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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/jamesbond/9606797/Skyfall-set-to-be-most-successful-James-Bond-film.html
Sure it can compete with films like that, I'm talking about billion dollar earners like Batman.
SF will be a huge hit but I don't think it can compete money wise with films like that (Avengers, Batman, etc). I hope I'm wrong though.
You just have to look at how well the film will have to do in the foreign markets to reach the neeeded $700 million, to realise it just won't happen. That is for the really high end films. $550 would be quite something in itself, coupled with the $200 million from the US would make for a very impressive $750 million total - $150 million up on the last two films.[/quote]
Mind if we compare some similar franchises and its box office successes. Because I also love the James Bond franchise from the perspective of my own job (marketing)?
01) $1,076,999,996 -- 'The Dark Knight Rises' (2012)
domestic (US) gross: $446,861,181 - 41.5%
foreign (rest) gross: $630,800,000 - 58.5%
02) $1,003,045,358 -- 'The Dark Knight' (2008)
domestic (US) gross: $534,858,444 - 53.2%
foreign (rest) gross: $469,700,000 - 46.8%
03) $825,532,764 -- 'Inception' (2010)
domestic (US) gross: $292,576,195 - 35.4%
foreign (rest) gross: $532,956,569 - 64.6%
04) $786,636,033 -- 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull' (2008)
domestic (US) gross: $317,101,119 - 40.3%
foreign (rest) gross: $469,534,914 - 59.7%
05) $694,713,380 -- 'Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol' (2011)
domestic (US) gross: $209,397,903 - 30.1%
foreign (rest) gross: $485,315,477 - 69.9%
06) $594,239,066 -- 'Casino Royale' (2006)
domestic (US) gross: $167,445,960 - 28.1%
foreign (rest) gross: $426,793,106 - 71.8%
07) $586,090,727 -- 'Quantum Of Solace' (2008)
domestic (US) gross: $168,368,427 - 28.7%
foreign (rest) gross: $417,722,300 - 71.3%
08) $546,388,105 -- 'Mission: Impossible II' (2000)
domestic (US) gross: $215,409,889 - 39.4%
foreign (rest) gross: $330,978,216 - 60.6%
09) $543,848,418 -- 'Sherlock Holmes II: A Game Of Shadows' (2011)
domestic (US) gross: $186,848,418 - 34.4%
foreign (rest) gross: $357,000,000 - 65.6%
10) $524,028,679 -- 'Sherlock Holmes I' (2009)
domestic (US) gross: $209,028,679 - 39.9%
foreign (rest) gross: $315,000,000 - 60.1%
11) $478,207,520 -- 'Mr. And Mrs. Smith' (2005)
domestic (US) gross: $186,336,279 - 39.0%
foreign (rest) gross: $291,871,241 - 61.0%
12) $442,824,138 -- 'The Bourne Ultimatum' (2007)
domestic (US) gross: $227,471,070 - 51.4%
foreign (rest) gross: $215,353,068 - 48.6%
13) $431,971,116 -- 'Die Another Day' (2002)
domestic (US) gross: $160,942,139 - 37.3%
foreign (rest) gross: $271,028,977 - 62.7%
14) $397,850,012 -- 'Mission: Impossible III' (2006)
15) $383,531,464 -- 'Live Free Or Die Hard' (2007)
16) $372,710,015 -- 'Batman Begins' (2005)
17) $293,503,354 -- 'Salt' (2010)
18) $288,500,217 -- 'The Bourne Supremacy' (2004)
19) $287,239,968 -- 'Taken 2' (2012)
20) $285,444,603 -- 'Lethal Weapon 4' (1998)
21) $277,448,382 -- 'xXx' (2002)
22) $239,370,105 -- 'The Bourne Legacy' (2012)
23) $226,830,568 -- 'Taken' (2009)
24) $214,034,224 -- 'The Bourne Identity' (2002)
25) $207,884,401 -- 'Safe House' (2012)
26) $199,006,387 -- 'Red' (2010)
27) $177,238,796 -- 'The A-Team' (2010)
28) $118,063,304 -- 'The Saint' (1997)
29) $99,965,792 -- 'Hitman' (2007)
30) $80,630,608 -- 'Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy' (2011)
31) $71,022,693 -- 'xXx: State Of The Union' (2005)
32) $70,692,101 -- 'Ronin' (1998)
33) $60,965,854 -- 'Colombiana' (2011)
34) $60,161,391 -- 'The International' (2009)
35) $52,826,594 -- 'From Paris With Love' (2010)
36) $50,732,945 -- 'I Spy' (2002)
37) $16,933,380 -- 'The Heir Apparent: Largo Winch' (2011)
I think that everyone agrees the James Bond franchise has a weakness to overcome in the USA. The revived Batman franchise, other Nolan-films, the Mission Impossible-franchise, Indiana Jones and the Bourne-franchise have all been more popular in Hollywood-country. Even the new Sherlock Holmes-series is doing a better job in the US than James Bond.
But do you really think the new Skyfall-production is only bigger than ever -biggest starcast and production team- because of quality purposes? I think that hasn't been discussed yet, but I am pretty certain EON Productions want to have a firmer grip in the USA again with its Bond franchise now Batman and Jason Bourne seem to be done.
Christopher Nolan hasn't solely been the Broccoli's rolefigure for quality purposes, but also when it comes to the whole production size. Barbara and Michael want to cash big time on 'Skyfall'. And they also know the revived Batman-franchise is finished for the moment. James Bond has to be the sole replacement of that franchise film.
I truly believe 'Skyfall' is setting an entirely new standard that hasn't been seen before in Bond history. Names like Sam Mendes, Roger Deakins, Dennis Gassner, Thomas Newman, Javier Bardem, Ralph Fiennes, Judi Dench and off course Daniel Craig are names that even Cubby could not have dreamt off having in his Bond films (If he's watching from the high heavens upon us, he must be exstatic :-)). On the contrary, Cubby suffered on many occasions backlash from big stars and big names who simply thought Bond was too low-standard for them.
Well, that has completely changed this time around. I firmly believe my above argument for 'Skyfall' will create the necessary buzz to push 'Skyfall's boxoffice in the US towards the $280,000,000. And not only this, but also the 50th anniversary, the Summer Olympics, Adele's big hit, made Britishness look cool again. The same with Bond.
Bond was losing ground in the USA, inflation correction taken into account, ever since 'Tomorrow Never Dies'. Not this time around.
Then the overseas boxoffice. Bond has always been much stronger there. And given the fact that Bond was away for four big years, I'm guessing a $620,000,000 net gross is not a strange unlogical prediction. Also not given the arguments I just made.
And then we haven't talked about a new market: IMAX-nerds. IMAX performances of 'Skyfall' will raise the tickets sales even more.
So a total of $900,000,000? I really could see it happen. Wanna make a bet with me Samuel001 ;-)??
Marketing isn't about posters only. That's such a misunderstanding. I have been in international marketing for quite some years now, and I know from experience that a big ad-machine (posters, commercials) can create backlash also. I think 'Skyfall' just faced the best marketing campaign ever since the 1960's. You know what that marketing campaign is?
Free publicity. Thanks to the Summer Olympics, Adele's big hit song and off course the 50th anniversary celebrations. Also the names of the cast and crew on 'Skyfall' itself is marketing. I'm glad EON finally brought big names onboard, causing much more free publicity.
By the way, this just came in from our own site:
The last TWILIGHT movie will follow closely on the heels of SKYFALL, so I don't know.
I'll keep track of the latest figures the best I can. Others did a great job of this for previous films but as they're not longer with us, I'm willing to step in.
It won't just be me though, MI6 should run a series of articles by this topic's name "Skyfall at the Box Office" if past films are anything to go by and do a damn fine job of it too.
First, some records Skyfall will be looking to smash this coming weekend:
Quantum Of Solace made box office history on its opening day in the UK, taking a staggering £4.94m and making it the biggest Friday opening of all time. That's been beaten since but can Skyfall take it back again?
The film also made box office history for a second time on the same weekend when it opened to an incredible £15.4million at the UK box office making it the biggest weekend opening of all time. Again, can Skyfall reclaim this title?
Worldwide the latest Bond. could take $200 million in the US and as much as $550 million overseas as foreign markets have expanded greatly in the last four years. This would make for a sum of around $750 million, the biggest Bond yet by far and if inflation as of October 2012 is included (a list can be found below), this would make it the biggest Bond 1967's You Only Live Twice and earn it fifth place on the list.
1. $1,037,291,060.32 - Thunderball
2. $932,346,267.74 - Goldfinger
3. $843,280,463.96 - Live And Let Die
4. $773,204,227.54 - You Only Live Twice
5. $707,967,950.50 - The Spy Who Loved Me
6. $682,098,608.86 - Casino Royale
7. $670,341,133.13 - Moonraker
8. $662,795,358.02 - Diamonds Are Forever
9. $629,928,504.77 - Quantum Of Solace
10. $596,667,068.63 - From Russia With Love
11. $555,648,360.42 - Die Another Day
12. $534,777,984.42 - GoldenEye
13. $517,040,163.49 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
14. $502,584,334.85 - The World Is Not Enough
15. $497,181,376.24 - For Your Eyes Only
16. $480,131,415.66 - Tomorrow Never Dies
17. $458,120,146.04 - The Man With The Golden Gun
18. $456,431,419.48 - Dr. No
19. $435,630,647.59 - Octopussy
20. $389,480,795.77 - The Living Daylights
21. $339,368,258.36 - A View To A Kill
22. $291,436,616.45 - Licence To Kill
See you on Friday!
If it's as great as they say, I wonder how they'll top it. But nothing is impossible I guess... With this being a grand scale film, I think they will downplay it a bit again.
Could be, but both films have completely different audiences.
For example, Christopher Nolan's 'Inception' opened on Froday July 16th 2010. Then only 1.5 week later the 3rd Twilight-film, 'Eclipse' opened on Wednesday July 30th.
$698,491,347 - Total worldwide boxoffice gross for 'Twilight III: Eclipse'
$825,532,764 - Total worldwide boxoffice gross for 'Inception'
Audience-wise, both film didn't steal each others visitors. More or less independently they grossed the above amounts of money.
Moreover, the fourth Twilight-film (premiere 18th of November 2011), 'Twilight IV: Breaking Dawn Part 1' didn't do substantially better than the 3rd Twilight-film: $705,058,657 wordlwide.
Also, Twilight is a lucrative franchise, but it's no Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit. Twilight specifically aims for a young female audience, whereas Potter and LotR are more movies for allround family audiences.
And 'Skyfall'? It's quite obvious the Bond producers are aiming at the Christopher Nolan fans, the audience that visited the last two Batman-films and Inception. And again, that audience is hugely different from the Twilight-audience.
I think if 'The Hobbit' was premiering one week after 'Skyfall'......that would be more problematic.
Twilight and WIR won't be much of an issue due to them having a different majority target audience then bond.
Hobbit will be tough for even bond to crack, but with it opening stateside earlier then hobbit might play in its favor. However The Hobbit has history on its side as when the Two Towers opened against DAD, it received around double the gross of the Bond. However I think it's clear that this is a stronger bond film opening at a stronger time for Bonds.
So this is going to be close, my guess is it will be WIR in 4th, Twilight 5 in 3rd, and I'm unsure what will be first, but as I said it will be close.
That's just my two cents.
I don't foresee The Hobbit being too big of an issue - it's opening a full month after Bond does here in the states... by that time, SF will have more than earned the majority of it's share at the box office..
Wreck It Ralph opens up the week before Bond - so all the adults will get that out of the way with their kids before they see SF... i dont see another repeat of Happy Feet, which topped CR here in the states, because it opened against it..... no such worries here with Wreck It Ralph..
Twilight presents the only concern, opening the week after SF - and we all know those young girls can't get enough of their sparkle puffs.... if Bond opens up strong - i don't forsee Twilight knocking it off easily... the last Twilight film opened up big with a $138 million mark - but it dropped off dramatically after that.. so if Twilight does indeed knock off Bond at the box office - it will probably be for only 1 week..
Bond's always performed better overseas as well.... during the Brosnan run up through QOS, the films have all managed to be around that $140 - $175 million range for the US box office.. SF will easily hit around that same mark - perhaps even surpass it, if it can beat out QOS's water mark of a $70 million opening weekend..
the release schedule is as follows for these 4 films...
Wreck It Ralph - Nov. 2
Skyfall - Nov. 9
Twilight : Breaking Dawn Part II - Nov. 16
The Hobbit : An Unexpected Journey - Dec. 14
Avengers Assemble - £15.8m
The Dark Knight Rises - £14.5m
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 - £17.5m
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 - £23m
Back in 2008, Quantum of Solace opened to £15.5m over its opening weekend (friday to sunday), a record at the time. Given that this year the two "biggest films" (Avengers and TDKR) took roughly the same, I'm going to predict Skyfall will make...
£20m on its first weekend.
Bond should be among the highest BO for the year
There are lots of girls in the world mate ;)
But Twilight won't affect Bonds box office.