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  • MartinBondMartinBond Trying not to muck it up again
    Posts: 862
    BECAUSE IT'S. A. MOVIE. It's there for old time's sake!

    I still can't believe people are still complaining about that, drives me absolutely insane ~X(
  • ZekidkZekidk
    Posts: 3,276
    Another question:

    Patrice was hired to assasinate some asian guy, while Severine and her three "bodyguards" were in the same room in Shanghai. But why spent 4 million euro hiring Patrice? Couldn't her three bodyguards easily have taken care of the guy?
  • RisicoRisico
    Posts: 97
    MartinBond wrote:
    BECAUSE IT'S. A. MOVIE. It's there for old time's sake!

    I still can't believe people are still complaining about that, drives me absolutely insane ~X(

    I'm sorry it's driving you insane, and you're right, it *is* a movie. But I was asking myself whilst watching it, what *kind* of movie am I watching; one where I'm expected to expect a consistent internal reality over the course of Craig's tenure, or one where I'm supposed to accept what I see in this film on its own isolated terms, ignoring anything that's gone before? I'm happy to do either, but I do think it's a problem to be caused to wonder this when I'm supposed to be fully engaged in the third act.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    Pierce2Daniel wrote:
    What pills were Bond on? Were they just strong painkillers or something more illegal?

    When your the government, nothing is illegal :)
  • BenBen
    Posts: 121
    Zekidk wrote:
    Another question:

    Patrice was hired to assasinate some asian guy, while Severine and her three "bodyguards" were in the same room in Shanghai. But why spent 4 million euro hiring Patrice? Couldn't her three bodyguards easily have taken care of the guy?

    I guess it must be there is more to an assassination than just killing the guy. You have to do something with the body and I'm sure there are more factors I'm missing. But, yeah, it did seem to be there more for the aesthetics than anything (why didn't he just go to the room with them and shoot him at point blank range?) but it was still a good fight scene. The last reason I could think of is that Sévérine is known for having three bodyguards and so any more and it would look suspicious. I know Bond references here having three bodyguards.
  • darrenrdarrenr
    edited October 2012 Posts: 84
    Risico wrote:
    MartinBond wrote:
    BECAUSE IT'S. A. MOVIE. It's there for old time's sake!

    I still can't believe people are still complaining about that, drives me absolutely insane ~X(

    I'm sorry it's driving you insane, and you're right, it *is* a movie. But I was asking myself whilst watching it, what *kind* of movie am I watching; one where I'm expected to expect a consistent internal reality over the course of Craig's tenure, or one where I'm supposed to accept what I see in this film on its own isolated terms, ignoring anything that's gone before? I'm happy to do either, but I do think it's a problem to be caused to wonder this when I'm supposed to be fully engaged in the third act.

    I'm comfortable with all the "misplaced" times, I look at it this way; CR was the first book and so really, what they did with this is kind of put the front bookend to the franchise finally into film. They added QoS as a secondary item to it. SF come where it does, at the other end of the franchise, a story in its own right. So if you ignore the age of the films and whomever was playing Bond, then the DB5 gets modified in GF, reappears once or twice therafter, and comes in to play here again in SF. I think its fairly acceptable that way round....... I dont see it as Craigs/connerys/Moores etc tenure. Its all Bond.
  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
    Posts: 2,782
    One negative thing only for this cracking grown up Bond film; if Q is the best computer genius in the whole world, how come he was outfoxed by two Ethernet cables?
  • darrenrdarrenr
    Posts: 84
    Biggest question for me, if any of the really good fans on here can answer it...
    How is it suggested that Silva gets out of the locked glass "box" he was in,then through the other doors etc etc all the way onto the street? Was he controlling the Mi6 systems somehow, or had he just plre-timed events? If so, how would he know what the time was?? I'm rarely troubled by moments of "unreality" in a movie but this just seemed to be just accepted he had got out?
  • BenBen
    Posts: 121
    @darrenr He opened the hatch just outside the prison he was in. He went through the underground from there. It must of been either some sort of pre-timed attack, whether that be a set time or he got one of his henchmen to do it. Just what I saw and read into it, someone might have a better idea.
  • AgentJM7AgentJM7
    edited October 2012 Posts: 421
    What was the music playing from Silvas helicopter?

    EDIT: Found it - "Boom! Boom!" by John Lee Hooker
  • darrenrdarrenr
    Posts: 84
    cheers Ben, its one of those things to look out for on the second viewing I think!
  • RyanKintRyanKint
    Posts: 83
    forgotmyusername wrote:
    One negative thing only for this cracking grown up Bond film; if Q is the best computer genius in the whole world, how come he was outfoxed by two Ethernet cables?


    That annoyed me.

    It was a clumsy and somewhat lazy way for silva to escape.


  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    AgentJM7 wrote:
    What was the music playing from Silvas helicopter?

    EDIT: Found it - "Boom! Boom!" by John Lee Hooker

    The version in the film was by Charles Trenet.
  • AgentJM7AgentJM7
    Posts: 421
    I know that was the one playing on Silva's island, but I was talking about the stuff being blasted out by the helicopter during the assault on Skyfall - which is the JLH song. :)
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Ah, right. Sorry, I got the two mixed up I think.
  • AgentJM7AgentJM7
    Posts: 421
    Don't worry about it. I just love it that Silva uses music in such a sadistic way. Another reason why I think Skyfall really excels!
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Not only that music from the time before or of the novels.
  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
    Posts: 2,782
    Was Bond 'entering the dragon' another slice of wit from Mendes? I found the visual stunning. I'm going to love picking out all the little visual film gags he's put in.

    Two so far if entering the dragons mouth is right. The other one is the door spy glass. Clever man.
  • Alan007Alan007
    edited October 2012 Posts: 406
    darrenr wrote:
    Biggest question for me, if any of the really good fans on here can answer it...
    How is it suggested that Silva gets out of the locked glass "box" he was in,then through the other doors etc etc all the way onto the street? Was he controlling the Mi6 systems somehow, or had he just plre-timed events? If so, how would he know what the time was?? I'm rarely troubled by moments of "unreality" in a movie but this just seemed to be just accepted he had got out?

    Q was trying to hack into his laptop which Silva had tricked up to release him and hack MI6 system, so he had it pre planned, (so Q released him, accidently) he then went down to the underground via a hatch as Ben says above
  • darrenrdarrenr
    edited October 2012 Posts: 84
    Alan007 wrote:
    darrenr wrote:
    Biggest question for me, if any of the really good fans on here can answer it...
    How is it suggested that Silva gets out of the locked glass "box" he was in,then through the other doors etc etc all the way onto the street? Was he controlling the Mi6 systems somehow, or had he just plre-timed events? If so, how would he know what the time was?? I'm rarely troubled by moments of "unreality" in a movie but this just seemed to be just accepted he had got out?

    Q was trying to hack into his laptop which Silva had tricked up to release him and hack MI6 system, so he had it pre planned, (so Q released him, accidently) he then went down to the underground via a hatch as Ben says above

    Alan.......i bow to you for observing it so well =D> I get the bit with the hatch ,it was how he got out the glass box and past the guards that was baffling me....many thanks!

  • RisicoRisico
    Posts: 97
    darrenr wrote:
    Risico wrote:
    MartinBond wrote:
    BECAUSE IT'S. A. MOVIE. It's there for old time's sake!

    I still can't believe people are still complaining about that, drives me absolutely insane ~X(

    I'm sorry it's driving you insane, and you're right, it *is* a movie. But I was asking myself whilst watching it, what *kind* of movie am I watching; one where I'm expected to expect a consistent internal reality over the course of Craig's tenure, or one where I'm supposed to accept what I see in this film on its own isolated terms, ignoring anything that's gone before? I'm happy to do either, but I do think it's a problem to be caused to wonder this when I'm supposed to be fully engaged in the third act.

    I'm comfortable with all the "misplaced" times, I look at it this way; CR was the first book and so really, what they did with this is kind of put the front bookend to the franchise finally into film. They added QoS as a secondary item to it. SF come where it does, at the other end of the franchise, a story in its own right. So if you ignore the age of the films and whomever was playing Bond, then the DB5 gets modified in GF, reappears once or twice therafter, and comes in to play here again in SF. I think its fairly acceptable that way round....... I dont see it as Craigs/connerys/Moores etc tenure. Its all Bond.

    I'd be happy to look at it that way; it's just that on first viewing I found myself in a position where I felt like I had to quickly reconcile myself to *some* interpretation akin to yours and then try and get back into the story.
  • Discostu93Discostu93
    Posts: 2
    Skyfall is bonds family home

    Skyfall is in Scotland

    This therefore means James Bond is not English but is in fact Scottish

    ???
  • Risico007Risico007
    Posts: 9,848
    Seriously what game is bond playing in the casino?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,218
    Why did they seemingly replace the shot of Patrice falling? The one from the trailer was so much better.
  • JawsIsAliveJawsIsAlive
    edited October 2012 Posts: 233
    Discostu93 wrote:
    Skyfall is bonds family home

    Skyfall is in Scotland

    This therefore means James Bond is not English but is in fact Scottish

    ???

    I'm guessing you're not a fan of the books.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,187
    Discostu93 wrote:
    Skyfall is bonds family home

    Skyfall is in Scotland

    This therefore means James Bond is not English but is in fact Scottish

    ???

    (So was Connery. ;-) )

    The Fleming novels make Bond's Scottish heritage very clear.
  • Discostu93Discostu93
    Posts: 2
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Discostu93 wrote:
    Skyfall is bonds family home

    Skyfall is in Scotland

    This therefore means James Bond is not English but is in fact Scottish

    ???

    (So was Connery. ;-) )

    The Fleming novels make Bond's Scottish heritage very clear.

    Yeah I saw that. But in the film itself he states that he is English. But really he isn't as he lived in Scotland first. Moving later on to England. Damn bond is a jock.

    Bond, jimmy bond
  • 9eor9e9eor9e
    edited October 2012 Posts: 20
    Discostu93 wrote:
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Discostu93 wrote:
    Skyfall is bonds family home

    Skyfall is in Scotland

    This therefore means James Bond is not English but is in fact Scottish

    ???

    (So was Connery. ;-) )

    The Fleming novels make Bond's Scottish heritage very clear.

    Yeah I saw that. But in the film itself he states that he is English. But really he isn't as he lived in Scotland first. Moving later on to England. Damn bond is a jock.

    Bond, jimmy bond

    Does he actually state that he is English himself? There were several references to 'England' when 'Britain' would have been more technically accurate - I assumed this was due to a fear that 'Britain' wouldn't be understood by some foreigners who use England as a catch-all term for the UK.

    Of course, Bond is as much Swiss as he is Scottish.
  • DorsalAxeDorsalAxe
    edited October 2012 Posts: 1
    Zekidk wrote:
    When Bond and M arrive at Skyfall, the chapel is very close to the manor house.
    But when M and Kincade escape through the priesthole and exit on the moor the chapel is much, much farther away.
    Actually, that's the gamekeeper's hut (there's some pics of the set where the building is clearly not the chapel). The real error is that the hut just disappears entirely once Silva arrives to wreck up the place.
    Zekidk wrote:
    What happened to the harddisk?
    It's a MacGuffin[/quote] :p
    Risico wrote:
    Here's one: unless Alex Dimitrios owned a retro-gadgeted Aston Martin DB5... why the hell does the DB5 have an ejector seat and machine-guns?
    Definitely one of the less-sensical parts of the film. It's implied that a significant amount of time has passed between QoS and SF, so maybe the previous Q fitted it out at some point?

  • WhatwouldrogerdoWhatwouldrogerdo
    Posts: 69
    The DB5 with ejector seat and all is just a nice homage to the old films. 50 year anniversary and all.
    I personally didnt read anymore into it than that.
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