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Best to worst: Phantom, DAD, Indy 4.
How you can say that Indy 4 is better than the prequel SW episodes is beyond me. In the prequels if you get rid of Jar Jar and ignore scenes between Aniken and Padmey in E2, then they're amazing! It has such a big complex story that it tells, while the original three were simpletons by comparison. also the visual effects are so much better, as is the lightsaber fighting. SW E3 has better lightsaber fights than all the other films combined.
By comparison, Indy 4 was a total let-down! It was way too gimmicky, what with Area 51, a rocket sled and a Indy surviving a nuke test in a fridge all in the opening bit was appalling! Exciting but then you realize how stupid it all is. And then the alien plot and Shia Labeouf make it worse, and during the movie they never once play the theme loud and blaring during the action! Seriously watch it again if you can bare to, and you'll find a surpassing lack of the Indy theme throughout the entire film.
As for DAD, come on guys, it wasn't really that bad. The cgi wave was silly, as was the invisible car, and Moon's bionic suit, and Hally Berry didn't act very well, but don't tell me that you don't secretly love that sword fight, the car chase, Bond being tortured and escaping the hospital, the ice palace. It's a fun movie which is far more watchable than Indy 4.
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I quote Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series creator Martin "Littlekuriboh" Billany when I say this: "Y'know, people questioned the logic of that sequence, but then George Lucas rightfully pointed out 'If my film career can survive The Phantom Menace, then Indiana Jones can survive a nuclear explosion in a fridge'."
The logic is inescapable.
Your main gripe with Indy 4 is a lack of the theme tune? All I can say is you are lucky to have such low disappointment thresholds.
Not even going to dignify your comments that the prequels 'are amazing'.
It proves that DAD was bad when the only way it comes out top of any list is by throwing it in with shockers like Episode 1 and Indy 4.
I would say DAD best, Indy 4 second (although not much in it) and Episode 1 lagging a fair way behind.
I used to love Duel of the Fates, but then once Battle of the Heroes was introduced in Revenge of the Sith, I now prefer that one.
DAD is enjoyable for what it is.
If my memory serves (have only seen it once) doesn't some inexplicable force field come down for no apparent reason blocking off Obi Wan until Qui Gon is dead and then conveniently let's him out to kill Darth Maul?
Which is really shit by the way.
I think we're meant to assume that those force fields are there for protection from all the plasma conduits and whatnot.
Five laser walls protecting... an empty room with a giant hole.
By the way, what you people think about Darth Maul comeback in the animated series? For me it's nothing but an insult towards Obi Wan and Qui Gon by extension, as the former avenged his death.
I didn't mind it, since I liked Maul and wanted to have seen more of him, plus Sam Witwer's voice acting is awesome. I did find it a little farfetched, since he just showed up with mechanical spider limbs, but considering the arc that they brought him in with involved so much weird magic, I guess that made it a little acceptable, to an extent.
So I am not missing anything by skipping them? That's likely a rhetorical question, isn't it? Yes, I think I just answered my own question.
I'd go as far as saying they're significantly worse than DAD.
Oh, I guessed that. At least I like Bond to some extent in that that I can stand it for long enough. I only like the original Star Wars films because they had characters I cared about and Yoda is just awesome, of course. He is probably the only reason I would watch the prequels. I will also hate all the CGI. I would love to know why they opted to make the prequels the films with super technology while the originals that are meant to succeed them don't have any of that. You would think that Lucas would include less tech in the prequels to compare it more to the tech appearing in the original trilogy. Granted, they were limited in the 70s with technology like CGI, but it still irks me nonetheless.
And in the prequels Yoda is no longer a Jim Henson animatronic puppet but a totally fake looking CGI thing. I still personally find animatronics and a man dressed in a bear suit as Chewie more believable and likeable than all this CGI stuff. I don't know what it is about CGI but the more I see of it the less I like it. I can accept it in some contexts but I still feel it doesn't beat real sets, stunts, or even scale models. I found the hordes of orks of CGIin the Lord of the Rings battle scenes kind of dull, while Ray Harryhausen's skeleton army still looks amazing to me.
I am disappointed with EON for not banning CGI after DAD. CR wasn't too bad, but the plane sequence in QoS and parts of SF looked pretty ropey IMO. The establishing shot of the floating casino looked like something from a Disney cartoon. I don't understand why so many film makers seem happy to use CGI, apart from that it must be cheap, of course.
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That kind of thing will likely never be done again.
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I enjoyed Die Another Day.I am aware of its faults but it was still a fun Bond adventure.Saw it twice at the cinema when it was released in 2002.
Was really disappointed in Indy 4 but have since warmed to it slightly.Still the worst Indy film though.
Indiana Jones 4 delivered an adventure by its already seriously aging leading man that did not left me dissapointed. Spectacle galore and still very much wicked sense of Indiana Jones humour. The theme fitted the 50's craze in cinema of Scifi monstermovies. Nice too see Harrison Ford once again whipping out a fairly decent adventure.
Die Another Day was in hindsight supposed to be Brosnans swansong, he seems certainly most at ease in the role in his entire run. The Story did have some promise especially the conflict between the baddie & his father, which was not handled well. The spectacle was fun and well done, albeit for some truly poor CGI sequence. In the end the movie went a wee bit over the top but delivered a spectacular 007 outing that still wiped the floor with all its competitors. I guess I always expected a toned down movie not unlike FYEO to finish Brosnans era. And in my view it could easily have handled the post 9/11 era before giving the reign over to DC's CR.
I like this post.Good to see some people not jumping on the hate SW prequel/Indy 4/DAD bandwagon.
Phantom Menace: It's boring but worth it for the lightsaber duels.
Crystal Skull: I had very high hopes for this movie, I rewatched all three Indy films just days before seeing it. I was wanting it to be so awesome, I was massively let down. Massive disappointment. Mr. Plinkett said it best. "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is the biggest disappointment The Phantom Menace!"
3. Phantom Menace - somewhat underrated. Granted it's not one of the best Star Wars films, and the first half is pretty boring, but at least it had awesome battle scenes + Qui-Gon and Darth Maul (best prequel characters). Also good soundtrack.
2. Die Another Day - certainly one of my least favorite Bond movies, but still has a few good merits. The first half of the film is honestly decent, including a good PTS and a solid performance by Brosnan. Thought it went a bit off the rails in the second half though, particularly the last 30 minutes.
1. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - easily the worst Indiana Jones film. Very disappointing too, because it had some potential; Ford obviously not as good as he was in the first 3, several stupid moments (most of which include Mutt ~X(), became boring quickly, and just lacked the magic and fun of the first 3. Not as bad as some people say, but certainly not a whole lot better.
3. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - easily the worst Indiana Jones film. That said, it's full of energy & fun. Karen Allen makes the film watchable for me. Nice score.
2. Die Another Day - certainly one of my least favorite Bond movies, but still has a few good merits. The first half of the film is honestly decent, including a good PTS and a solid performance by Brosnan. Buy the sci-fi premise, buy the flick. I bought Graves Robo-suit for a dollar!
3. Phantom Menace - somewhat underrated. Granted it's not one of the best Star Wars films, and the first half is pretty boring, but at least it had awesome battle scenes + Qui-Gon and Darth Maul (best prequel characters). Also good soundtrack. The whole slave thing baffled me though. Why not go in and eff 'em up, you Jedis?
Oh, so Annikin could later. More brutally. After his Mom died.
I feel so manipulated...