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Skyfall, past Bond references???

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  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    Bond getting his PPK isn't a reference to anything.

    I think it might be a reference to DN. Yeah he needs his gun, but why make a point that he's getting a new one?

    The gun itself is definetly a LTK reference.
    The gun was shown being given to do that LTK reference. That's just my thoughts on it.

    Considering how quickly Bond got rid of it, I'm confident it was just a reference.
  • acoppolaacoppola London Ealing not far from where Bob Simmons lived
    edited November 2012 Posts: 1,243
    Signature gun from LTK for sure. Otherwise the 1964 Aston was not a reference either.

    And the reference to the concealed Beretta in Severine's thigh was to LTK as well. Pam Bouvier before DAD was the Bond girl who had one first.

    SF used references intelligently and even the DB5 was shown at the moment when things are going terrible for MI6. I actually liked seeing the DB5 in the film's context much more than GE or CR.
  • SpectreNumberOneSpectreNumberOne
    Posts: 129
    acoppola wrote:
    Signature gun from LTK for sure. Otherwise the 1964 Aston was not a reference either.

    And the reference to the concealed Beretta in Severine's thigh was to LTK as well. Pam Bouvier before DAD was the Bond girl who had one first.

    SF used references intelligently and even the DB5 was shown at the moment when things are going terrible for MI6. I actually liked seeing the DB5 in the film's context much more than GE or CR.

    Hi all, new to site. Just wanted to add that I think too much is read into so called references or maybe it's me with the exception of the DB5 it was too subtle to be anything other than coincidence.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    I picked up on these:

    "What were you expecting? An exploding pen? Sorry, we don't do that anymore." -GoldenEye

    "You must be joking." -Goldfinger

    Aston Martin DB5 -Goldfinger, Thunderball, GoldenEye, Casino Royale

    Silva's death, knife in the back -For Your Eyes Only (possibly)

    Attack on MI6 Headquarters -The World is not Enough

    "Are you going to eject me?" -Goldfinger

    Bond's false death -You Only Live Twice

    Train fight with Patrice in the PTS -Octopussy
  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
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    Knife throwing - OHMSS

    Baddy's False teeth - Jaws.

    Dragons and Laptop skulls - Live and Let Die

    DC in a towel - FRWL

    Tie wiggle at the end of PTS - GE tank tie wiggle





    Non-Bod reference - Bond on boat side view entering a dragon's mouth:

    Enter the Dragon



  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
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    The Aston Martin with the ejector seat and MGs
    Q mentioning exploding pens (GE)
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    Vesper Lynd as the first underwater girl in the title sequence - CR.
  • mwunder5mwunder5
    Posts: 1
    Two more references to add that seem to have been missing
    1. When they said for her eyes only-for your eyes only
    2. Q saying to 007: what did you expect an exploding pen?- referring to the exploding pen used in Goldeneye
  • cwl007cwl007 England
    Posts: 611
    The best reference by a mile is the last minute of the film. Moneypenny behind her desk and Bond stood in M's leather doored office ready for his next mission. Brilliant.
  • monkeytrumpetmonkeytrumpet
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    What about when Q is giving Bond his PPK, he mentions an exploding pen (Goldeneye)
    When he arrives in Macau with Eve he tells her to put her hand down from her ear (Casino Royale)
    Also at some point towards the start Bond says the words For Her Eyes Only.. which is pretty obvious.
  • ZHalfterZHalfter
    Posts: 198
    What I really love is that he tells Eve really early to put her hand down in Skyfall and thats pretty funny because he does not want to have another "Carter" on his hands...get it??
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,011
    ZHalfter wrote:
    What I really love is that he tells Eve really early to put her hand down in Skyfall and thats pretty funny because he does not want to have another "Carter" on his hands...get it??

    I loved catching that in the film. Almost a "here we go again" moment, until she saves Bond after he climbs back up from the dragon pit.
  • jackdaggerjackdagger
    Posts: 498
    I was watching the Bond marathon on Syfy and I noticed two more things that are probably coincidences, but I'm going to mention them anyway.
    Everyone has tied the scorpion to DAF, but there were also scorpions in the DAD opening titles (I'm sure everyone blocked it out of their memory, including me)
    Also there were two deer/stag statues in YOLT right after Bond kills Henderson's assassin.
  • JimThompson45JimThompson45
    edited November 2012 Posts: 803
    I don't know if this was intentional or not, but Bond's liaison with London (via Jamaica) in the original book Casino Royale was a fellow named Silva, if memory serves.
  • VirageVirage
    Posts: 1,856
    Happy and Glorious:

    The Helicopter used in the attack on Skyfall is the same model used in the short film.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    I can see more thing borrowed from the novels than references to past Bond films, personally:

    -Bond believed to be dead: YOLT/TMWTGG
    -Bond being out of shape and drinking too much: YOLT
    -Silva having rotten teeth because of cyanid: tbe bad teeth of Hugo Drax in MR? Okay, this one is far fetched. Still, I think the novel's Drax and SIlva have some things in common.
  • Dutch_SaladDutch_Salad
    Posts: 1
    Is this scene from license to kill not a reference from M's Hong Kong days?

    Licence to Kill (1989)

    [Kwang and his Hong Kong agents have captured Bond]
    Kwang: Who would have a signature gun?
    Fallon: James Bond.
    [examines the gun]
    Fallon: This is the property of Her Majesty's Government. How did *you* get it?
    James Bond: Piss off!
    Kwang: Who ordered you to kill Sanchez?
    Fallon: No one! He's a rogue agent. I've got orders to bring him back one way or another.
    Kwang: We're Hong Kong Narcotics, you BASTARD!
    [grabs Bond]
    Kwang: Sanchez is taking us to the heart of his operations. I've been setting it up for years!
    [menacingly]
    Kwang: I just hope that little stunt of yours hasn't scared him off!
    James Bond: [Sanchez' army is at the hideout] Get me out of these bloody things!
    Fallon: No, Commander. You're a loose cannon on deck.
    [prepares syringe]
    Fallon: I'm shipping you straight back to London.
    [Bond struggles until Sanchez' army attacks]

    At the end the Hong Kong agents kill themselves with cyanide
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    No I don't think so necessarily, they were merely agents from a specific country, I don't believe they had any relevance to M or where he was before

    Yes, the signature gun seemed a nod to License to Kill in Skyfall

    Ejector seat quip with M (Goldfinger) "Go on, eject me, see if I damn well care"!

    Early sequence in Turkey with Bond on the train seemed a little too 'Octopussy' but not quite so much fun

    And if the knife in the back was not some acknowledgement to Julian Glover in For Your Eyes Only, I don't know what was

    Even one of the knife throwing twins in Octopussy in East Germany even ?
  • SkierGirlSkierGirl
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    Did nobody else hear Q's comment to Bond "This is the new Q division, we don't really go in for exploding pens anymore". A direct reference to GoldenEye and the exploding pen that Q gives to Bond in that movie.
  • BrendogeBrendoge
    edited November 2012 Posts: 70
    The only two obviously intentional references in Skyfall are: the scenes with the references to the classic Goldfinger Aston Martin gadgets, and "You must be joking" in the Q introduction. The other four possible references are the possible Live & Let Die nod, where 007 stepped on the back of the Komodo Dragon, the mentioning of 'exploding pens', Bond telling Eve to stop touching her ear, and the issuing of the PPK.

    The rest aren't so much references as they are coincidental occurrences in Skyfall's storyline.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,385
    Brendoge wrote:
    The only two obviously intentional references in Skyfall are: the scenes with the references to the classic Goldfinger Aston Martin gadgets, and "You must be joking" in the Q introduction. The other four possible references are the possible Live & Let Die nod, where 007 stepped on the back of the Komodo Dragon, the mentioning of 'exploding pens', Bond telling Eve to stop touching her ear, and the issuing of the PPK.

    The rest aren't so much references as they are coincidental occurrences in Skyfall's storyline.

    I agree. I think that "Stop touching your ear" is the best reference because it is a Craig callback.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    SkierGirl wrote:
    Did nobody else hear Q's comment to Bond "This is the new Q division, we don't really go in for exploding pens anymore". A direct reference to GoldenEye and the exploding pen that Q gives to Bond in that movie.

    Many of us have noticed and discussed that. I believe the line is closer to "What were you expecting, an exploding pen? We don't really go in for things like that anymore."
  • mrnate8mrnate8
    Posts: 65
    PanchitoPistoles wrote:
    In my honest opinion:

    M writing Bond's obituary - NOT A REFERENCE
    Bond Dies - NOT A REFERENCE
    Explosion at MI6 HQ - NOT A REFERENCE
    Scorpion - NOT A REFERENCE
    To Q, "You must be joking" - Reference to Goldfinger.
    DB5 - A reference to many previous Bond films, not specifically to Goldfinger.
    Bond being issued PPK - Maybe a reference to Dr. No.
    Palm reading gun - NOT A REFERENCE
    "Be careful of what you wish for" - NOT A REFERENCE
    Bond, tied to a chair, with Silva - NOT A REFERENCE
    Silva next to fallen statue - NOT A REFERENCE
    Train top fight - NOT A REFERENCE
    Shower sex scene - NOT A REFERENCE
    Secluded villain's island - NOT A REFERENCE
    Scotland locations w/ Helicopter - NOT A REFERENCE
    Stag statue - NOT A REFERENCE

    I agree with PanchitoPistoles in believing only a few references were intentional, but the debate remains interesting.

    What about "for her eyes only" after Bond removes bullet shards from chest for analyzing or Q's sarcastic exploding pen comment?

    In regards to the DB5, the references that stands out to me specifically are the humorous ejector seat comment with M enroute to Skyfall and the gun/headlights during movie's climax. Reason being is because we already saw previous appearances in GE and CR.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited November 2012 Posts: 41,011
    I thought the "Don't touch your ear." line was a reference to CR, in the fact that Craig's Bond always seems to be paired with rookie types that don't know how to be discreet when communicating.
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,229
    mrnate8 wrote:
    PanchitoPistoles wrote:
    In my honest opinion:

    M writing Bond's obituary - NOT A REFERENCE
    Bond Dies - NOT A REFERENCE
    Explosion at MI6 HQ - NOT A REFERENCE
    Scorpion - NOT A REFERENCE
    To Q, "You must be joking" - Reference to Goldfinger.
    DB5 - A reference to many previous Bond films, not specifically to Goldfinger.
    Bond being issued PPK - Maybe a reference to Dr. No.
    Palm reading gun - NOT A REFERENCE
    "Be careful of what you wish for" - NOT A REFERENCE
    Bond, tied to a chair, with Silva - NOT A REFERENCE
    Silva next to fallen statue - NOT A REFERENCE
    Train top fight - NOT A REFERENCE
    Shower sex scene - NOT A REFERENCE
    Secluded villain's island - NOT A REFERENCE
    Scotland locations w/ Helicopter - NOT A REFERENCE
    Stag statue - NOT A REFERENCE

    I agree with PanchitoPistoles in believing only a few references were intentional, but the debate remains interesting.

    What about "for her eyes only" after Bond removes bullet shards from chest for analyzing or Q's sarcastic exploding pen comment?

    In regards to the DB5, the references that stands out to me specifically are the humorous ejector seat comment with M enroute to Skyfall and the gun/headlights during movie's climax. Reason being is because we already saw previous appearances in GE and CR.

    I think many people confuse a reference to a commonplace/recurrence. A shower sex scene, Bond being tied up, those are things that will show up from time to time in a Bond movie, just like Bond walking in a casino.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    You can't compare Bond 'having sex in a shower' with Bond enters a casino, I mean there's a bit of a difference in regularities between the two !

    I can only remember Bond in a shower with a girl twice, which was Skyfall and that most unsavory incident with Moore and Roberts in 1985. The least said the better

    There may have been one other instance in the series but damned if I can remember it right now

    Spent far too much time here this night, so it's a Goodnight

    (will sleep easy I'm not married to Bobbitt in any event)
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    You can't compare Bond 'having sex in a shower' with Bond enters a casino, I mean there's a bit of a difference in regularities between the two !

    I can only remember Bond in a shower with a girl twice, which was Skyfall and that most unsavory incident with Moore and Roberts in 1985. The least said the better

    There may have been one other instance in the series but damned if I can remember it right now

    Spent far too much time here this night, so it's a Goodnight

    (will sleep easy I'm not married to Bobbitt in any event)

    There was a Bond girl in a shower in TMWTGG, in CR... Then there is also a sauna (I think) in TB. Maybe not as common as a casino, but 1)it is a reoccurence and 2)in previous movies, they were not overtly memorable scenes, except in CR, where it was very different from Skyfall anyway. Bond does not get tied up in every movie either, but it happened in the past. It is something that happens more than once when the script requires it, not a reference to previous Bond stories.
  • PizzamanPizzaman
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    Let's not forget the OBIT that appeared in the London Times in YOLT.
  • PizzamanPizzaman
    Posts: 7
    'Exploding pen' reference could also bring to mind, 'Never Say Never Again.
  • PizzamanPizzaman
    edited December 2012 Posts: 7
    Definitely agree with the 'Live & Let Die' croc step up. Istanbul Turkey and St. Sophia should bring to mind, 'From Russia With Love'. The only thing missing in the M's office sequence was throwing a hat onto the coat rack.
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