Classifying and Grouping the Bond Movies

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  • St_GeorgeSt_George Shuttling Drax's lovelies to the space doughnut - happy 40th, MR!
    edited December 2011 Posts: 1,699
    <i>British</i>
    TB (Location)
    OHMSS (Plot + characters)
    Spy (Plot)
    TWINE (Plot + Scotland)
    SF (Scotland)

    <i>American</i>
    DN (Jamaica + plot)
    GF (Miami/ Kentucky + plot)
    DAF (Vegas + characters)
    LALD (New York/ San Monique + characters + plot)
    AVTAK (San Francisco + plot)
    LTK (All of it) ;)

    <i>European</i>
    GF (Switzerland)
    OHMSS (Swiss Alps/ Portugal)
    FYEO (Greece/ Italian Alps)
    TLD (Czechoslovakia/ Austria)
    CR (Montenegro/ Lake Como/ Venice)

    <i>Exotic</i>
    FRWL (Istanbul)
    YOLT (Japan + plot)
    TMWTGG (Hong Kong/ Thailand)
    MR (Brazil)
    OP (India)
    TND (Saigon + plot)
    TWINE (Istanbul)
    SF (Istanbul/ Shanghai)

    <i>Space</i>
    YOLT (Plot)
    DAF (Plot)
    MR (Plot + location)
    DAD (Plot)
  • What about a 'Bond gets water on him' classification, this is perhaps mundane and absurd but I don't really care [-(

    Bond gets saturated -

    Thunderball
    Diamonds are Forever
    For Your Eyes Only
    A View To A kill
    License To Kill
    The World Is Not Enough
    Die Another Day
    Casino Royale

    Bond gets drenched but not necessarily enough to warrant a saturation-

    Dr No
    You Only Live Twice
    on Her Majestys Secret Service
    Live and Let Die
    Moonraker
    Octopussy
    Tomorrow Never Dies

    bond gets a bit wet but nothing too serious

    The man with the Golden Gun
    The Spy who loved me
    Goldeneye

    Bond gets a few splashes on him but nothing to complain about, or I can't remember or don't really care

    From Russia with Love
    Goldfinger
    The Living Daylights
    Quantum of Solace
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    @St_George: Nice orderings by location! I'll have to try the American one sometime!
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited December 2011 Posts: 14,680
    What about a 'Bond gets water on him' classification, this is perhaps mundane and absurd but I don't really care [-(

    Lol, nice list :D

    I'd like to add the 'Bond gets wet, but his Martini is still dry' classification:

    Never Say Never Again ;)
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited December 2011 Posts: 4,423
    Cool…

    Fleming

    Doctor No
    From Russia With Love
    Thunderball
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    Live And Let Die
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy
    The Living Daylights
    Licence To Kill
    Casino Royale
    Quantum of Solace

    Fantasy

    Goldfinger
    You Only Live Twice
    Diamonds Are Forever
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Moonraker
    A View to a Kill
    GoldenEye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World Is Not Enough
    Die Another Day

    I wonder which, my fellow MI6'ers, you would choose? Fleming or Fantasy?
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    @royale65: Good list! I'd have to pick Fleming's list on that note, since a good number of my favorites are from that classification. I do like some of the fantasy, like DAF, TSWLM, AVTAK, GE, and TND.
  • edited December 2011 Posts: 1,817
    @royale 65 Great list!
    But with your permission I would like to recode your nominal classification into a continuous scale of the degree of fantasy, which is of course correctable according to your kind suggestions:
    Degree of fantasy
    +Moonraker, You Only Live Twice, Die Another Day
    | The Man with the Golden Gun
    | Live and Let Die
    | Goldfinger
    | Diamonds Are Forever
    | The Spy Who Loved Me, Octopussy
    | Dr No
    | A View to a Kill, Tomorrow Never Dies, The World is Not Enough
    | Thunderball, GoldenEye
    | For Your Eyes Only, Quantum of Solace, Skyfall(?)
    | From Russia With Love, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, The Living Daylights
    - Casino Royale, Licence to Kill

    However, it would be perhaps more appropriate - in methodology terms - to rank them according to pre-define variables like: number of gadgets, larger-than-life villain, plot plausibility, space-elements... etc. Then build and index and we can make the classification of fantasy.
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    @0013: Good rankings on that note! The only thing I don't understand is LALD. Why is it so high up on the fantasy? It was pretty low-key and normal to me, I mean, what with the drug plot and all. There were no big lasers and over-the-top action sequences really.
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    The Henchmen's Revenge Bond Movies:
    -Diamonds Are Forever
    -Live and Let Die
    -The Man with the Golden Gun
    -The Spy Who Loved Me
    -A View to a Kill
    -Tomorrow Never Dies

    Villain's Hospitality:
    -Dr. No
    -Goldfinger
    -Thunderball
    -The Man with the Golden Gun
    -Octopussy
    -A View to a Kill
    -License to Kill
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited March 2012 Posts: 6,380
    timmer wrote:
    The Quadruple Conquest, Keeping the British End Up, 5 pak
    Brought to you by Sean (of course). Honorable mention:Rog

    FRWL........... (double gypsy girls, Trench and Romanova)
    GF ...............( Bonita and Dink implied, Jill and Poo-sey)
    TB.................(pre-credit femme-agent implied, Fearing, Volpe and Domino)
    YOLT
    AVTAK

    The Limp Bond collection

    CR
    QoS

    I count four with Lazenby as well (Tracy, three women at Piz Gloria).

    The romantic Bonds:

    OHMSS
    TLD
    CR
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    00Beast wrote:
    The Henchmen's Revenge Bond Movies:
    -Diamonds Are Forever
    -Live and Let Die
    -The Man with the Golden Gun
    -The Spy Who Loved Me
    -A View to a Kill
    -Tomorrow Never Dies

    Villain's Hospitality:
    -Dr. No
    -Goldfinger
    -Thunderball
    -The Man with the Golden Gun
    -Octopussy
    -A View to a Kill
    -License to Kill
    Don't forget FRWL.
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    00Beast wrote:
    The Henchmen's Revenge Bond Movies:
    -Diamonds Are Forever
    -Live and Let Die
    -The Man with the Golden Gun
    -The Spy Who Loved Me
    -A View to a Kill
    -Tomorrow Never Dies

    Villain's Hospitality:
    -Dr. No
    -Goldfinger
    -Thunderball
    -The Man with the Golden Gun
    -Octopussy
    -A View to a Kill
    -License to Kill
    Don't forget FRWL.

    Are you meaning for FRWL to be under Henchman's Revenge or Villain's Hospitality?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    00Beast wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    The Henchmen's Revenge Bond Movies:
    -Diamonds Are Forever
    -Live and Let Die
    -The Man with the Golden Gun
    -The Spy Who Loved Me
    -A View to a Kill
    -Tomorrow Never Dies

    Villain's Hospitality:
    -Dr. No
    -Goldfinger
    -Thunderball
    -The Man with the Golden Gun
    -Octopussy
    -A View to a Kill
    -License to Kill
    Don't forget FRWL.

    Are you meaning for FRWL to be under Henchman's Revenge or Villain's Hospitality?

    Villain's Hospitality. Sorry, I thought I bolded it.
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    00Beast wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    The Henchmen's Revenge Bond Movies:
    -Diamonds Are Forever
    -Live and Let Die
    -The Man with the Golden Gun
    -The Spy Who Loved Me
    -A View to a Kill
    -Tomorrow Never Dies

    Villain's Hospitality:
    -Dr. No
    -Goldfinger
    -Thunderball
    -The Man with the Golden Gun
    -Octopussy
    -A View to a Kill
    -License to Kill
    Don't forget FRWL.

    Are you meaning for FRWL to be under Henchman's Revenge or Villain's Hospitality?

    Villain's Hospitality. Sorry, I thought I bolded it.

    It's all right Brady! No harm done, good sir!
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    Main Villain Dies Before their Henchmen

    Diamonds Are Forever (although Blofeld does not actually die here, but he is defeated)
    Live and Let Die
    The Man with the Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    A View to a Kill
    GoldenEye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World is not Enough

    Main Villain Gets a Bullet

    From Russia with Love
    The Man with the Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    The World is not Enough
    Casino Royale
    Quantum of Solace (off-screen, but stated by M later on)

    Villain's Base of Operations is totally destroyed

    Dr. No
    You Only Live Twice
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Diamonds Are Forever
    The Man with the Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Moonraker
    A View to a Kill
    License to Kill
    GoldenEye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Those are some cleverly thought out groupings, @00Beast.
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    Those are some cleverly thought out groupings, @00Beast.

    Why thank you, Brady!


    Here are some more!

    Bond Eliminates Someone with the PPK (believe it or not, it's not in every movie)

    Dr. No
    From Russia with Love
    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    You Only Live Twice
    The Man with the Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    For Your Eyes Only
    License to Kill
    GoldenEye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Quantum of Solace
    SkyFall

    Main Bond Girl is a Blonde

    Dr. No
    From Russia with Love
    Goldfinger
    The Man with the Golden Gun
    A View to a Kill
    The Living Daylights

    Male Ally is Killed on the job

    Dr. No (Quarrel-incinerated)
    From Russia with Love (Kerim Bey- knife to the back)
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Campbell- hung upside down over a mountain)
    Octopussy (Vijay- sliced up with the yo-yo buzzsaw)
    A View to a Kill (Tibbett and Chuck Lee- both strangled)
    The Living Daylights (Saunders- sliced by rigged doors)
    License to Kill (Sharkey- unknown cause)
    The World is not Enough (Valentine Zukovsky- shot)
    Quantum of Solace (Rene Mathis- shot)
  • 00Beast wrote:
    Male Ally is Killed on the job

    Dr. No (Quarrel-incinerated)
    From Russia with Love (Kerim Bey- knife to the back)
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Campbell- hung upside down over a mountain)
    Octopussy (Vijay- sliced up with the yo-yo buzzsaw)
    A View to a Kill (Tibbett and Chuck Lee- both strangled)
    The Living Daylights (Saunders- sliced by rigged doors)
    License to Kill (Sharkey- unknown cause)
    The World is not Enough (Valentine Zukovsky- shot)
    Quantum of Solace (Rene Mathis- shot)

    Nice list there. You can add add Luigi Ferrara (FYEO) to that

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    00Beast wrote:
    Male Ally is Killed on the job

    Dr. No (Quarrel-incinerated)
    From Russia with Love (Kerim Bey- knife to the back)
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Campbell- hung upside down over a mountain)
    Octopussy (Vijay- sliced up with the yo-yo buzzsaw)
    A View to a Kill (Tibbett and Chuck Lee- both strangled)
    The Living Daylights (Saunders- sliced by rigged doors)
    License to Kill (Sharkey- unknown cause)
    The World is not Enough (Valentine Zukovsky- shot)
    Quantum of Solace (Rene Mathis- shot)

    Nice list there. You can add add Luigi Ferrara (FYEO) to that

    Totally forgot about Luigi in FYEO! Thanks for the reminder!
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    00Beast wrote:
    @0013: Good rankings on that note! The only thing I don't understand is LALD. Why is it so high up on the fantasy? It was pretty low-key and normal to me, I mean, what with the drug plot and all. There were no big lasers and over-the-top action sequences really.

    Perhaps I was thinking in terms of supernatural, voodoo and Samedi, but I think you're right and it deserves a lower fantasy degree.
    By the way, Skyfall was temporary placed there because it wasn't released yet. Now I think it deserves this spot:

    Degree of fantasy (revisited)
    +Moonraker, Die Another Day
    | You Only Live Twice
    | The Man with the Golden Gun
    | The Spy Who Loved Me, Diamonds Are Forever
    | Live and Let Die
    | Goldfinger
    | Dr No, Octopussy
    | A View to a Kill, Tomorrow Never Dies, The World is Not Enough
    | Thunderball, GoldenEye
    | For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights
    | From Russia With Love, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, Skyfall
    - Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, Licence to Kill
  • Bond wears a cravat:

    GoldenEye

    I can't think of any others off the top of my head; can anyone think of others?
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    By type of villain

    I. Organisation

    SPECTRE
    DN
    FRWL
    TB
    YOLT
    OHMSS
    DAF
    Quantum
    CR
    QOS

    II. Coalition of villains
    OP
    TLD
    GE
    TWINE

    III. Solitary villain
    GF
    LALD
    TMWTGG
    TSWLM
    MR
    FYEO
    AVTAK
    LTK
    TND
    DAD
    SF
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    @0013: Great way of organizing by villain! I think I need to try those groupings sometime!
  • edited February 2013 Posts: 643
    Bond Girls

    Agents

    You Only Live Twice
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    Moonraker
    Licence to Kill
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day
    Quantum of Solace

    Damsels in Distress

    From Russia With Love
    Thunderball
    Live and Let Die
    A View To A Kill
    The Living Daylights
    GoldenEye

    Independent Women

    Dr No
    Goldfinger
    Diamonds are Forever
    For Your Eyes Only
    Octopussy
    The World Is Not Enough

    Strong Emotional Ties

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Casino Royale

    SkyFall Bond girl is difficult as there isn't one as such. Moneypenny would place easily in the Agent group where as Severine would place in the Damsel in Distress category (in my opinion)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Bond wears a cravat:

    GoldenEye

    I can't think of any others off the top of my head; can anyone think of others?

    I think he has one in OHMSS and I do believe Bond has one on in the climax of Skyfall (as he is preparing for a fight with Silva).
  • AliAli
    Posts: 319
    You're all forgetting the most important list:

    Aston Martins:

    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    The Living Daylights
    Goldeneye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day
    Casino Royale
    Quantum Of Solace
    Skyfall

    Lotus

    The Spy Who Loved Me
    For Your Eyes Only
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    Bond wears a cravat:

    GoldenEye

    I can't think of any others off the top of my head; can anyone think of others?

    I think he has one in OHMSS and I do believe Bond has one on in the climax of Skyfall (as he is preparing for a fight with Silva).

    In AVTAK, when he comes in the morning to Zorin's office to select the horse. I believe in SF it maybe is a scarf, though I could be wrong.
    00Beast wrote:
    @0013: Great way of organizing by villain! I think I need to try those groupings sometime!

    Thank you sport!
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    I cannot take credit for this classifying, I owe it all to that member Kerim:

    GOLDEN AGE
    DN-OHMSS

    FOOLS GOLD AGE
    DAF-MR

    SILVER AGE
    FYEO-LTK

    GOLDEN SHOWERS AGE
    GE-DAD

    I always LMFAO whenever i think of this Kerim, you're beautiful man! :)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    0013 wrote:
    Bond wears a cravat:

    GoldenEye

    I can't think of any others off the top of my head; can anyone think of others?

    I think he has one in OHMSS and I do believe Bond has one on in the climax of Skyfall (as he is preparing for a fight with Silva).

    In AVTAK, when he comes in the morning to Zorin's office to select the horse. I believe in SF it maybe is a scarf, though I could be wrong.
    00Beast wrote:
    @0013: Great way of organizing by villain! I think I need to try those groupings sometime!

    Thank you sport!
    Yes, he definitely has one in AVTAK, though it is a little hard to spot.
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