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My enthusiasm for this movie has now taken a nose dive. The gunbarrel moved?? I could live with that but no full on Bond theme is just unacceptable!
This upsets me a lot. I can't understand why the addition of these Bondian elements would be ignored by the crew. The non-fans couldn't care less where the GB is, but the fans like us do. I know that the Bond series has to be updated as the years go on, but what advantage is there to not having the theme used more, or to moving around the GB?
There are also parts of John Williams in there, 'Take the bloody shot' (0.52-1.02), and of course a lot of Barry/Arnold.
A decent soundtrack from Newman. Doesn't sound like there's any repeating theme though, which I think is a shame.
By no means is the soundtrack BAD, but as a listen by itself, Newman's score is forgettable to me. All this being said, I'm very sure that it will all fit very nicely into the film itself.
When I heard "Breadcrumbs" I did get that shiver down my spine, If only Newman had the guts to use the full theme. It seems like composers are afraid to use the theme, while Arnold used it whenever something big was going on, like it's supposed to be used!
I don't. As soon as I see the actor, as soon as the suspense starts, as soon as there are some exotic locations (THAT is the one thing I couldn't live without!) I know I'm watching a Bond movie. They are still so different from any other film franchise.
Also: its always easy to fall back to the Bond theme. Arnold has admitted so himself. I like how Newman has elements of it ALL OVER the score. That makes it much more effective, and retains the "formula" to a degree.
It's my opinion exactly. I prefer to have elements of it scattered all over the soundtrack, reassuring me it's a Bond film, a Bond soundtrack, than having the obvious cues over and over.
I do agree with the sentiments that with this 5o year jubilee the James Bond theme could have been given some massive workout. AND I do miss Adele her single on the album. But I am overal very pleased with the result and it will get more playtime at my house as the previous 2 ost's combined.
That would have happened anyway wouldn't it: you dislike Arnold's music that much.
spoiler tagged because it's my made-up storyline:
I hope to God that with this alleged editing Mendes has been doing post press screening, we get the full blown theme in there.
I dislike DA's work on the last two soundtracks as they offered him along with the reboot the chance to reinvent some great music. But as a composer he failed miserably to really come up with something new and exciting. I find that EON like before should find themselves a real house-composer that would make the music something special and extra like it used to be. And for me with DA they kind of lacked the interest of going out and shop for something new. DA at the end of the day had a chance to shine and all we got were sparkles. Compares to earlier Bondmovies we see that the movies got their own sound and a recognisable identity, I simply want that back.
With the Newman ost I hear something new and fresh that lacked before, probably because Newman is a true composer and DA with his skills is not.
--> DN: Full Monty Norman James Bond theme
--> FRWL: Full Monty Norman James Bond theme
--> GF: John Barry's first new rendition of the James Bond theme, but was never played fully.
--> TB: Full Monty Norman James Bond theme when end credits kick in
--> YOLT: Full Monty Norman James Bond theme
--> OHMSS: Full Monty Norman James Bond theme
--> DAF: James Bond theme was never played fully
--> LALD: James Bond theme was played in full by George Martin
--> TMWTGG: James Bond theme was never played from start to end. Also here parts.
--> TSWLM: James Bond theme completely reworked by Marvin Hamlisch in 'Bond'77'. Only parts of Monty's cues were used.
--> MR: James Bond theme was played in full by John Barry
--> FYEO: Heavily Mexican-flavoured reworked James Bond theme by Bill Conti during pre-credits. But never the full Monty Norman version.
--> OP: James Bond theme was played in full by John Barry
--> AVTAK: James Bond theme was played in full by John Barry
--> TLD: James Bond theme was played in full by John Barry
--> LTK: James Bond theme was never played fully by Michael Kamen
--> GE: James Bond theme was never played fully by John Altman. His very own rendition it was, not 100% similar to Monty Norman's James Bond theme
--> TND: James Bond theme was never played fully by David Arnold, allthough he heavily used parts of Monty Norman's theme.
--> TWINE: James Bond theme was played in full by David Arnold during boat chase.
--> DAD: Let's not talk about this mess.
--> CR: Full James Bond theme when end credits kick in, by David Arnold
--> QOS: Full James Bond theme when end credits kick in, by David Arnold
So as you can see, there is no black and white use of Monty Norman's James Bond theme. In fact, each composer -Monty Norman, John Barry, George Martin, Marvin Hamlisch, Bill Conti, Michael Kamen, John Altman, Eric Serra, David Arnold and Thomas Newman- gave their own interpretation of the Monty's original theme,
Moreover, Monty Norman's version was re-used in FRWL, TB, YOLT and OHMSS, but it was skipped in GF. And it didn't appear anymore after OHMSS.
Then you have the so called 'jubilee Bond films', like the 15th anniversary for TSWLM and the 40th anniversary for DAD. Did we really miss the absence of Monty Norman's fully performed James Bond theme? No, not in my case. It were other aspects that really made or broke the quality of the movie.
Actually, I have a thing right now for those one-time Bond composers, like Bill Conti, George Martin and Marvin Hamlisch. Highly underrated. And give them some credit for pumping some fresh blood in the franchise. That's what Thomas Newman is doing now.
Yes, we don't hear the full version of Monty Norman's James Bond theme. But can 'Skyfall' PLEASE have its own originality? We fans can not have everything I think. And we already have this damn good James Bond song by Adele.
The Severine theme displayed in "Severine"/"Modigliani"/"Komodo Dragon" is extremely pleasant to listen to (and very Arnoldesque). Love it!
"Old Dog, New Tricks" is reminiscent, as others have said, of "Try" from OHMSS.
There are other tracks like "New Digs"/"Brave New World"/"Komodo Dragon" that are fun to listen. I especially like to touches of the Bond theme in the last two tracks.
And "Breadcrumbs" - who's not to like that one! I just wish the theme would have kept going...
Overall (for first listen) I think it's a good solid soundtrack, but I do feel it's a little bit of a let down. It would've been nice to hear a big, blaring Bond theme in there somewhere for the 50th, but we are just given little hints scattered throughout...which, don't get me wrong, I like (and prefer the Bond theme to be used that way). My biggest beef is while there are many Barry-oriented techniques used (such as different instruments for different locations), there is little use of themes throughout. I mean we do get Severine's theme, the Bond theme, but that's really it.
MI6 supports bootlegging does it?
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I've had a little while to sleep on the soundtrack if you will, and I've come to the conclusion that it'll be a good 'background' listen. There are some interesting cues for sure, but nothing so stand out-ish as to disrupt whatever I'm doing while listening.
I completely agree with this assessment. :)
New favourite track: 28. Deep Water! Showcases almost all the styles of the score in one piece.