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Can we PLEASE stop using so many abbreviations?!

lordofthejimmylordofthejimmy
edited January 2013 in General Discussion Posts: 32
I get abbreviating a title if it's used a few times in a post, or not wanting to write "ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE" too many times, but it's tiring to read these abbreviated titles and have to figure out which film people are talking about (DN, TSWLM, TLD, etc) and I feel it takes away from the movie's title. Just write it!
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  • 00130013
    Posts: 1,817
    You'll notice that abbreviations are necessary when your constantly talking about 23 movies. Besides with little time you'll learn them, I think.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,170
    They're a common part of many forums regarding James Bond you'll find @lordofthejimmy.


    DN- Doctor No
    FRWL - From Russia With Love
    GF - Goldfinger
    TB - Thunderball
    YOLT - You Only Live Twice
    OHMSS - On Her Majestys Secret Service
    DAF - Diamonds Are Forever
    LALD - Live And Let Die
    TMWTGG - The Man With The Golden Gun
    TSWLM - The Spy Who Loved Me
    MR - Moonraker
    FYEO - For Your Eyes Only
    OP - Octopussy
    AVTAK - A View To A Kill
    TLD - The Living Daylights
    LTK - Licence To Kill
    GE - GoldenEye
    TND - Tomorrow Never Dies
    TWINE - The World Is Not Enough
    DAD - Die Another Day
    CR - Casino Royale

    Might take a while to get used to all of them, but most are self explanatory.
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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    I don't see the problem. It's not as if one is trying to solve a complex quadratic equation.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    If you really know the films, the abbreviations are not a problem.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    The abbreviations are nothing when you know all the films. Easy as pie.
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
    edited January 2013 Posts: 2,635
    It's just easy to know which film we are talking about, i don't see the problem! Just differ the letters, words and the titles! I also had that problem when i was a noob around here, now I know all of the films' abbreviations. You'll get costumed, and get the hang of it.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,255
    FYI you'll get the hang of it quickly. lol!
  • Quantum07Quantum07
    edited January 2013 Posts: 135
    OMG! idk y u have 2 b so OTT dramatic!! lol! jk!
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    Quantum07 wrote:
    OMG! idk y u have 2 b so OTT dramatic!! lol! jk!

    Hahaha! That was pretty great, @Quantum07! Nice way to sum it up, haha!
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited January 2013 Posts: 14,684
    @lordofthejimmy

    Also, PTS/PCS = Pre Title Sequence/Pre Credit Sequence
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    I usually go to the trouble of including the full title for any given Bond release, such as Diamonds are Forever or You Only Live Twice, for example, (see, it's not difficult) - as I think it looks better, and I like to take pride in my work

    I don't have a problem with anyone using abbreviations, the forum suggests to use it, if so wishes, but more often than not, it's no trouble for me to put in the full title, unless it's a specific element for each bond release, then I really feel like using shortened titles as no alternative, but other than that, just automatically use full Bond titles for any given release on their own, or with two or three in company. It's only when you have to list the entire 23, that it becomes a problem

    Have to say, I can't abide text speak on any given forums, be it James Bond, or anywhere you find it. Thankfully we get a minimum on that here, so I applaud authority figures for stamping that out. Half the time can't comprehend a damn thing that is being mentioned..

    Take pride in your work if you can, go to the extra trouble, to present it better, and show it to others - how you would like to read it, and you won't go far wrong
  • mdo007mdo007 Katy, Texas
    Posts: 259
    I don' see any problem with using abbreviations, it's a good shortcut for some of us that are lazy to type the full title.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    Never had that problem myself !

    I'm merely a fast and accurate typist in my defense

    Only with 'On Her Majestys Secret Service' do I consider - "should I do it"

    Other than that, once again, not really a problem
  • DrNoDrNo North Hollywood, California, USA
    Posts: 81
    I get it, but it does drive me nuts. Distracts me from the discussion when I have to sit there and think about it.
  • lordofthejimmylordofthejimmy
    Posts: 32
    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    Take pride in your work if you can, go to the extra trouble, to present it better, and show it to others - how you would like to read it, and you won't go far wrong
    Well said Baltimore!
  • lordofthejimmylordofthejimmy
    Posts: 32
    I've always loved the titles of these Bond novels and films. They feel like works of art unto themselves: FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE (that title alone just feels so aesthetic coming off of the tongue.) CASINO ROYALE, DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, LIVE AND LET DIE, FOR YOUR EYES ONLY, even THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH. These are such great titles (or phrases) Fleming created. And abbreviating them, to me at least, takes away their artistic value. It's like chopping up a classic piece of music, or showing a small part of a painting. That's really what I'm getting at.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited January 2013 Posts: 28,694
    lordofthejimmy wrote:
    I've always loved the titles of these Bond novels and films. They feel like works of art unto themselves: FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE (that title alone just feels so aesthetic coming off of the tongue.) CASINO ROYALE, DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER, LIVE AND LET DIE, FOR YOUR EYES ONLY, even THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH. These are such great titles (or phrases) Fleming created. And abbreviating them, to me at least, takes away their artistic value. It's like chopping up a classic piece of music, or showing a small part of a painting. That's really what I'm getting at.

    The films are more pieces of art than the titles themselves.
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    Posts: 2,722
    lordofthejimmy wrote:
    I get abbreviating a title if it's used a few times in a post, or not wanting to write "ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE" too many times, but it's tiring to read these abbreviated titles and have to figure out which film people are talking about (DN, TSWLM, TLD, etc) and I feel it takes away from the movie's title. Just write it!

    It's tiring to read them? It's tiring to write The Spy Who loved Me, The Man With The Golden Gun, You only live twice, On her majesty's secret service every single time you post.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Wow, there are some people who take themselves very seriously. Perhaps from now on, responses should be in the form of a carefully stitched tapestry, to up the artistic integrity. I've been using Bond forums for over a decade, it's common parlance to abbreviate a film's title. As pointed out, most of us don't need to think about it, if you're familiar with the films it's blatant.
  • LicenceRevokedLicenceRevoked
    Posts: 204
    Yeah I don't really understand OP's problem to be honest, it's hardly rocket science. If you want the full title every time you mention it, you go right on ahead but abbreviations just save time and I would think it's fairly obvious which each one refers to - I mean it's not like I'm going to read 'AVTAK' and think that's Goldeneye.

    Also what's this about artistic integrity and the titles? Yes they're nice titles but using abbreviations doesn't detract from that one iota - it's not like a Bond movie title is a Buddhist meditation 'Oummmmm' like every time you say it you reach enlightenment or something...

    (lotus position) The World Is Not Enough ommmmmm The World Is Not Enough ommmmmm The World Is Not Enough ommmmmm The World Is Not Enough ommmmmm... (windchimes)
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited January 2013 Posts: 14,684
    LicenceRevoked wrote:
    Yeah I don't really understand OP's problem to be honest, it's hardly rocket science.
    Wait- does OP stand for Octopussy- or Original Poster? ARRGGGHHHH! Darn abbreviations! ;)
  • LicenceRevokedLicenceRevoked
    Posts: 204
    Hahaha - my bad :D OP = Original Poster
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Just learn them its not the Gettysburg Address (to quote Basil Fawlty) we're asking you to memorise.

    And theres now way I'm typing out OHMSS and TMWTGG in full just for your convenience I'm afraid. If you cant decipher the titles then youre not much of a fan. I think my mother could do it and shes hardly a Bond fan.

    Close this mods as where else can we go here? The rest of us arent going to write out the titles in full so he'll just have to lump it.
  • Villiers53Villiers53
    Posts: 802
    Benny wrote:
    They're a common part of many forums regarding James Bond you'll find @lordofthejimmy.


    DN- Doctor No
    FRWL - From Russia With Love
    GF - Goldfinger
    TB - Thunderball
    YOLT - You Only Live Twice
    OHMSS - On Her Majestys Secret Service
    DAF - Diamonds Are Forever
    LALD - Live And Let Die
    TMWTGG - The Man With The Golden Gun
    TSWLM - The Spy Who Loved Me
    MR - Moonraker
    FYEO - For Your Eyes Only
    OP - Octopussy
    AVTAK - A View To A Kill
    TLD - The Living Daylights
    LTK - Licence To Kill
    GE - GoldenEye
    TND - Tomorrow Never Dies
    TWINE - The World Is Not Enough
    DAD - Die Another Day
    CR - Casino Royale

    Might take a while to get used to all of them, but most are self explanatory.
    This section may be of use to you...
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/11/help-im-new

    Any other issues, please don't hesitate to contact one of the mods for assistance.
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/3282

    Benny has provided a very good lexicon for cinema Bond.
    From a literary perspective, the following should complete your education:
    CS = Colnel Sun
    JG = John Gardner continuation novels (first five are worthwhile).
    YB = The great "Young Bond" novels.
    MD = The fabulous Moneypenny diaries.
    DMC = Crap
    CB = Complete Crap.
    RB = Raymond Benson Bond disintegration novels. All complete, unmitigated, unforgivable,
    Crap.
    This, together with Benny's explanation should allow you to enjoy this great forum without further translation difficulties.
    As for the great "TheWizardOflc" - don't mind him, he is actually a very nice guy. He just doesn't suffer Bond fools gladly!


  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Villiers53 wrote:
    [From a literary perspective, the following should complete your education:
    CS = Colnel Sun
    JG = John Gardner continuation novels (first five are worthwhile).
    YB = The great "Young Bond" novels.
    MD = The fabulous Moneypenny diaries.
    DMC = Crap
    CB = Complete Crap.
    RB = Raymond Benson Bond disintegration novels. All complete, unmitigated, unforgivable,
    Crap.


    Very good. You nearly had me there. Although I think you're being overly generous with DMC. I dont think Bensons efforts were as bad as that.
  • Villiers53Villiers53
    Posts: 802
    Great "TheWizardOflce" you are correct - they are worse!
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Villiers53 wrote:
    Great "TheWizardOflce" you are correct

    I generally am, I find.
  • Villiers53Villiers53
    Posts: 802
    There isn't and never can be a greater Bond aficionado than "TheWizardOflce" and certainly, when it comes to the movies, I can only kowtow to his every utterance.
    That said, and this is probably a sacrilege, I do detect a rare lack of taste when it comes to friend Benson. Is it possible that there is an inappropriate influence or was he simply imbibing the good stuff whilst reading?
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    You can type in the abbreviations if Bond movies in the search bar over at imdb.com (internetmoviesdatabase.com) and the corresponding Bond film will show up. Seems like the op really needs to get with the program.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited January 2013 Posts: 9,117
    Villiers53 wrote:
    There isn't and never can be a greater Bond aficionado than "TheWizardOflce" and certainly, when it comes to the movies, I can only kowtow to his every utterance.

    You're learning Mr Villiers53. Perhaps theres hope for you after all. Although not just the movies. I can set you straight on the books as well. I'm not a big head though. I won't claim supremacy on games (although I dont really count them as part of the canon).

    Villiers53 wrote:
    That said, and this is probably a sacrilege, I do detect a rare lack of taste when it comes to friend Benson. Is it possible that there is an inappropriate influence or was he simply imbibing the good stuff whilst reading?

    Perhaps I didnt make myself clear here. I didnt mean Bensons books werent that bad, just that they werent as bad as DMC.

    Bensons were pretty grim reading (although High Time to Kill was an interesting concept) but he was a fan who had been given the job of his life and did his best despite his limitations as a writer.

    Faulkes was supposedly a great (well decent - need to see if people are still reading you in 50 years Seb to have a chance of being labelled great. Although theres a bloke called Ian Fleming whose books are still selling who you think you are better than. Lets see shall we?) writer who treated the whole project as beneath him. Thought he was some genius artist who could piss better than Fleming before breakfast. Well if you had written anything approaching half decent I could have said fair enough but DMC would be an insult even for fan fiction. Cant believe the money he got for squeezing out this turd.

    I was only saying that in relation to Faulkes, Benson isnt too bad. Sort of like saying I'd sooner watch DAD than CR67. 'Rock' and 'hard place' springs to mind but at least Benson had genuine enthusiasm rather than someone just checking their word count every day until they hit their contractual requirement.
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