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Hand-to-hand Combat Fights: The Best of Bond

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  • LiberaLibera
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    It's not bond but Necros vs the security guy in the Kitchen in TLD is the best fight from the whole series in my opinion.
  • ElliotCarverElliotCarver
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    Libera wrote:
    It's not bond but Necros vs the security guy in the Kitchen in TLD is the best fight from the whole series in my opinion.

    I'm inclined to agree. The fun thing is that we're lead to believe that he's just a stuffy butler, yet he puts up almost more of a fight against Necros than even Bond! Love that fight.
  • LiberaLibera
    Posts: 12
    Yes the fight choreography is pure class. That's what makes it - he even uses a jackie Chan style approach in using the kitchen bits around him.
  • ElliotCarverElliotCarver
    Posts: 249
    Libera wrote:
    Yes the fight choreography is pure class. That's what makes it - he even uses a jackie Chan style approach in using the kitchen bits around him.

    That pan full of boiling water always makes me wince, that looks like it could hurt.

    If I have to do a top three list it would look something like this.

    1. Bond vs Necros on the cargo plane
    2. Bond vs Greene at the exploding hotel
    3. Stuffy Butler vs Necros at the MI6 kitchen.
    Honorable mention goes to Bond vs Obanno in the stairwell at Casino Royale. The choreography in that fight is amazing.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    I didn't really like the Casino fight in SF. It didn't feel brutal, energetic or dangerous, just some bland fighting in front of some CGI dragons.

    Some nice one liners at the end though.
  • ElliotCarverElliotCarver
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    thelivingroyale wrote:
    I didn't really like the Casino fight in SF. It didn't feel brutal, energetic or dangerous, just some bland fighting in front of some CGI dragons.

    Some nice one liners at the end though.

    That's exactly why I was disappointed with the fights in Skyfall as well, seeing as that was probably the best one. But I have to say, Silva's death was way more satisfying than a long brawl.

  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    The fights in Skyfall were bizarre if nothing else. Bond in a battle, in company with Komodo Dragons and Jellyfish ? /:)

    You can't help but laugh

    If they had given us something half as good as the stairs fight with Obanno in Royale it would of made for good entertainment, but they took a different route, and it didn't quite work

    Computer generated imagery of komodo dragons FFS ! That was just absurd

    Some silly nonsense on an otherwise very good release, but it didn't spoilt the overall enjoyment, but as CGI has entered the world of James Bond now, you do have to imagine what they may come up with for the next release if they continue on this path

    Goodnight
  • actonsteveactonsteve
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    Baltimore_007 wrote:
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    Computer generated imagery of komodo dragons FFS ! That was just absurd

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    So how else could you do komodo dragons in a movie? Get real ones in?

    Watch them snooze and not move around the set. And when they do move see the camerman as dinner. The bite of these things is poisonous - they are highly dangerous.

    The cgi worked for me. I just liked the idea of komodo dragons being kept in a casino like white tigers at Caesars Palace. Its one of the little touches of the bizarre that Fleming had in his books like barracuda in TB or giant squid in DN.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, I wasn't very crazy about:
    the fight scene in Macau with the briefcase. It just didn't present any danger or excitement to me, as the komodo dragons and the look on Bond's face when he sees them just made it too comedic. But, I absolutely love the fight between he and Patrice. Like you said, the shots firing off occasionally and lighting their faces up for a brief moment is pure beauty.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    I think the best fight was the one in the PTS on top of the train. Really exciting. The one in the skyscraper wasn't bad either, it looked pretty anyway.

    I think the fights in SF were a bit of a step down. I felt mixed on CR and I hated QOS, but one of the things I always have really liked in Craigs films are the brutal fight scenes.

    Nothing in SF was on the same level as the stair or bathroom fight in CR imo, none of the fights matched the brutality of those two.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, I wasn't very crazy about:
    the fight scene in Macau with the briefcase. It just didn't present any danger or excitement to me, as the komodo dragons and the look on Bond's face when he sees them just made it too comedic. But, I absolutely love the fight between he and Patrice. Like you said, the shots firing off occasionally and lighting their faces up for a brief moment is pure beauty.

    I just love
    Bond toasting them, then acting coy before he lifts the case and smacks them into submission with it. And the komodo scene was realistic to me. Bond is pretty much saying "OH CRAP, I MAY GET EATEN." The guy he is fighting doesn't give a toss, picks Bond up and slams him down without a care. I loved that. And then when Bond says "good luck with that" after being aimed at with his Walter following by him jumping on the komodo dragon and coming back on the bridge again (with Eve saving his head from being blown off) was all rather cool.
    Skyfall has no complaints from me on the action. I am a fan of older films that couldn't rely on action, so I have come to enjoy scenes of dialogue. Plus, action in the films aren't the only things that can excite you. I get moved simply by
    M reading a piece by Tennyson 1,000X times over than a crazy chase through a crowded city.
    That's the magic of Skyfall.
  • JimThompson45JimThompson45
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    Just in terms of being the most honest, brutal fight scene in the Bond films, the final fight between Bond and Trevelyan in Goldeneye ranks at or near the top for me. Bond's confrontation with Edmund Slate in Haiti in Quantum is also really well done, I think.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited December 2012 Posts: 12,837
    JimThompson45 wrote:
    Just in terms of being the most honest, brutal fight scene in the Bond films, the final fight between Bond and Trevelyan in Goldeneye ranks at or near the top for me.

    I do love that one. You really do get the sense that it's two childhood friends beating the crap out of eachother in a brutal fight to the death on a radio tower. Definetly Brosnans best fight, and I thought it was really well choreographed.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I don't classify the final fight with Bond and Alec as brutal at all. It's an okay fight, but probably out of my top 10.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    I don't classify the final fight with Bond and Alec as brutal at all. It's an okay fight, but probably out of my top 10.

    Out of intrest what's your top 10?

    I think it's brutal. They're slamming eachother into walls, kicking eachother down ladders, etc. Much more brutal than the casino fight in SF that's for sure. My top 10 Bond fights are probably

    1) Bond vs Necros (cargo net)
    2) Bond vs Alec
    3) Bond vs the tranny in the TB PTS
    4) Bond vs Red Grant
    5) Bond vs Obanno (stair fight)
    6) Bond vs Jaws at the pyramids
    7) Bond vs the guard in OHMSS (before the ski chase)
    8) Bond vs Dario n co (LTK bar fight)
    9) Bond vs the thug in the toilets (CR PTS)
    10) Bond vs Patrice on the train
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    JimThompson45 wrote:
    Just in terms of being the most honest, brutal fight scene in the Bond films, the final fight between Bond and Trevelyan in Goldeneye ranks at or near the top for me. Bond's confrontation with Edmund Slate in Haiti in Quantum is also really well done, I think.

    Well said. This is exactly how I feel.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    A Top Ten Best:

    007 vs. Alec Trevelyan (GoldenEye)
    007 vs. Peter Franks (Diamonds Are Forever)
    007 vs. Dominic Greene (Quantum of Solace)
    007 vs. Stephen Obanno (Casino Royale)
    007 vs. Slate (Quantum of Solace)
    007 vs. Donald "Red" Grant (From Russia with Love)
    007 vs. Emilio Largo and SPECTRE thugs (Thunderball)
    007 vs. Tee Hee (Live and Let Die)
    007 vs. Nightclub Thugs (The Man with the Golden Gun)
    007 vs. Che Che (On Her Majesty's Secret Service)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @00Beast, excellent list. A good majority of these would be on mine.
  • jka12002jka12002 Banned
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    The fight scene in the hotel in OHMSS would have been better with out the constant grunting from the other guy. On the very first time i watched OHMSS i thought Bond was making those wierd sounds
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    jka12002 wrote:
    The fight scene in the hotel in OHMSS would have been better with out the constant grunting from the other guy. On the very first time i watched OHMSS i thought Bond was making those wierd sounds

    Hahaha! That's a really great point; those cheesy inflicted-pain grunts don't help that scene out very much. Thankfully, the fighting style is excellent and fast-paced, as well as close-quarters, which I always enjoy in a Bond fight, as my list probably showed!
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    Was there grunting involved ? I'll have to have another watch sometime, but it is - a very good fight for the most part - and Lazenby crowns it all with the timeclass 'gatecrasher' quip

    I thought the fight with Tee-hee on the train was OK, if a little brief. Was that an acknowledgement to Connery and Shaw from Russia ?, because it never worked. Same goes for Moore and Kiel in The Spy Who Loved Me. If that was their intention, you'll never beat the original and best, and they shouldn't have attempted (in retrospect)
  • jka12002jka12002 Banned
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    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    Was there grunting involved ? I'll have to have another watch sometime, but it is - a very good fight for the most part - and Lazenby crowns it all with the timeclass 'gatecrasher' quip

    Yeah that black guy kept going "MMMM UGGH HUUH" at random times during the fight
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    Even that short sequence tells you how good Lazenby could of been as James Bond - if only he'd been given the opportunity

    Damn his agent
  • thelordflasheartthelordflasheart
    Posts: 1,370
    jka12002 wrote:
    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    Was there grunting involved ? I'll have to have another watch sometime, but it is - a very good fight for the most part - and Lazenby crowns it all with the timeclass 'gatecrasher' quip

    Yeah that black guy kept going "MMMM UGGH HUUH" at random times during the fight

    To be honest, the "grunting" doesn't bother me in the least. Given how dynamic and energetic the fight is, it seems natural!

  • 00Beast00Beast
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    Top Ten:

    (1) Bond vs. Alec Trevelyan
    (2) Bond vs. Donald "Red" Grant
    (3) Bond vs. Peter Franks
    (4) Bond vs. Beirut Nightclub Thugs
    (5) Bond vs. Obanno
    (6) Bond vs. Dominic Greene
    (7) Bond vs. Emilio Largo and Disco Volante Crew
    (8) Bond vs. Tee Hee
    (9) Bond vs. Hans
    (10) Bond vs. Stamper
  • timmertimmer
    edited December 2013 Posts: 4,622
    The best hand-to-hand battlers were Connery, Laz and Craig IMO. I don't think the other three are even in the same league, certainly not Rog or Broz.

    To that end, I give the nod to Sean's epic battle with Red Grant, followed by Sean versus the widow Jacques Bouvar in TB. Sean versus Peter Franks in DAF was a pretty solid punch-up as well. Connery's battle with Blofeld bodyguard Hans I think was nicely done, as there was so much riding on the outcome. The safety of the free world hung in the balance, with Bond needing to get by this one last very formidable obstacle before he could reach the capsule destruct button. The sheer suspense. The drama. Heartstopping Mr. Wint....speaking, of the final showdown with Blofeld's killer pair had some great entertainment value as well. Very satisfying to see these two finally get their comeuppance.
    I hesitate to include Bond vs Oddjob as that was a terribly one-sided battle that Bond managed to survive by using his formidable improvisation skills. But again much like the later battle with Hans at the Spectre volcano, so much was riding on the outcome.
    This James Bond fellow has truly heroic ablities to deliver when all is hanging in the balance. Give this man a medal!
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
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    Bond vs. Grant
    Bond vs. Peter Franks
    Bond vs. Trevelyan
    Bond vs. Necros
    Bond vs. Largo/henchman

    just a few of the best that come to mind, but I don't have any numbered list.
  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Toronto
    edited March 2014 Posts: 2,402
    Good lord, I can't believe I've ever noticed this:

    In Dr. No, when Bond fights Quarrell and Pussfeller, in the shot where he throws Pussfeller, the stunt double is a WHITE GUY. And it's absolutely, 100% clear as day. They don't even try to hide it. I always enjoyed this very brief bit of fisticuffs but now I'll never look at it the same way. Apologies if this isn't quite on topic, but I didn't know where else to post it.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    I never really appreciated the elevator brawl with Franks from DAF. I think it appears better than it actually is, because it's part of such a poor overall release. A pair of grasshoppers in a jar having a dispute would of presented a decent fight on the stage of that awful crap release

    I think the fight with Grant on the Orient Express appears a little exaggerated sometimes, and more recent examples such as Bond and Trevelyan in Cuba and Bond and Necros over Afghanistan provided far better entertainment

    The Bond / Hans tussle from You Only Live Twice had the potential to be one of the best ever, but it was over too quickly and the Hans character was never properly utilized. Think in retrospect they could of done so much more, than what was presented
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    Bond vs. Grant was just amazing, my favorite fight of the Connery era for sure. I also love Lazenby Bond vs. Savalas Blofeld (and really all the fights in OHMSS; very well-done), Moore vs. Tee Hee, Moore vs. Jaws (all 3 from TSWLM are good), Dalton vs. Sanchez, Brosnan vs. Alec, Craig vs. Patrice (and many other of Craig's fist fights were also awesome)
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