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  • mdo007mdo007 Katy, Texas
    edited November 2012 Posts: 259
    bondsum wrote:
    mdo007 wrote:
    Oh by the way, did you know Hitchcock was offered to direct James Bond film several time. Even Fleming wanted Hitchcock to direct a JB film, this was talk about on another topic.

    Without North by Northwest, I guess From Russia with Love wouldn't have been a good attention grabber. FRWL was influenced by Hitchcock's North by Northwest (and some of his other film) and Skyfall did it again (using The Dark Knight as a major inspiration).
    I've just seen this post, so sorry for my belated response, @mdo007.

    Yes, I did know that Hitchcock was approached by Ian Fleming when he was working on his "LONGITUDE 78 WEST" screenplay in 1959. It wasn't several times though. In fact EON offered the director's chair to Val Guest, Guy Hamilton, Ken Hughes and Guy Green before settling on Terence Young. The story of Hitchcock's involvement is mostly down to Fleming wanting a big name director to help finance his first Bond project with Xanadu Productions. Of course this never happened and Saltzman bought the rights to the majority of the Bond books. It's true that EON sought the services of Cary Grant though this was rejected when he wouldn't commit to more than one picture. Grant had the looks but his lighter touch would have been complete polar opposites to the earthy physical grace of Connery, giving the film an altogether different texture. However, I've read no reports that EON approached Hitchcock first.

    The book FRWL (1956) was also written a few years before NBNW (1959) so it's not feasibly possible that Hitchcock's film had any influence or bearing on the overall story, apart from the insertion of the helicopter chase in the movie.

    Though I will happily admit, therefore willing to concede, that Skyfall has taken inspiration from TDK alongside Bourne. :)>-

    I know Hitchcock was never offered from EON, but before EON produced Bond films, Hitchcock was offered to direct Bond: Remember the Climax! version of Casino Royale, he was offered to direct that, and the 2nd time he was offered to direct what would've became Thunderball. This article has evidence of this:

    http://shortknighthitchblog.blogspot.com/2011/04/alfred-hitchcocks-casino-royale-or.html#!/2011/04/alfred-hitchcocks-casino-royale-or.html

    So Hitchcock almost did James Bond a few years before Dr. No. I never said EOn offered Hitchcock to direct (although that would've been cool if they did that) I do agreed Cary Grant wouldn't have done Bond because he was too old, if Grant was born in 1930 instead of 1904, he could've fit perfectly for Bond. Hitchcock could've probably gotten Rod Taylor (who he work with on The Bird) to also portray as Bond if it went that way.

    But back on topic

    @mrnate8: I can accept Bale as Bond but I heard he didn't want to play as 007. Hardy, well he's my future candidate for Bond after Craig's tenure as Bond is over (Michael Fassbender is also one of my other contender). But Leonardo Dicaprio, what were you thinking when you type this? He's not even British or coming close to looking like 007. I can accept him as a Bond villain, maybe Felix leiter (although I want Aaron Eckhart as Leiter. No Joseph Gordon Levitt as Felix please!!!)

    I wouldn't mind Han Zimmer doing the music for a future Bond theme. It's not like he's going to replace the iconic Bond theme with something else, he could make the Bond theme sound memorable, how many time have we heard Bond theme from other composer other then John Barry? I don't see how Zimmer's version would be any different.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I don't doubt that Zimmer could do a good Bond theme. It's the score I'd be worried about. I wouldn't want the score to be plain and themeless like his Batman Scores.
  • mrnate8mrnate8
    edited November 2012 Posts: 65
    mdo007 wrote:
    @mrnate8: I can accept Bale as Bond but I heard he didn't want to play as 007. Hardy, well he's my future candidate for Bond after Craig's tenure as Bond is over (Michael Fassbender is also one of my other contender). But Leonardo Dicaprio, what were you thinking when you type this? He's not even British or coming close to looking like 007. I can accept him as a Bond villain, maybe Felix leiter (although I want Aaron Eckhart as Leiter. No Joseph Gordon Levitt as Felix please!!!)

    LOL. I included that deliberately to gauge reactions.

  • DoctorKaufmannDoctorKaufmann Can shoot you from Stuttgart and still make it look like suicide.
    edited November 2012 Posts: 1,261
    Funny, really, people all wanted Arnold out and were happy when Newman came on board. Now they want Arnold back. Maybe their expectations of Newman's score were too high? IMO it's a very solid score with some nice tracks, fits in with the movie (no over-scoring à la Zimmer), but it's not the genious masterpiece people had hoped for. And we should accept it, John Barry is gone (apart from the fact that he left the franchise after TLD) forever. Fact.

    And back on topic: Of course it would be great if Nolan would do a Bond movie. But he probably would want to get complete control over the movie (he and his wife Emma Thomas produce his won movies), the actors, the writers (his brother Jonatahan and he himself), etc.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    DoctorKaufmann wrote:
    Funny, really, people all wanted Arnold out and were happy when Newman came on board. Now they want Arnold back. Maybe their expectations of Newman's score were too high? IMO it's a very solid score with some nice tracks, fits in with the movie (no over-scoring à la Zimmer), but it's not the genious masterpiece people had hoped for. And we should accept it, John Barry is gone (apart from the fact that he left the franchise after TLD) forever. Fact.

    I'm one of the few who liked Arnold and was saddened when I heard he wasn't doing Skyfall, but since I've heard alot of Newman's work. (Wall-E is my favorite Newman Score.)I was excited to see what he could bring to Bond. It's just sad he didn't score Skyfall at a good of level as Wall-E or UP.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Screw Zimmer. Bring on Harry Gregson Williams! His work on the MGS series enslaves all.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    doubleoego wrote:
    Screw Zimmer. Bring on Harry Gregson Williams! His work on the MGS series enslaves all.

    I second this! :D
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
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    Murdock wrote:
    I don't doubt that Zimmer could do a good Bond theme. It's the score I'd be worried about. I wouldn't want the score to be plain and themeless like his Batman Scores.

    His Batman scores to me use the same themes over and over but his Sherlock Holmes scores are really good.
  • battleshipgreygtbattleshipgreygt
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    I'm all for Zimmer doing a Bond score, however the series seems to be moving in a more traditional direction and I don't know if Nolan would be interested in making that kind of film, If it was something along the lines of Casino Royale or Skyfall, then I could see it.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Just because certain characters are now being reintroduced don't fool yourself into thinking we're going to be getting the "traditional James Bond film". We are past that and SF went out if it's way toconvey such a statement. At the very least, as long as Craig is Bond, the movies are going to be made from the same mould as CR and SF.
  • battleshipgreygtbattleshipgreygt
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    doubleoego wrote:
    Just because certain characters are now being reintroduced don't fool yourself into thinking we're going to be getting the "traditional James Bond film". We are past that and SF went out if it's way toconvey such a statement. At the very least, as long as Craig is Bond, the movies are going to be made from the same mould as CR and SF.
    Well I hope that is the case, hopefully they don't revert to the old bad habits.
  • ShaankarimShaankarim
    edited December 2012 Posts: 2
    He STOLE the idea from "The world is not enough" for The Dark knight rises", I don't think he could be good choice, first his films has no humor, even the beginning, of TDKR stole from Clifhanger... both his brother and him, usually trying to steal from old movies.....
  • ShaankarimShaankarim
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    He STOLE the idea from "The world is not enough" for The Dark knight rises", I don't think he could be good choice, first his films has no humor, even the beginning, of TDKR stole from Clifhanger... both his brother and him, usually trying to steal from old movies.....
  • Arsenal02071Arsenal02071
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    I haven't yet seen a Nolan film that I didn't thoroughly enjoy! Skyfall has taken us to a more emotional and character developed side of the series and this could set us up for the type of directing Nolan would bring to Bond. He's now got tools to work with and he can start fresh with a new M and Monneypenny and a very young Q. The reboot trilogy is complete and bringing Nolan in now would make sense to me. I would love this to be honest, I think he could even take the series to untested waters and knowing what he did with the Batman trilogy, I think he would do a fantastic job.
  • bondsumbondsum
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    Actually the beginning of TDKR was inspired by License To Kill's PTO, @Shaankarim.
  • mdo007mdo007 Katy, Texas
    edited December 2012 Posts: 259
    Shaankarim wrote:
    He STOLE the idea from "The world is not enough" for The Dark knight rises", I don't think he could be good choice, first his films has no humor, even the beginning, of TDKR stole from Clifhanger... both his brother and him, usually trying to steal from old movies.....

    I think those are homages (if they're rip off, then why don't you go after From Russia with Love for ripping off North by Northwest when the helicopter running over Bond similar to the airplane trying to run over Cary Grant), did you know Inception had a snowtop mountain that made a nod to OHMSS.

    Aso the Dark Knight rises was based on several Batman comic:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Knightfall

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Man's_Land_(comics)

    As I stand, I would love and support Chris Nolan if he direct the next Bond film.

  • Hayes004Hayes004
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    I think this could be great. I personally loved Inception and the Batman films.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    maxcraig wrote:
    thelivingroyale wrote:

    No they shouldn't. I think every film has it's place in the series and they should move forward instead of remaking past films. And I think the producers would agree with me. They can use stuff they didn't use in past book adaptions in new films.

    Sorry to anyone who's a Fleming purist but don't expect a faithful to the book remake of MR or TMWTGG any time soon.
    But the more faithful the better. Every Bond movie that wasn't a faithful adaptation or not based on the books is a hit or miss.
    You are counting out most of the films there, mate.
  • DobleCero7DobleCero7
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    No. Please no. His talent may work for other movies, but for a Bond movie he will needs to reinvent himself. This is not Gotham City.
  • 00130013
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    If Nolan comes, he'll probably want to reinvent the franchise. He already had that with CR and, in some sense, with SF. I think we need a competent action director that gives a standard good adventure.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    0013 wrote:
    If Nolan comes, he'll probably want to reinvent the franchise. He already had that with CR and, in some sense, with SF. I think we need a competent action director that gives a standard good adventure.

    That's how I feel. I think Nolan's Bond would just be entirely different and would try to reinvent and spice things up, and he would want to make it a grand vision story like the Batman trilogy of his.
  • mdo007mdo007 Katy, Texas
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    DobleCero7 wrote:
    No. Please no. His talent may work for other movies, but for a Bond movie he will needs to reinvent himself. This is not Gotham City.

    I don't think he'll do that since Bond already got rebooted. I think he'll do Bond the same way like other he'll probably follow Sam Mendes style of directing mix with his own.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    0013 wrote:
    If Nolan comes, he'll probably want to reinvent the franchise. He already had that with CR and, in some sense, with SF. I think we need a competent action director that gives a standard good adventure.
    As much as I love Nolan, I agree with some of this. Like it or not, Bond does have some heavy action in it as trademark, and Nolan needs work on his action direction. Re watching Inceptions it becomes evident. Much encased in the frame gets cut off and too many fast cuts to other frames of action make the composition of the shot look sloppy. Does anyone know if he uses a second unit, or does he shoot everything from drama/dialogue scenes to the action? I have never been sure. I am sure he directs some of the more low key action, but maybe second unit handles stuff like the tumbler chases in the Batman films and the larger scale fights in Inception?
  • MalloryMallory
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7

    Nolan doesn't have a second unit director. He does pretty much everything himself, for better or worse.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited December 2012 Posts: 28,694
    Mallory wrote:
    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7

    Nolan doesn't have a second unit director. He does pretty much everything himself, for better or worse.

    I thought so, but thanks for the confirmation on that. My opinions still stand then. If he takes on a second unit for the action we may have our hands on a class A Bond film, but Nolan does like things much in his own vision.

  • mdo007mdo007 Katy, Texas
    edited January 2013 Posts: 259
    Also I look around and found how James Bond influence on his films (The Dark Knight, Inception):

    http://www.cultbox.co.uk/features/countdowns/4543-top-5-influences-of-james-bond-on-christopher-nolan

    Nolan knows his Bond films really well, I think he's has huge potential to do a Bond film. Gregg Wilson, and Chris Corbould (special effect director for Skyfall and Inception) both said Chris Nolan can pull off a Bond film. Also Sam Mendes said Skyfall was influence by The Dark Knight and Mendes said he would love Nolan to direct a Bond film. As I said, what's the harm of having Nolan manning a Bond film since Nolan himself was a long time Bond fan.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    mdo007 wrote:
    Also I look around and found how James Bond influence on his films (The Dark Knight, Inception):

    http://www.cultbox.co.uk/features/countdowns/4543-top-5-influences-of-james-bond-on-christopher-nolan

    Nolan knows his Bond films really well, I think he's has huge potential to do a Bond film. Gregg Wilson, and Chris Corbould (special effect director for Skyfall and Inception) both said Chris Nolan can pull off a Bond film. Also Sam Mendes said Skyfall was influence by The Dark Knight and Mendes said he would love Nolan to direct a Bond film. As I said, what's the harm of having Nolan manning a Bond film since Nolan himself was a long time Bond fan.

    Because Nolan would want complete creative control.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    mdo007 wrote:
    Also I look around and found how James Bond influence on his films (The Dark Knight, Inception):

    http://www.cultbox.co.uk/features/countdowns/4543-top-5-influences-of-james-bond-on-christopher-nolan

    Nolan knows his Bond films really well, I think he's has huge potential to do a Bond film. Gregg Wilson, and Chris Corbould (special effect director for Skyfall and Inception) both said Chris Nolan can pull off a Bond film. Also Sam Mendes said Skyfall was influence by The Dark Knight and Mendes said he would love Nolan to direct a Bond film. As I said, what's the harm of having Nolan manning a Bond film since Nolan himself was a long time Bond fan.

    Because Nolan would want complete creative control.

    What evidence is there stating that?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Murdock wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    mdo007 wrote:
    Also I look around and found how James Bond influence on his films (The Dark Knight, Inception):

    http://www.cultbox.co.uk/features/countdowns/4543-top-5-influences-of-james-bond-on-christopher-nolan

    Nolan knows his Bond films really well, I think he's has huge potential to do a Bond film. Gregg Wilson, and Chris Corbould (special effect director for Skyfall and Inception) both said Chris Nolan can pull off a Bond film. Also Sam Mendes said Skyfall was influence by The Dark Knight and Mendes said he would love Nolan to direct a Bond film. As I said, what's the harm of having Nolan manning a Bond film since Nolan himself was a long time Bond fan.

    Because Nolan would want complete creative control.

    What evidence is there stating that?

    What do you mean? He's an auteur. He is very much the head honcho of his projects and would naturally want to do things his way. I feel there may be contention with him and EON, where he wants to do things a certain way that they don't agree with.
  • ThepastykidThepastykid
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    Nolan had final cut on The Dark Knight Rises - very unusual for large studios film. He is at the peak of his creative control because of his box office returns in recent years.
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