Producer says Daniel Craig's tenure may end when it peaks

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  • Posts: 1,082
    craigrules wrote:
    I haven't watched the full trailer yet just the teaser, trying hard to aviod spoilers, like the likely lads avoiding a football result.I do hope this film is good though.

    I'm not gonna tell you anything about the trailer, except that it completely destroys the teaser IMO.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    craigrules wrote:
    I haven't watched the full trailer yet just the teaser, trying hard to aviod spoilers, like the likely lads avoiding a football result.I do hope this film is good though.

    I'm not gonna tell you anything about the trailer, except that it completely destroys the teaser IMO.

    Every trailer should beat the teaser. That's the point.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    September is close and should bring the final poster, then in October we may have the title song. These are my 2 remaining hugely anticipated events until SF hits the screens. Can't wait!
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2012 Posts: 13,355
    I think the title song artist will be announced and the song released in very short proximity to each other, sometime next month. The last two songs were both released in September too, as a matter of interest. The announcement(s) will spearhead the last big promotional push just before Skyfall is released.
  • Yes, adding "in my opinion" after every single statement would be ridiculous.

    I do this almost all the time, or sometimes replace it with something like "I think". :D
    But that's because when I didn't, it seemed that the mad cow disease started to spread here among some members.

    Yeah I remember a few months back when you and Germanlady got into a big argument about opinions.


    Anyway, we'd better get back on topic: Craig won't do 8 films, and SF won't be his last one. Both of MGW's quotes were pretty much BS.

    Again, to be fair, MGW didn't specifically say Skyfall might be Craig's last, but he did say you had to be ready to replace a 007 star even though they're still at the peak of popularity.

    Still, that runs counter to the "I hope Daniel does eight" comments he made in December (that's not a direct quote, but we can all do addition to figure out how many it would take for him to break Roger Moore's record). Nobody was talking about Craig doing eight until MGW made the December comment.

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    Still, that runs counter to the "I hope Daniel does eight" comments

    No it doesn't. Wilson hopes Craig will do eight but should the series need a shake up before that happens, it'll get one.
  • edited August 2012 Posts: 2,115
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Still, that runs counter to the "I hope Daniel does eight" comments

    No it doesn't. Wilson hopes Craig will do eight but should the series need a shake up before that happens, it'll get one.

    It's a much different tone than his December comments:

    “Filming has gone very well so far and I’d love Daniel to surpass Roger’s record and do eight pictures."

    Up until then, NOBODY was talking about Craig doing eight movies. It is as if he said something based on emotion (i.e. liking his actor, being pleased with the first six weeks of shooting) without thinking about all the ramifications of what he said, i.e. for DC to do eight movies, he'd have to do another five and that would mean DC being Bond for another decade *if* an every-other-year schedule could be maintained over that time.

    Now, he turns around and talks, in a hypothetical case, you must be ready to change Bonds, even if the actor is at or near his peak of popularity. In the December comments, he comes across like a fan, in the more recent comments, a calculating businessman. That's part of his job, but it doesn't change how the tone of his remarks are much, much different.

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited August 2012 Posts: 13,355
    Of course you must be ready to change Bond actors, they already did, so Wilson isn't telling us anything new. The difference is this time, I'm sure EON will do everything in their power to not hit that brick wall, which they seemed to drive into last time, which forced the change over! ;) You're right about the fan vs businessman perspectives.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Look at the talk he was giving and the event it was for.

    If one is going to be talking about business and longevity everything Wilson said is true and makes perfect business sense. It's not ad though the man decided to call a press conference just to "stir things up" for the sake of it.

    Sometimes I really worry how fans jump on things and blow it out of proportion on such an epic scale. People need to relax and try not to get too hysterical. Come on people, Bond is celebrating 50 Years of an ongoing cinematic series. No one else has come even close so I think it's fair for Wilson to ce out and touch on a bit of strategy the producers employ to ensure Bond is keeps sailing through the years and isn't dead in the water.
  • It's all been blown way out of proportion. Considerably. Craig isn't going anywhere until after 2014, and maybe longer. Skyfall is highly unlikely to be his last turn as Bond.
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    Now, he turns around and talks, in a hypothetical case, you must be ready to change Bonds, even if the actor is at or near his peak of popularity. In the December comments, he comes across like a fan, in the more recent comments, a calculating businessman. That's part of his job, but it doesn't change how the tone of his remarks are much, much different.
    You clearly haven´t watched the full video of Wilson´s talk. There he ends his speech with enthusiasm regarding SF, hinting much more to a proud continuation with Craig than anything else.

    Earlier in his talk, he mentions the point of not being afraid to change the lead actor, in connection with the mention of Brosnan, but even there he doesn´t give a real reason to believe he would change an actor too early.
    If you look at what happened: DAD was a dead end, sure, but a complete change with Brosnan would have been absolutely possible, especially if you look what Brosnan did for example in Matador. After that they could have easily continued the new direction with a new actor, much like they did with DAF - LALD. So as a reason to change the lead actor that situation doesn´t lend itself so much.
    And besides, if they wanted to stay ahead of things, they would have changed the lead actor one or two films before.
    So, to me what Wilson says is all window dressing, adding a litle colour to the background while describing the development of the franchise.

  • Seriously, they cant be serious, you cant get rid of Daniel Craig this early you just cant this better be some sort of publicity stunt to make Skyfall earn more money, I mean why get rid of him now when everybody loves him including me and also when bond is jsut get back on track!
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    Seriously, they cant be serious, you cant get rid of Daniel Craig this early you just cant this better be some sort of publicity stunt to make Skyfall earn more money, I mean why get rid of him now when everybody loves him including me and also when bond is jsut get back on track!
    Maybe you need to watch the video and read the 13 pages of comments that accompany it. ;-)

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    NicNac wrote:
    Seriously, they cant be serious, you cant get rid of Daniel Craig this early you just cant this better be some sort of publicity stunt to make Skyfall earn more money, I mean why get rid of him now when everybody loves him including me and also when bond is jsut get back on track!
    Maybe you need to watch the video and read the 13 pages of comments that accompany it. ;-)
    Or just watch the vid and spare yourself the 13 page embarrassment ;-).

  • LicencedToKilt69007LicencedToKilt69007 Belgium, Wallonia
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    Honestly, it should. I appreciated his perf in CR, totally disliked him in QoS, but liked his Bond in Skyfall. Now, there's a "big door" way outing after his best film. He even said he always wanted to leave after CR's success. What's better to leave when it peaks ? Brosnan also wanted that. He had left after DAD. (the peak is here about the benefit, so mission accomplished) Connery got the bore during YOLT and people could feel that...

    Although it has a contract with 2 more films, I guess Craig will leave either in 2013 or after his 4th Bond film. Just wait and see.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Honestly, it should. I appreciated his perf in CR, totally disliked him in QoS, but liked his Bond in Skyfall. Now, there's a "big door" way outing after his best film. He even said he always wanted to leave after CR's success. What's better to leave when it peaks ? Brosnan also wanted that. He had left after DAD. (the peak is here about the benefit, so mission accomplished) Connery got the bore during YOLT and people could feel that...

    Although it has a contract with 2 more films, I guess Craig will leave either in 2013 or after his 4th Bond film. Just wait and see.

    That won't ever happen. Dan loves the role and will only stop after his contract for 2 more films end, carrying us clear to 2016 at the least. And that's only if he wants to do more.
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    My guess is that Daniel has 2 more Bond films in him, and that's probably it for him. I'm thinking that he will be at the stage where he will want to propel himself exclusively to different types of roles. But hey, what do I know? I have no crystal ball.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Ellis wrote:
    My guess is that Daniel has 2 more Bond films in him, and that's probably it for him. I'm thinking that he will be at the stage where he will want to propel himself exclusively to different types of roles. But hey, what do I know? I have no crystal ball.

    Mine busted a few years ago. :-<
  • LicencedToKilt69007LicencedToKilt69007 Belgium, Wallonia
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 : Maybe. If it keep going the same or close interpretation as in Skyfall, that'd be ok for me.
    But as what happened with Brosnan, which unclear situation wasted quite long time between DAD and CR. He thought he was too old, a poll invalidated his opinion in 2004. Then EoN was already looking for another actor... I'm sure you know the story but what I'm saying it's anything could happen (remember Dalton's ending tenure as well) and a 2 films contract cannot warranty everything.
    I wish Craig's tenure wil end without troubles. It contained those enough during the past 50 years...

    Solitaire had stolen our balls years ago, but she lost them all... ;p
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    SF's made over a billion dollars in about 9 weeks, the Craig era has mostly received critical praise and is casting top notch actors and treating the series with a class and seriousness we have not seen since tge 60s. Craig loves being in the role and his enthusiasm clearly shows. As long as the series stays on track with what CR and SF have contributed, the only question worth asking is, will Craig go beyond the 2 more movies he has left.
  • doubleoego wrote:
    will Craig go beyond the 2 more movies he has left.

    I think it depends. If they get Bond 24 and 25 out quickly, and if Craig doesn't look too old, maybe he'll do one more.

    But he's a clever guy and he won't carry on when he's too old for the sake of it. I can't see him doing a 6th film to be honest.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Yeah, Craig has integrity and wouldn't want to outstay his welcome but if the quality of the scripts and movie making process is of a favourable standard then I can see him doing at least a 6th but I'm just grateful he would have done 5 movies at least.
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    Won't be anytime soon! Now he has a billion dollar movie to his name! DC will certainly 5 now!
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    Daniel Craig peaked when he did that boat-ride along the Thames standing up for the press and TV news before the cameras had started to roll on Casino Royale. The producers should have realised then he looks about as much like Bond as comedian Alan Carr would. Following in the tradition of this squat little weight lifter with the Devils Island Prison haircut (Craig) lets have Joe Pasquale as Bond - to keep the 'Hell anyone can play Bond ' myth alive.
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    Jason19 wrote:
    Daniel Craig peaked when he did that boat-ride along the Thames standing up for the press and TV news before the cameras had started to roll on Casino Royale. The producers should have realised then he looks about as much like Bond as comedian Alan Carr would. Following in the tradition of this squat little weight lifter with the Devils Island Prison haircut (Craig) lets have Joe Pasquale as Bond - to keep the 'Hell anyone can play Bond ' myth alive.

    Oh dear! L-)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    RogueAgent wrote:
    Jason19 wrote:
    Daniel Craig peaked when he did that boat-ride along the Thames standing up for the press and TV news before the cameras had started to roll on Casino Royale. The producers should have realised then he looks about as much like Bond as comedian Alan Carr would. Following in the tradition of this squat little weight lifter with the Devils Island Prison haircut (Craig) lets have Joe Pasquale as Bond - to keep the 'Hell anyone can play Bond ' myth alive.

    Oh dear! L-)

    Jason Bourne made an account just to get in a shot at Dan's Bond? Har har, very funny, Jason.
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    Jason19 wrote:
    Daniel Craig peaked when he did that boat-ride along the Thames standing up for the press and TV news before the cameras had started to roll on Casino Royale. The producers should have realised then he looks about as much like Bond as comedian Alan Carr would. Following in the tradition of this squat little weight lifter with the Devils Island Prison haircut (Craig) lets have Joe Pasquale as Bond - to keep the 'Hell anyone can play Bond ' myth alive.

    Yeah, what planet do u live on?

    On planet Earth, Skyfall, Craig's 3rd Bond film is the BIGGEST film EVER in the UK, and has just crossed a Billion dollars world wide.

    That's a fact. No argument. No making excuses. It's there. No getting around it.

    But I suspect you still CAN'T or WON'T face the reality.

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    ColonelSun wrote:
    On planet Earth, Skyfall, Craig's 3rd Bond film is the BIGGEST film EVER in the UK, and has just crossed a Billion dollars world wide.

    That's a fact. No argument. No making excuses. It's there. No getting around it.

    If the producer stated that DC will leave at his peak does that mean that DC is leaving now?
    I have a hard time expecting the next 007 flic making another billion dollar box-office, am still somewhat surprised about this movie doing that. ;)

  • Posts: 90
    Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II and the Olympics Opening Ceremony had a lot to do with it. A billion dollars worth of free publicity.
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    Jason19 wrote:
    Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II and the Olympics Opening Ceremony had a lot to do with it. A billion dollars worth of free publicity.

    That was only good for a frontloaded opening, nothing that happened afterwards had a lot to do with it. Had the film been shit, we were nowhere where we are now - Olympics or not.
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