If skyfall gets bad reviews will you still go see it at the cinema?

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  • 002002
    edited October 2012 Posts: 581
    If Skyfall ever ends up as worst as QOS (which judging from what i have seen is impossible) than i would hope that the bond franchise ends completely

    i love all the bond films except QOS.. and all the activison spin off games like Blood Stone, Goldeneye Reloaded, etc

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  • edited October 2012 Posts: 774
    002 wrote:
    If Skyfall ever ends up as worst as QOS (which judging from what i have seen is impossible) than i would hope that the bond franchise ends completely

    Very much disagree, I never want Bond to end. While QOS was an overall disappointment, it had a few excellent scenes that were very 'Bond'. Enough that, despite it being a disappointment, I still had great hope. Skyfall is looking excellent, so it being as bad as QOS (pretty subjective) seems unlikely; and the series has survived worse than two average films in a row in the past.
  • Well, I'll have seen the movie before I read any reviews. Plus, reviews have no effect on whether I see z movie or not.

    And in this case, its a James Bond movie, who cares about reviews. As a James Bond fan its a given I'll be at the cinema, wrong ofthe queue......
  • edited October 2012 Posts: 655
    001 wrote:
    If skyfall gets bad reviews like qos did i won't go see it at the cinema.
    I'll wait till it comes out on dvd and rent it.
    What will you guys do?

    You will serious not go to the cinema if it gets bad reviews.? How excited are you for the film? lol

    Im not even looking at reviews online. Im watching the film and passing my own judgment. Sometimes reviews mean nothing. They are not always right and its a personal thing.

    I dont care about reviews, but what do you think the percentage will be on rotten tomatoes. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/skyfall/reviews/ I think in its 90's
  • 001001
    Posts: 1,575
    001 wrote:
    If skyfall gets bad reviews like qos did i won't go see it at the cinema.
    I'll wait till it comes out on dvd and rent it.
    What will you guys do?

    You will serious not go to the cinema if it gets bad reviews.? How excited are you for the film? lol

    Im not even looking at reviews online. Im watching the film and passing my own judgment. Sometimes reviews mean nothing. They are not always right and its a personal thing.

    I dont care about reviews, but what do you think the percentage will be on rotten tomatoes. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/skyfall/reviews/ I think in its 90's

    I've been watching bond films for 35 years so i'm not that excited especially after the qos release.
    You care about reviews,don't lie :) that's why you are asking about what review it will get on rottan tomatoes.
    I don't know what percentage it will get as i can't judge it just on the teaser.
    Hopefully it's a good one.
  • 002002
    Posts: 581
    001 wrote:
    001 wrote:
    If skyfall gets bad reviews like qos did i won't go see it at the cinema.
    I'll wait till it comes out on dvd and rent it.
    What will you guys do?

    You will serious not go to the cinema if it gets bad reviews.? How excited are you for the film? lol

    Im not even looking at reviews online. Im watching the film and passing my own judgment. Sometimes reviews mean nothing. They are not always right and its a personal thing.

    I dont care about reviews, but what do you think the percentage will be on rotten tomatoes. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/skyfall/reviews/ I think in its 90's

    I've been watching bond films for 35 years so i'm not that excited especially after the qos release.
    You care about reviews,don't lie :) that's why you are asking about what review it will get on rottan tomatoes.
    I don't know what percentage it will get as i can't judge it just on the teaser.
    Hopefully it's a good one.

    actually i havent read any reviews to be honest- the first bond film i ever saw in the cinema was Die Another Day and the only reaction i felt after leaving was that the film felt incomplete like there was something missing

    when i saw Casino Royale in the cinemas (i didnt read any reviews) i was blown away and went to see it twice

    however i went into QOS and i came out of the cinemas thinking i spent $30 on a movie so bad i would gladly watch Batman and Robin six times on a loop and yes i suppose after that reading reviews would help me pick movies (hell it saved me from watching Dark Shaddows...)

    but from what i have seen in the trailers Skyfall looks as good as The World is Not Enough and Casino Royale and looks great- im going to pre-order my tickets ASAP
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    001 wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    All I can think is, that its amazing how many replied in all earnest to this question. I am sure, the poster didn't mean it seriously. Even I am Bondfan enough to go see every one there is - just because.

    I'm one of the biggest bond fans who has watched all of the bond films several times at least and in total hundreds of times.
    I have heaps of bond collectables and all the films.

    I meant the post as a serious question and just because it is a new bond film, it doesn't mean you have to go see it if it gets terrible reviews in the cinema in my opinion, because you are a "serious" bond fan as some seem to suggest in my opinion.

    It's a great expereince seeing films especially bond films in the cinema and i hope sf is a good one but like i said if the reviews are bad I'll wait till it's released on dvd.

    I'd rather rewatch the bond films i love than go see a stinker of a bond film with qos like reviews if that happens with sf.

    Did QOS get such bad reviews at the time? Most seemed to be along the lines of 'its not as good as CR' but I dont recall any absolutely slating it. DAD also got reasonable reviews at the time which just goes to show you cant trust what the critics say.

    How do you know you that you wont think its the best Bond film ever and then you'll have missed it on the big screen?

    Or do you always agree wholeheartedly with what the critics say?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited October 2012 Posts: 24,183
    Critics and I aren't on speaking terms when it comes to Bond. Some of them persistently try to convince us that Bond films are rubbish. Others are stuck in the 'Goldfinger-is-the-only-good-Bond-film-ever-made' syndrome. As for me, I like to think I'm intelligent enough to first see the film, then pass my own judgement. This isn't a matter of "if SF gets bad reviews..." for SF will get bad reviews from some. You see, there are still those who feel like Craig is the biggest mistake the Bonds ever made. There are still those who think a good Bond must feature a bald Blofeld with a white cat. There are still those who are envious of Bond's success and who have been trying since many decades ago to 'prove' that Bond should have been stuck in the 60s and whatnot. People who blindly hang on every word some critics write, are shamefully incapable of formulating their own opinion and should, IMO, refrain from stating any opinion at all. For if one's opinion is not one's own, what value does it have?
  • Pretty much every film will get at least a few bad reviews.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Critics and I aren't on speaking terms when it comes to Bond. Some of them persistently try to convince us that Bond films are rubbish. Others are stuck in the 'Goldfinger-is-the-only-good-Bond-film-ever-made' syndrome. As for me, I like to think I'm intelligent enough to first see the film, then pass my own judgement. This isn't a matter of "if SF gets bad reviews..." for SF will get bad reviews from some. You see, there are still those who feel like Craig is the biggest mistake the Bonds ever made. There are still those who think a good Bond must feature a bald Blofeld with a white cat. There are still those who are envious of Bond's success and who have been trying since many decades ago to 'prove' that Bond should have been stuck in the 60s and whatnot. People who blindly hang on every word some critics write, are shamefully incapable of formulating their own opinion and should, IMO, refrain from stating any opinion at all. For if one's opinion is not one's own, what value does it have?

    Well said indeed Sir. I think this statement pretty much wraps up this particular debate.
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    I lived through the Moore-onic years. I think I can make it through ok.
  • Posts: 1,492
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Critics and I aren't on speaking terms when it comes to Bond. Some of them persistently try to convince us that Bond films are rubbish. Others are stuck in the 'Goldfinger-is-the-only-good-Bond-film-ever-made' syndrome. As for me, I like to think I'm intelligent enough to first see the film, then pass my own judgement. This isn't a matter of "if SF gets bad reviews..." for SF will get bad reviews from some. You see, there are still those who feel like Craig is the biggest mistake the Bonds ever made. There are still those who think a good Bond must feature a bald Blofeld with a white cat. There are still those who are envious of Bond's success and who have been trying since many decades ago to 'prove' that Bond should have been stuck in the 60s and whatnot. People who blindly hang on every word some critics write, are shamefully incapable of formulating their own opinion and should, IMO, refrain from stating any opinion at all. For if one's opinion is not one's own, what value does it have?

    Good post.

    Its the every-Bond-shoulde-be-goldfinger critics I have a problem with. They review the films as if they are a succession of tickboxes.

  • It's the ones who think all Bond films are rubbish or that Craig is the biggest mistake that I have a problem with. These people are clueless and mostly not fans to begin with. I already saw a few people say they'd let a bad SF review deter them and that's pathetic. Yes I did, I call those opinions pathetic, why, it's like Dimi says, think for yourself if you want people to value and respect what you have to say, even if they disagree you'll still have respect.
  • It's the ones who think all Bond films are rubbish or that Craig is the biggest mistake that I have a problem with. These people are clueless and mostly not fans to begin with. I already saw a few people say they'd let a bad SF review deter them and that's pathetic. Yes I did, I call those opinions pathetic, why, it's like Dimi says, think for yourself if you want people to value and respect what you have to say, even if they disagree you'll still have respect.

    I think that people who stubbornly cling to a specific idea are indeed clueless but that goes for *every* type of opinion.

    There was a great interview with a pollster on the radio a few years ago and they were discussing a particular politician who was very unpopular with the masses (I won't say who it was so people don't pre-judge their position on this anecdote, regardless of the fact that most people who live outside of my area would have no idea who the politician was). Anyway, the pollster revealed an interesting fact - about 30% of the people who support a particular politician or political party will continue their support no matter what. So there is - quite literally - NOTHING that could happen that would dissuade them from following that person or party. To me that's really sad, and a good reason why a lot of people vote for politicians or parties whose policies make the voters' lives worse.

    Now, there is a reason that I bring this up. There is a parallel to fandom. When someone says that they will see SF no matter what the consensus of the critics I can understand that. In fact, I would count myself among those people. But the anger that some people have towards critics who have a different opinion than theirs is similar to those people who blindly support...well, anything or anyone. When these people come up with excuses such as "all critics are pretentious" or some such thing then I tune out. Seriously, one critic's opinion is just one critic's opinion. But when, say, a hundred critics all agree that a film is poorly done then there's a reason for it. So when someone admonishes a fan for not "thinking for themselves" it can relate to people who would say a film is AWESOME! no matter what because they *want* it to be awesome.

    Did I enjoy QoS? Yes, very much, but I can also admit that there were a lot of problems with it. Does that mean that I'm not a *real* Bond fan? Of course not. But If I blindly defended the film because, as a Bond fan, I'm *supposed* to then I'm no longer a fan, I'm a fanatic.

    I hope SF is a great film, but if it were to receive 12% on an aggregate site like Rotten Tomatoes I won't be coming up with reasons why all the critics are wrong...their opinions are just as valid as mine. I can recognize that a film has flaws and still enjoy it without needing to prove that it *doesn't* have flaws - to me that would reveal insecurity on my part.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited October 2012 Posts: 28,694
    002 wrote:
    If Skyfall ever ends up as worst as QOS (which judging from what i have seen is impossible) than i would hope that the bond franchise ends completely

    i love all the bond films except QOS.. and all the activison spin off games like Blood Stone, Goldeneye Reloaded, etc

    Mod edit: please use the edit button and avoid double posts.

    Did you even think before you posted? With that logic, the series had the chance of ending more than a few times in the 50 years.
  • edited October 2012 Posts: 655
    001 wrote:
    001 wrote:
    If skyfall gets bad reviews like qos did i won't go see it at the cinema.
    I'll wait till it comes out on dvd and rent it.
    What will you guys do?

    You will serious not go to the cinema if it gets bad reviews.? How excited are you for the film? lol

    Im not even looking at reviews online. Im watching the film and passing my own judgment. Sometimes reviews mean nothing. They are not always right and its a personal thing.

    I dont care about reviews, but what do you think the percentage will be on rotten tomatoes. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/skyfall/reviews/ I think in its 90's

    I've been watching bond films for 35 years so i'm not that excited especially after the qos release.
    You care about reviews,don't lie :) that's why you are asking about what review it will get on rottan tomatoes.
    I don't know what percentage it will get as i can't judge it just on the teaser.
    Hopefully it's a good one.

    No, reviews do not bother me what so ever. I always watch a film and pass my own judgment. I know im going to love it, even if it got a low score. movies are personaly, and not everyone is going to like them. I was just wondering the percent on rotten tomatoes, but i cannot stand that site one bit. !!!!!!!!!!!

    Sometimes i do look at reviews, yet, but with bond films.. noooo. Becuase im a huge fan, reviews for a bond film mean nothing to me. Skyfall wont even get bad reviews i dont think. It looks amazing!!!!!!!!.
  • Like many here I have already booked my tickets too :) - I know too much about Skyfall to know that logically it's going to be an above average Bond - a worthy follow-up to Casino Royale after the hugely missed opportunities of Quantum of Solace. My birthday is the 31st, so seeing film on the 26th is my birthday treat :)
  • ChevronChevron Northern Ireland
    Posts: 370
    I'm in lockdown mode after seeing the main trailer that gave away lots of plot info. I'm avoiding any mention of Skyfall to reduce potential spoilerage. I'm staying clear of a lot of threads on his forum. I'm not buying the magazines with DC on the cover. I'm going to avoid reading any reviews if possible. I will go on opening night and make my own mind up.

    Also I'm reducing my expectations as much as possible. This is partly due to the disapointment of Prometheus, but also in response to what I saw in the main trailer. I'll be sitting in the cinema thinking 'please don't be rubbish, please!'
  • same here, I've read too much and seen too much that I should have avoided - but avoiding spoilers from now on and trying to forget things I do know haha
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    lewisblake wrote:
    same here, I've read too much and seen too much that I should have avoided - but avoiding spoilers from now on and trying to forget things I do know haha

    Thanks to the heavy lack of spoiler tags by careless people, I know the entirety of the ending, it seems. Come October 23rd, I'll probably take my leave from this site until I see it at midnight on the 9th.
  • brinkeguthriebrinkeguthrie Piz Gloria
    Posts: 1,400
    I don't know much about the plot at all other than the family place is called Skyfall, which seems common knowledge. I won't read a single review and will avoid this website after the 25th. I don't recall when a 007 movie was released 2 weeks later than an other location.
  • 001001
    Posts: 1,575
    001 wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    All I can think is, that its amazing how many replied in all earnest to this question. I am sure, the poster didn't mean it seriously. Even I am Bondfan enough to go see every one there is - just because.

    I'm one of the biggest bond fans who has watched all of the bond films several times at least and in total hundreds of times.
    I have heaps of bond collectables and all the films.

    I meant the post as a serious question and just because it is a new bond film, it doesn't mean you have to go see it if it gets terrible reviews in the cinema in my opinion, because you are a "serious" bond fan as some seem to suggest in my opinion.

    It's a great expereince seeing films especially bond films in the cinema and i hope sf is a good one but like i said if the reviews are bad I'll wait till it's released on dvd.

    I'd rather rewatch the bond films i love than go see a stinker of a bond film with qos like reviews if that happens with sf.

    Did QOS get such bad reviews at the time? Most seemed to be along the lines of 'its not as good as CR' but I dont recall any absolutely slating it. DAD also got reasonable reviews at the time which just goes to show you cant trust what the critics say.

    How do you know you that you wont think its the best Bond film ever and then you'll have missed it on the big screen?

    Or do you always agree wholeheartedly with what the critics say?

    There are certain movie reviewers that are very good when rating films here in oz.

    Surely you know some movie reviewer/s that is usually spot on most of the time atleast?

    If it's the best bond film ever made it surely it won't be getting qos like reviews (awful)which were spot on in regards to the ones i read.

    How can you wholeheartedly agree with critics when some are very good and some are just plain hopeless. You don't make sense dude :)






  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117

    001 wrote:


    If it's the best bond film ever made it surely it won't be getting qos like reviews (awful)which were spot on in regards to the ones i read.


    I said that you might think it the best Bond film ever made, irrespective of reviews, you know with your own brain?
    001 wrote:
    How can you wholeheartedly agree with critics when some are very good and some are just plain hopeless. You don't make sense dude :)




    I think you might just have made my point for me by illustrating why your own argument is untenable.

    Thank you very much.

    Dude.
  • Of course I will still see it. But with this level of talent and the quality we have already seen in the trailers, it should be nothing too short of a success. The only opinion that matters is your own.
  • 001001
    Posts: 1,575
    001 wrote:


    If it's the best bond film ever made it surely it won't be getting qos like reviews (awful)which were spot on in regards to the ones i read.


    I said that you might think it the best Bond film ever made, irrespective of reviews, you know with your own brain?
    001 wrote:
    How can you wholeheartedly agree with critics when some are very good and some are just plain hopeless. You don't make sense dude :)




    I think you might just have made my point for me by illustrating why your own argument is untenable.

    Thank you very much.

    Dude.

    Like i said because you seem to not understand what i am trying to say wiz.
    If the film gets qos like reviews, 2/5, it's very unlikely to be my favorite bond film is it,
    don't you think?

    I would say the chances are zero.

    It won't be better than the first 4 which are bond film masterpieces at best if it gets qos like reviews which is all i am saying.
    Simple enough for ya :)

  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    @001 stop trash talking.
  • 001001
    Posts: 1,575
    Brendoge wrote:
    Of course I will still see it. But with this level of talent and the quality we have already seen in the trailers, it should be nothing too short of a success. The only opinion that matters is your own.

    So if it gets 4/10 for example from all the critics, not that i wish that, i hope it's at least a 8/10 film, will you still go see it at the cinema or wait until it's released on dvd is all i am asking.

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    Yes, because critics are often wrong. Some of my favourite movies, some of the most entertaining movies I've seen have received 'mixed' reviews from critics.
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    Of course I see it if it gets bad reviews! Maybe even twice...
  • 001001
    Posts: 1,575
    Volante wrote:
    Yes, because critics are often wrong. Some of my favourite movies, some of the most entertaining movies I've seen have received 'mixed' reviews from critics.

    That's true with the mixed reviews.
    What were some of the films?

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