflected accent). He had a mole I guess but nothing inherently unusual about his features. In terms of Bond he had lighter hair and I don't think quite fit that 'tall, dark, and handsome' mould (maybe 'light haired, tall, and handsome', but I suppose was close enough). Nice blue and very Fleming Bond colour of eyes.

    I think what made Moore the actor he was was his style and manner. He was debonaire but in an ironic way with his eyebrow raises and tongue in cheek delivery. It weirdly complimented his ability to do more dramatic/dark scenes too. To me he was almost a pastiche of an English gentlemanly type - a David Niven but much more ironic and forceful (and even human) a screen presence. He was kinda the perfect follow on from Connery (who was himself a very wry and often ironic Bond, more so than I think many people here realise, especially in the context of adapting Fleming's Bond). Charismatic as all hell. Not sure if I can fully describe it, but Moore was a very distinct actor in these ways, and I think it was that 'something' about him which made him an extraordinary film star, and not just any other run of the mill television actor.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    That's not Fleming's description of the character. Personally, I still think Lazenby, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan are good choices.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 31 Posts: 17,609
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Personally, I think it’s the less archetypical stuff that makes every Bond actor special. I don’t think Connery would have been a better Bond with a more refined, clipped English accent or more Hoagey Carmichael esque facial features for example.

    Yes exactly. If you look at a lot of movie stars they are actually quite distinctive-looking and I think Connery fits into that; your TV action series stars are often quite blandly good-looking and more forgettable as such. To be honest, Roger probably fits into that to some extent.

    Moore's a bit of an odd one. I think you've said it before but he was this quintessentially 'handsome' man with that square jaw and chest heavy build (and short legs - I remember you writing that, haha). There's something quite gentlemanly about his appearance (and I'm not sure if I can put my finger on why, and it may have to do with how he presented himself and the RADA inflected accent). He had a mole I guess but nothing inherently unusual about his features. In terms of Bond he had lighter hair and I don't think quite fit that 'tall, dark, and handsome' mould (maybe 'light haired, tall, and handsome', but I suppose was close enough). Nice blue and very Fleming Bond colour of eyes.

    I think what made Moore the actor he was was his style and manner. He was debonaire but in an ironic way with his eyebrow raises and tongue in cheek delivery. It weirdly complimented his ability to do more dramatic/dark scenes too. To me he was almost a pastiche of an English gentlemanly type - a David Niven but much more ironic and forceful (and even human) a screen presence. He was kinda the perfect follow on from Connery (who was himself a very wry and often ironic Bond, more so than I think many people here realise, especially in the context of adapting Fleming's Bond). Charismatic as all hell. Not sure if I can fully describe it, but Moore was a very distinct actor in these ways, and I think it was that 'something' about him which made him an extraordinary film star, and not just any other run of the mill television actor.

    Yeah that's a great way of putting it, I completely agree. I guess I just mean in term of looks, I think if you were flicking through the channels on US telly in the 50s and came across The Alaskans or Maverick or one of those pretty formulaic shows he was doing you'd probably have forgotten his face by the time you got to the next channel: he was your typical square-jawed handsome guy. But yes, once he got to really star in his own show, become The Saint, his distinctiveness and charisma really shone through. I think it's been said a lot before, but in a way his ridiculously handsome looks kind of stopped him from being the comedic character actor he perhaps might have preferred to be at times. Mind you, I doubt he'd have said that; I get the feeling he had an absolutely lovely time!
  • Posts: 4,930
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Personally, I think it’s the less archetypical stuff that makes every Bond actor special. I don’t think Connery would have been a better Bond with a more refined, clipped English accent or more Hoagey Carmichael esque facial features for example.

    Yes exactly. If you look at a lot of movie stars they are actually quite distinctive-looking and I think Connery fits into that; your TV action series stars are often quite blandly good-looking and more forgettable as such. To be honest, Roger probably fits into that to some extent.

    Moore's a bit of an odd one. I think you've said it before but he was this quintessentially 'handsome' man with that square jaw and chest heavy build (and short legs - I remember you writing that, haha). There's something quite gentlemanly about his appearance (and I'm not sure if I can put my finger on why, and it may have to do with how he presented himself and the RADA inflected accent). He had a mole I guess but nothing inherently unusual about his features. In terms of Bond he had lighter hair and I don't think quite fit that 'tall, dark, and handsome' mould (maybe 'light haired, tall, and handsome', but I suppose was close enough). Nice blue and very Fleming Bond colour of eyes.

    I think what made Moore the actor he was was his style and manner. He was debonaire but in an ironic way with his eyebrow raises and tongue in cheek delivery. It weirdly complimented his ability to do more dramatic/dark scenes too. To me he was almost a pastiche of an English gentlemanly type - a David Niven but much more ironic and forceful (and even human) a screen presence. He was kinda the perfect follow on from Connery (who was himself a very wry and often ironic Bond, more so than I think many people here realise, especially in the context of adapting Fleming's Bond). Charismatic as all hell. Not sure if I can fully describe it, but Moore was a very distinct actor in these ways, and I think it was that 'something' about him which made him an extraordinary film star, and not just any other run of the mill television actor.

    Yeah that's a great way of putting it, I completely agree. I guess I just mean in term of looks, I think if you were flicking through the channels on US telly in the 50s and came across The Alaskans or Maverick or one of those pretty formulaic shows he was doing you'd probably have forgotten his face by the time you got to the next channel: he was your typical square-jawed handsome guy. But yes, once he got to really star in his own show, become The Saint, his distinctiveness and charisma really shone through. I think it's been said a lot before, but in a way his ridiculously handsome looks kind of stopped him from being the comedic character actor he perhaps might have preferred to be at times. Mind you, I doubt he'd have said that; I get the feeling he had an absolutely lovely time!

    I know, must have been a hard life for him being handsome, charismatic, talented, and distinctive! But joking aside I get what you mean.
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