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Don't forget when one of the producers publicly said she thought it'd be the best one. I agree with you guys, if people hype it too much (best Bond ever!), it'll be a let down for them if it's anything less than perfect.
We should wait and see before making big claims like it's the best one ever.
They've already spoilt it for me with having a younger Q than Bond, and a theme song I fail to recognize, but it's no good crying over spilt milk, and I hope and I believe the rest of the movie will be something special and Craig continues his fine work, even though Solace was a major letdown. I don't believe it will truly be 'Best Bond ever', depends how you want to view it, people may think it's bigger and better for whatever reasons, but it's merely a different generation of viewers and material now. Remember, the bigger the hype, the more propensity there is for a bigger letdown , but I'm sure that won't happen this year. However I feel personally about certain aspects of the upcoming release, I believe it will be a release worth waiting for and quietly confident
But I think it's a very personal thing.
Anyway, there are a lot of very well promoted movies that after the release were reviewed as really bad ones.
Honestly, I'd say it's a film that can stand on its own and be a film where you don't just have to be a Bond fan to enjoy. I'd say that FRWL, GF, GE, and CR all stand in this category. Not that these may necessarily be my favorites but the general population all say that these are considered to be the best ones in the series.
I see what you're getting at but I'd probably remove FRWL from that list. Bond fans love it but I would argue the man on the street would prefer something more like LALD.
Exactly.
As Skyfall is still a couple of weeks from release I'd say it's impossible to say whether it will be the best Bond movie ever. And what is the best Bond movie?
We all have differing views on that. Especially hardcore fans like many members of these forums.
Because the franchise has been going so long and with six Bond actors it's hard to imagine a new Bond film - even future ones - being the very best ever simply because of what's come before. And you could argue the earlier Bond films had more Ian Fleming content so they're likely to be the "best" Bond films. Perhaps Skyfall will turn out to be best Bond film ever of the new *era*. I'm sure it's better than Die Another Invisible Car Day. :P
Sanity prevails! I agree 100%. And yet there are still people out there who dont rate Craig still! Well on aint it cool anyway! But that's full of foul-mouthed trolls anyway.
How on earth are we supposed to answer this? We haven't seen the film. And not all Bond fans share the same opinion on what is the current "best Bond film".
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That's not say it will be, big things are expected, it's the 50th year release, and while there are certain aspects to it I'm not entirely happy about, we have to overlook any problems and realize that it should be a successful event. All we can do is watch this space in a week or two. Far too early to be making proper judgments
it could just mean the best bond film to this date. It can still be topped.
Whats a fact though, is its one of the best bond films in the series, good enough .
I think a hype is not bad. You can never have too much hype about a movie that at the same time is very good too. 'The Dark Knight' got hyped to such weird levels, partially because of Heath Ledger's death.
And hype has always been part of James Bond. Need I mention the Bond hysteria during 1964 and 1965 when 'Goldfinger' and 'Thunderball' were being produced?
Please (re-)watch the 'Thunderball Phenomenon' documentary. And be awed by both the Bond mania across the globe and on set :-). Also watch the part from 1min 50sec onwards. It's a documentary inside this documentary about how and where Ian Fleming's young Bond grew up (Scotland) and how he became an orphan. It's so remarkable that Bond's history is actually being used for the upcoming Bond flick 'Skyfall'! :
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The 'Making Of Thunderball' documentary is great too. Be surprised how suave, luxury all cast members felt on set. As if they all were James Bond themselves. They had such a great time on that film :-):
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I think Bond films vary from film to film really. Look and compare 'From Russia With Love' and 'Goldfinger' with each other. Both films are unanonimously rated with 4 or 5 stars. But they vary from each other. FRWL is the more gritty one, Sean is a cold assasin, especially in the train fight scene. Whereas GF introduced us to the fully rounded character of Q and all his gadgets. Not to mention the overall 'lighter', 'funnier' feel of this film.
That's how I compare Craig's 'Casino Royale' with 'Skyfall'. CR seems to me a tiny bit more 'arthouse-y', and truthfull adaptation of Fleming's novel. Whereas SF turns out to become Craig's 'Thunderball'. The villain is a bit more larger-than-life, the production and all the buzz surrounding SF is that of Thunderball-proportions. Not to mention the biggest starcast ever. Even bigger than CR.
Despite the differences between CR and SF, I wanna bet both Bond films are very much equally rated: 4 to 5 stars :-).
One reason why Skyfall is special and could also be seen as the best bond film is due to it's script. I dont know how they can top it. without spoiling things for everyone, this story can only be told once. Things happen in the story that will shock you but will never happen again.
Maybe to a new Bond audience it will be perceived that way. But Bond has had so many great films and how can you compare them?. OHMSS is seen as one of the best. But it is too different a film to objectively compare it to Goldfinger for instance. It is one thing to say Skyfall is brilliant but best ever may be a stretch.
I could be wrong though until I see it and think otherwise.
I did go in expecting a good Bond film and I came out thinking I'd gotten a great, top 5 or 10 Bond film that was Craig's best and that was the best one since Goldeneye.
I'm glad to hear that you liked it @thelivingroyale !
I'd say it's better than GE and perhaps even better than CR.
For me it went straight into my top 5.
Best Bond film ever though? Don't think so. Too early to tell. I DID enjoy it more first time round than most of the other recent ones however.
Another thing, there are references to previous films (one of which got a huge cheer) but they are done sparingly.
For me - I like Bond movies that feature glamour, lots of great action set pieces, exotic locations and a Bond that can hit the mark.
Foggy Scotland, grey England and a Bond unfit for duty was a different experience, but a great prequel for Bond 24.
What about Istanbul and Shanghai?
Even the more "grey" locations were photographed beautifully.
My only problems with the film were the gunbarrel, the CGI in some scenes and I felt like Silva and (especially) Severine were under used.
Other than that it was brilliant. I'm not sure where to put it on my list though.