SKYFALL: FANS' REACTIONS - GUARANTEED SPOILERS

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  • Not everyone is going to like the film, we don't have to have a go at them for it.
    JamesCraig wrote:
    That's exactly the kind of criticism I despise. We are 6 years into DC's tenure as 007. It's very sad that there are still people who attack the man for his looks and/or clothing.

    I don't remember anyone attacking DC because of his clothes when CR was coming out. His hair and his looks yeah, but not his clothes.

    We're 10 years after Brosnans tenure ended and people still call him fat. It's been 23 years since LTK but people still say Dalton had no charm or was ugly. People still call Moore old, etc.

    Time has passed, it's not going to change people's opinions.
    Can't please everybody, and that's okay.

    ^^^this
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    JamesCraig wrote:
    maxcraig wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    Don't have much to say right now, except that the best scene was the final one with M's old office restored at last. At least they got that right. I quite liked Fiennes as well. That bodes well for the future I suppose. But DC, man you are really not growing in my appreciation. Stop running like a Terminator and get yourself a proper Savile Row tailor. Dear oh dear oh dear...
    Quite an argument.lol

    Savil Row ? What's the point ? Brosnan wore Brioni.


    That's exactly the kind of criticism I despise. We are 6 years into DC's tenure as 007. It's very sad that there are still people who attack the man for his looks and/or clothing.

    Does anyone here really take Getafix that seriously....?
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    He has the right to his opinion. But it's far removed from mine.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 12,837
    JamesCraig didn't know Getafix hated Brosnan so I don't think he knows Getafix very well.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    JamesCraig didn't know he hated Brosnan so I don't think he knows Getafix very well.

    I'm not talking about who he hates, I'm talking about his criticism which doesn't make much sense.

  • edited November 2012 Posts: 229

    I don't remember anyone attacking DC because of his clothes when CR was coming out. His hair and his looks yeah, but not his clothes.
    Don't you remember the criticism concerning Craig's shirt when the first pix of him were released by the time of Casino Royale.?
  • maxcraig wrote:

    I don't remember anyone attacking DC because of his clothes when CR was coming out. His hair and his looks yeah, but not his clothes.
    Don't you remember the criticism concerning Craig's shirt when the first pix of him were release by the time of Casino Royale.?
    I remember those days. What a long way we've come... sort of.
  • When I see the verb 'hate' showing up, I'm getting fed up.... It's a movie forum. It's not like a new 9/11 takes place.
  • When I see the verb 'hate' showing up, I'm getting fed up.... It's a movie forum. It's not like a new 9/11 takes place.
    Most people don't mean "hate" literally, just as the word "love" is thrown around in the same manner.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    I do remember that criticism. "It isn't what Bond wears".

    Dear God...
  • JamesCraig wrote:
    I do remember that criticism. "It isn't what Bond wears".

    Dear God...
    But of course. "Bond doesn't wear casual clothing! He sleeps in a dinner jacket!" :D
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    Yes! :D
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    When I see the verb 'hate' showing up, I'm getting fed up.... It's a movie forum. It's not like a new 9/11 takes place.
    Most people don't mean "hate" literally, just as the word "love" is thrown around in the same manner.

    But while the word love can have different levels hate is absolute and so it's a very strong word to use.
  • When I see the verb 'hate' showing up, I'm getting fed up.... It's a movie forum. It's not like a new 9/11 takes place.
    Most people don't mean "hate" literally, just as the word "love" is thrown around in the same manner.

    I wanna bet....if you count the words 'hate' and 'love' in this topic, the word 'hate' will prevail.
  • When I see the verb 'hate' showing up, I'm getting fed up.... It's a movie forum. It's not like a new 9/11 takes place.
    Most people don't mean "hate" literally, just as the word "love" is thrown around in the same manner.

    I wanna bet....if you count the words 'hate' and 'love' in this topic, the word 'hate' will prevail.
    I'd venture to say you're probably right. I don't argue the amount it's used, I just mean to say that people throw it around without actually meaning it. "Hate" and "dislike" have become synonyms to many people.
  • JamesCraigJamesCraig Ancient Rome
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    It's about time we get some more fan reviews.

    There's not shame in saying we lost a step.
  • JamesCraig wrote:
    It's about time we get some more fan reviews.

    There's not shame in saying we lost a step.
    I'm tempted to do mine now, but I usually don't allow myself to do so until I've seen the film at least twice. I will say it's somewhere in the top 3 for me, maybe even number 1. It's not without it's flaws, but it's almost precisely the Bond movie I've wanted to see for years and as of right now I give it a 4/5. Proper review coming sometime later this week.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Personally, I loved Bond's tailoring in Skyfall. Can't please everybody, and that's okay.

    Craig's suits in QoS and SF look great because they're tailored extremely well to suit his body size and shape and because Craig's in great shape, he wears the suit as opposed to the suit wearing him. I hope Tom Ford can continue his great work for at least the remainder if Craig's tenure and I hope that Jany Temime returns as costume designer.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    JamesCraig wrote:
    I do remember that criticism. "It isn't what Bond wears".

    Dear God...
    But of course. "Bond doesn't wear casual clothing! He sleeps in a dinner jacket!" :D

    Lol in Sean Connery's case he actually did, well a suit anyway.

  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
    edited November 2012 Posts: 4,012
    doubleoego wrote:
    Personally, I loved Bond's tailoring in Skyfall. Can't please everybody, and that's okay.

    Craig's suits in QoS and SF look great because they're tailored extremely well to suit his body size and shape and because Craig's in great shape, he wears the suit as opposed to the suit wearing him. I hope Tom Ford can continue his great work for at least the remainder if Craig's tenure and I hope that Jany Temime returns as costume designer.


    I asked the opinion of a tailor and he thought the suits were extremely well cut and fitted Craig perfectly! :-B
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Yep and it really helps if one has a good physique. In fact, having a good physique can turn an average looking suit into something spectacular.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    A new thread for sufficiently lengthy reviews, meant for future reference only, was created here.
  • Well i watched the film again and i did enjoy it more this time.still think it's a long way short of classic status and should have been a lot better.
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    Getafix wrote:
    My better half was not impressed by his performance at all. Her first comment after leaving the cinema was 'that's got to be his last Bond then'. She couldn't believe he'd signed on for another 2....

    This exact same thing happened to me! My significant other left the film saying "this has got to be his final film". I was like.. "uh.. no, he actually signed up for at least two more". He literally couldn't believe it. He said that Craig looks like he's 50 and was equally surprised to know he is really only 44. Also, just the way the character is handled in this entry, he seemed to be on very shaky grounds physically so it added to the impression of an agent at the end of his tenure.

    Just as quickie, although I enjoyed Skyfall, it is by no means a perfect movie (does such a thing exist?). Both my significant other and myself agreed on an 8/10 (although his first impression upon exiting was a 6/10). He had a big problem with the "lack" of Bond girl. Obviously Severine was there, but he felt she was merely a flash in the pan. He seemed to miss the grander "Bond-girl moments" with the lengthier, more charming seduction and the whole protecting the girl through portions of the film. I don't think he appreciated being saddled with M as a Bond girl for this one.

    I agreed with him to a certain extent, but my main complaint related to the third act. I won't go into an elaborate explanation but something about it just didn't quite add up for me.

    I liked the film very much, it was enjoyable. Not sure I loved it, it certainly didn't debunk my pre-existing top 5.

    By the way, I am incresingly disturbed by the hordes of angered fanboys attacking the few negative reviewers on RT. Whatever happened to freedom of speech. Do people really expect everybody to wax lyrical about a movie? Some people will have a more critical opinion and as long as said opinion is coherently stated, then why not respect it?

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    Does anyone here really take Getafix that seriously....?

    There is a King Canute quality to Getafix.

  • edited November 2012 Posts: 11,425
    Acton Steve, don't mistake a tidal wave of hype for the actual tide. These things, while initially overpowering and difficult to escape, have a way of subsiding.

    Having taken a peek at the Guardian website to see what they're all saying over there I'm reassured to find that I'm not the only one who thinks SF was a major disappointment. Infact on Comment is Free, that seems to be the prevailing view. Was worried there for a bit that I was in a minority of one, but it seems there are plenty of people out there who were thoroughly underwhelmed by SF.

    I'm sure it will all settle down on here after a month or two as well. Unlike OHMSS, LTK and QoS, I don't think SF is a film where the reputation is going to improve over time. It's gonna be a sinker. Overhyped on release and then sinking to the mid/lower end of the table over time.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Why are you bemused Getafix? I thought it was infinitely better than QOS and an improvement on CR and damn sight better than god Connery's final 2 EON entries.

    You didn't like it that is fine but please don't make out we are all deluded because we thoroughly enjoyed it, you were disappointed we certainly weren't and judging by the box office haul you are in the minority.
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    Shardlake wrote:
    Why are you bemused Getafix? I thought it was infinitely better than QOS and an improvement on CR and damn sight better than god Connery's final 2 EON entries.

    You didn't like it that is fine but please don't make out we are all deluded because we thoroughly enjoyed it, you were disappointed we certainly weren't and judging by the box office haul you are in the minority.
    He knows he is in the minority, and is lashing out in self defence, desperately hoping that he is right and everyone is wrong, or everyone will come round to his way of thinking eventually.

    It is really desperate stuff, you have to feel sorry for him I guess. Especially when he is clambering to The Guardian for reassurance, as if that paper is suddenly the Holy Grail of truth for James Bond.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Shardlake wrote:
    Why are you bemused Getafix? I thought it was infinitely better than QOS and an improvement on CR and damn sight better than god Connery's final 2 EON entries.

    You didn't like it that is fine but please don't make out we are all deluded because we thoroughly enjoyed it, you were disappointed we certainly weren't and judging by the box office haul you are in the minority.
    He knows he is in the minority, and is lashing out in self defence, desperately hoping that he is right and everyone is wrong, or everyone will come round to his way of thinking eventually.

    It is really desperate stuff, you have to feel sorry for him I guess. Especially when he is clambering to The Guardian for reassurance, as if that paper is suddenly the Holy Grail of truth for James Bond.

    I think that deep inside he "knows" he's right and the majority is wrong and so he is searching high and low for other who share his opinion. Fair enough, if it makes him happy.

    Concerning Craig looking old in the film, he is supposed to look old when he comes back from the dead, by the end he's looking great, I would say better than in CR. I usually look up to the old fans (originals) when it comes to certain matters, my mother (Bond-fan for +50 years and counting) was very shocked the other day when she called me because she had heard from Craig in an interview that his contract was for "just" another 2 films. In her own words, Connery was younger but looked a lot older when he left the role.

    By the way @Regan you say SF didn't debunk your pre-existing top 5 but I remember about a week ago you wrote that you still had a few Bond films you hadn't watched. I don't mean to offend but have you watched them all already?
  • Great film,only bettered by CR.
    Opening credits superb.Plenty of believable action,but character driven.
    All the leads brought something to the party,with the exception of Moneypenny,she didn't do it for me.
    Really enjoyed the second half, Bond in Britain.
    Music lacked Arnold's quality,except the first part of the closing titles.
    Have totally stayed away from any reviews,it came as a total shock when M died.
    Hope Mendes is back for the next one
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