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  • Bond with feelings, more Q (not bad when he is "sexy geek", btw), more cyberstuff, dimmed lights, drama (not teenage drama, but Drama if you know what I mean).

    And for myself: more suits. Really. More good tailored suits. It's sort of visual orgasm.
  • edited February 2013 Posts: 1,661
    "why not the return of some John Barry style music?"

    How about:

    The return of The Dr No James Bond theme. That theme and the orchestration is genius.

    I think the attack on Piz Gloria was made extra amazing because Peter Hunt used that music. I think it could be amazing to hear it again in Bond 24 when Bond is fighting the bad guys - perhaps in the final action scene.
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    It having been several months since I last made requests, I'll try to reflect on where Bond films should go post-Skyfall.

    General
    1. Bond in naval/military uniform or fatigues.
    2. A villain's lair in the finale. It could be an auctioned bunker, mountain lodge - Silva's island should have been used far more.
    3. Gunbarrel at the start
    4. More use of the "James Bond Theme" or, although unlikely, a rebooted version of "007" (35 years after it's last use)
    5. A 2014 release date.

    Plot/Locations
    1. A more joined up, realistic approach between intelligence organisations. I'm talking SIS, GCHQ, CIA, Foreign Office, State dept. etc. This could involve Felix, but only if it has to.
    2. "Exotic" locations - the Indian Ocean islands would be brilliant. At a brief skim over Wikipedia, Zanzibar seems fascinating. You could also bring in the pirate/terrorist actions in East Afica into the plot. Haiti/South America would have been good in QOS, but it was handled badly.
    3. The old oak panelled office at MI6.

    Characters
    1. A Bond girl that lasts! Naomie Harris doesn't count.
    2. Keep Q
    3. A villain with charisma.
    4. An (preferably east) Asian ally that could be a returning character. A la Felix, but for the Indian/Pacific theatre.

    Technical/Production
    1. Bring back Deakins
    2. Bring back Arnold.
    3. Keep Tom Ford suits. The dinner jackets were fantastic in SF.
    4. I think Gassner (Production Design) needs to go. Bond 24 sets will need the imagination that hasn't been around in QOS or SF.
    5. We know John Logan is already doing B24, but I hope he manages to create some fantastic dialogue again.
  • edited February 2013 Posts: 1,661
    How about...

    Craig with slightly longer hair. Something like this sort of hairstyle:



    I wouldn't mind it darker too but I can't imagine Eon would do that seeing as Craig is established as the blonder James Bond.
  • jka12002jka12002 Banned
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    fanbond123 wrote:
    "why not the return of some John Barry style music?"

    How about:

    The return of The Dr No James Bond theme. That theme and the orchestration is genius.

    I think the attack on Piz Gloria was made extra amazing because Peter Hunt used that music. I think it could be amazing to hear it again in Bond 24 when Bond is fighting the bad guys - perhaps in the final action scene.

    They've been using the James Bond theme for quite some time now. Besides id rather hear the 007 theme from FRWL in a new film to be honest. The famous Bond theme is kinda getting stale
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    The Dr No version is the best, though!!!!!!

    If it was in the perfect spot in Bond 24 - the right moment in the action scene - it could be awesome.
  • jka12002jka12002 Banned
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  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Better love scenes
    The vicious hand to hand combat
    A physically imposing henchman
    Bullitt-style car chase
    Excluding London, no more than 3 geographical locations
    Quantum to return
    A femme fatale (who Bond shags)
  • Posts: 140
    Most items on my wishlist are similar to items that have already been mentioned, but here's my wishlist anyway:

    Bond in his flat (haven't seen this since LALD, have we?).

    Bond in his Naval Uniform.

    Resume the Quantum story arc.

    Restrained gadgetry: high-tech, not "exploding pen" (if that makes sense).

    Restrained humor. I'd rather see a serious episode like LTK than a Brosnan-style outing filled with lame, unfunny gags.

    A platoon of Royal Marines or SAS showing up to assist Bond in a firefight against a few dozen baddies.

    I don't mind seeing the gunbarrel at the end, but I won't complain if it's moved back to the beginning. Just as long as it's there somewhere.

    An unambiguously happy ending.


    Regarding whether or not to bring back Blofeld:
    It's important to keep in mind that the General Public is actually more familiar with Dr. Evil than with Ernst Stavro Blofeld, and has been for many years now. Thus, if ESB is to return, nostalgic memories of Donald Pleasence must be laid aside, and the character must be totally reinvented. Give him a full head of hair, ditch the cat, and make him more of a tough guy. Perhaps portray him closer to how Fleming wrote the character. If all that is done, I see no reason why Blofeld couldn't return.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    doubleoego wrote:
    Better love scenes
    The vicious hand to hand combat
    A physically imposing henchman
    Bullitt-style car chase
    Excluding London, no more than 3 geographical locations
    Quantum to return
    A femme fatale (who Bond shags)

    Quite a list you got here. I really like all of these ideas.
  • AliAli
    edited February 2013 Posts: 319
    Sort out the Quantum plot and more Aston porn please, ideally in the new Vanquish.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    doubleoego wrote:
    Better love scenes
    The vicious hand to hand combat
    A physically imposing henchman
    Bullitt-style car chase
    Excluding London, no more than 3 geographical locations
    Quantum to return
    A femme fatale (who Bond shags)

    Quite a list you got here. I really like all of these ideas.

    Thanks. I don't think what I would like to see is asking for too much. I really hope we get them.

  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    doubleoego wrote:
    Better love scenes
    The vicious hand to hand combat
    A physically imposing henchman
    Bullitt-style car chase
    Excluding London, no more than 3 geographical locations
    Quantum to return
    A femme fatale (who Bond shags)

    We got these in Skyfall.
  • The hand to hand combat was nowhere near as vicious as CR or even QOS. The fight scenes were good but weren't as brutal as past Craig fight scenes.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, where were they at? The only vicious one I saw was the one between Bond and Patrice in Shanghai, and like @thelivingroyale said, it was nowhere near as vicious as CR or QoS.
  • doubleoego wrote:
    Bullitt-style car chase

    Yes please. Preferrably with something other than an Aston too, I'd like a brand new Bond car. The newer Astons all look very similar so I think another brand would help keep things fresh.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited February 2013 Posts: 28,694
    The hand to hand combat was nowhere near as vicious as CR or even QOS. The fight scenes were good but weren't as brutal as past Craig fight scenes.
    Creasy47 wrote:
    @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7, where were they at? The only vicious one I saw was the one between Bond and Patrice in Shanghai, and like @thelivingroyale said, it was nowhere near as vicious as CR or QoS.

    Granted, the film didn't allow much time for fisticuffs, but the fight with Patrice in Turkey and then in Shanghai and Bond's scrap in the casino (using a briefcase) were cool little moments. I like that the fight in Shanghai was all shadows and light, were Bond was basically scrapping surrounded by misleading glass passages and lights patterns. When he almost falls out of the window while holding on to Patrice's gun and tries to block Patrice's hits against him with the gun as shots go off in yellow flashes a great cinematic scene is created. I love the train fight too, considering that was actually Dan up there and the fight got intense when both had to lay down fast as the bridge came near. It all leads to the tense point where Naomi has to take a shot while Bond holds a spastic Patrice. The Macao scene is a great scene too. Short, yes, but cool. I love seeing Bond fake a smile and send the case up and into the enemies, knocking one over. The fight after in the pit is cool too, with a funny moment where Bond wants to get the hell away from the komodo dragon while the big villain couldn't be bothered. There is also the scene where Bond fights underwater with Silva's henchman at the end, a small little scene but plenty exciting.

    They may not be as brutal as the past, but Bond also isn't the same agent he was, more competent now than ever. He is much more composed in his fighting, making every hit count to take out the enemy the fastest. Longer fights would have been nice, but what we got was good.

    As for the femme fatale question, she's called Severine (!). She is a complete femme. She is a dark and mysterious woman who entices the hero and leads him into trouble. She was a short part of the film unfortunately, but Berenice played her part well and surely got me all hot and bothered.
  • RC7RC7
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    Granted, the film didn't allow much time for fisticuffs, but the fight with Patrice in Turkey and then in Shanghai and Bond's scrap in the casino (using a briefcase) were cool little moments. I like that the fight in Shanghai was all shadows and light, were Bond was basically scrapping surrounded by misleading glass passages and lights patterns. When he almost falls out of the window while holding on to Patrice's gun and tries to block Patrice's hits against him with the gun as shots go off in yellow flashes a great cinematic scene is created. I love the train fight too, considering that was actually Dan up there and the fight got intense when both had to lay down fast as the bridge came near. It all leads to the tense point where Naomi has to take a shot while Bond holds a spastic Patrice. The Macao scene is a great scene too. Short, yes, but cool. I love seeing Bond fake a smile and send the case up and into the enemies, knocking one over. The fight after in the pit is cool too, with a funny moment where Bond wants to get the hell away from the komodo dragon while the big villain couldn't be bothered. There is also the scene where Bond fights underwater with Silva's henchman at the end, a small little scene but plenty exciting.

    None have the visceral energy of his scrap with Obanna in CR.

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    Well I want to see
    M Ralph Fiennes
    Moneypenny Naomi Harries
    Q Ben Whishaw
    Jeffrey Wrights Felix Lieter (optional)
    Rory Kinner Bill Tanner(optional)
    Gunbarrel in the beginning
    Gadgets: protection for himself with a company car with gadget Must be British brand Iconic only beside Aston Martin. His gun Walther PPK,P99 or any of the new models. But Just be happy it he carrying his trademark weapon.
    Bond girls: 2 or 3 girls & the kissing in end to come back like before with actual Bond girl.
    Villains that will have sorted out who. Couple henchman.
    Location: anywhere.
  • AliAli
    edited February 2013 Posts: 319
    doubleoego wrote:
    Bullitt-style car chase

    Yes please. Preferrably with something other than an Aston too, I'd like a brand new Bond car. The newer Astons all look very similar so I think another brand would help keep things fresh.

    No, has to be the Aston. But I'd like to see Bond doing the chasing this time and the villain having an equally good car. Maybe an LFA, F12, ZR1 or GranTurismo? The last decent car chase where Bond went after the bad guys was probably LTK, and that was in tankers! GE's chase was for fun and rather lame. TND was two escape style chases, the BMW one being remote controlled, TWINE didn't have anything IIRC, and DAD only had the lame ice lake battle which I don't count. I'd love to see something like QoS's PTS but longer and with Bond chasing someone in anger. They had the perfect chance to do this in CR and copped out completely. That lack of chase is one of the most disappointing moments in the Craig era.

  • DrunkIrishPoetDrunkIrishPoet The Amber Coast
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    1. Craig in flashback as a younger Bond, still in the Navy, doing some SAS stuff. We see him in uniform. This might be a good place to work in the gun barrel bit (and please: a proper pin-hole camera shot, not the CGI rubbish they do nowadays!) We meet the younger M (Dench, youthified like Magneto and X) and she recruits him into MI6.
    2. Bond's flat. We meet his new housekeeper, May. In this reality, I guess she could be Kinkaid's little sister.
    3. Mr. Kinkaid gets killed - goodbye to the aging guest star! And now, of course, it's personal, &c.
    4. And something just a wee bit more explicit in the sex scenes - nothing rated "R" or whatever, but... you know... something!
  • edited February 2013 Posts: 12,837
    Ali wrote:
    doubleoego wrote:
    Bullitt-style car chase

    Yes please. Preferrably with something other than an Aston too, I'd like a brand new Bond car. The newer Astons all look very similar so I think another brand would help keep things fresh.

    No, has to be the Aston.

    Eh, disagree. I'd prefer the new F type or even the new Lotus Esprit.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Yeah, I'm all for Bond driving an Aston forever, though I like the old models over the new. You really just can't beat the DB5 for classic appeal and timeless style. And it is Bond's trademark, the car above all others (like the PPK for weaponry) that is immediately associated with him. I mean, would Batman scrap his batmobile for a Prius? No, he wouldn't.
  • the batmobile argument is very pointless, it continues to change over time with every movie
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited February 2013 Posts: 28,694
    ohmss42 wrote:
    the batmobile argument is very pointless, it continues to change over time with every movie

    Astons change their looks too, and it was just a gag, no worries.
  • First of all, the gunbarrel sequence AT THE BEGINNING!
    Bond: Sam Worthington
    Bond girl: Emily Blunt
    Villain: Willem Dafoe
    M: Ralph Fiennes
    Q: Ben Wishaw

    The movie should be called "The Shadow Of Revenge"
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited February 2013 Posts: 13,355
    Some of the comments are off. If American directors were not counted the list would be considerably shorter.

    I look forward to the responce video.
  • Samuel001 wrote:
    Some of the comments are off. If American directors were not counted the list would be considerably shorter.

    I look forward to the responce video.

    I understand the prod's feelings about yanks directing Bond, I can see how someone like Speilberg could loose the Englishness that is essential to Bond.

    But, someone like Fincher would nail it. He understands European sentimentalies (just look at TGWTDT) and can tell cracking and thrilling stories as well as being a dang smart to boot. His villain would also be cracking.
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    EON productions present Daniel Craig as Ian Fleming's James Bond 007 in David Fincher's The Hildebrand Rarity

    Yeah I like that I like that a lot honestly!
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