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Moneypenny Becoming M
THEBond007
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As we all know Lois Maxwell was the first Moneypenny. On Wikipedia under her Later years and death section it said that she would love to see Moneypenny becoming M. DO you think it would be a good idea. Could Lois Maxwell have been a good M?
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It's acutally Money penny becoming M it would be a good idea. Then maybe Moneypenny can finally have Jame Bond hahah.
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I don't think so: Judi Dench having been M for years, it just shows some women can be M, with the right background.
I don't think Bond would ever want to become M. In the novels, he's always quite bored when he's in the office, he hates sitting around and doing nothing but reading reports. As M, all he would get to do, is sit behind a desk, have meetings with the folks from MI5, Scotland Yard, Ministers (all of whom, iirc, Bond doesn't really like), and occasionally send out other agents to do what he would be aching to do himself, constantly reminding him of his own mortality and age. No, I think when the time would come that Bond wouldn't be fit enough to go into the field, he'd just hang up the Walther and retire in Jamaica.
It would be the last job Bond would want to have.
Yeah, I know. Bond is a field man, till death or retirement.
It depends on which Moneypenny that we're talking about.
In the 60s, "secretaries" were seen as just secretaries. No matter how competent, how much of their bosses' duties they could help with, they were seen as being "the help". I can't see Maxwell's Moneypenny ever being promoted even in the 80s.
Now, Eve Moneypenny would have a better chance - still a slim chance, but a better one. Admin assistants these days can often perform almost every aspect of their bosses' jobs and indeed often do at certain times (although "behind the scenes"). Of course, I'm talking about high-level assistants - which would describe Eve (there was a new poster here at the time of SF's premiere who worked as an admin assistant herself and complained bitterly about what an unrespected, terrible job it was and how it diminished and insulted Eve to be doing it). In fact, I have even seen admin assistants promoted to managerial positions in the real world. It's still not common, but I've seen it happen a few times.
Now, Eve will have a tremendous amount of experience helping to run the 007 section and she has field experience herself. Would that be enough to become M after, say, 20 years? Possibly, but it's not probable. But more probable than it's been in the past.
Of course any woman with the right background / experience could be M and Dench's M was testament to that. Women are just as capable. But we are talking about Moneypenny. She is a secretary, a personal assistant, she doesn't have the creditials to be promoted to such a role. It would be like the house keeper of the White House being the next President of the US because they clean the White House whiter than white.
Sorry, if you mean Lois Maxwell the actress then I totally agree with you. If you mean Maxwell's Moneypenny character then I would disagree with you.
Oh absolutely, I agree with you. That is what I meant: we don't object to a woman being head of MI6. But a secretary being head of MI6 does not make any sense.
@THEBond007, in this and other threads you keep making suggestions that go nowhere. You talk about making lengthy references to Judy Dench in future Bonds, now you suggest a MP turning M. A secretary with a girlish crush on Bond suddenly in charge of MI6? Do come on.
What's next? Q as the next Blofeld?
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I have a theory about internet forums: however ridiculous an idea is, it will brought forward by someone as sensible. I remember when CR was released, I read somewhere a guy suggesting that Le Chiffre survived CR, in fact faking his death, gained a bigger scar around his eye somehow, shaved his head and became Blofeld. No kidding.
After 23 missions, we may think he already should deserve it? ;)
No No NO. That must be the stupidest thing ever. WHat will the movie be aabout Jame just sitting behind a desk and doing paper work will some other agent goes out no terrible. Granted if they say Bond is M and does do field work picks his own missions then maybe.
No, genius. They meant the old Bond becomes M for the new Bond's timeline.
So Brosnan would have been Craig's M, or Craig would become the next Bond actor's M.
I was wondering when it was going to show up. The stupid codename theory.
It doesn't have to be BOND as M, but just the actor. As sort of a nod and a wink.
But I suppose some simple minded people wouldn't get that actors are actors, not characters.
The penny drops, as they say. Let's not mess with James Bond - period. Which is why we shouldn't discuss
- MP becoming M
- Bond becoming M
- Bond being female, gay, black, ...
- Mallory being a double agent
- ...
We're 23 (or is it 25) films in and yet ultimately people still want things to be more or less as they've always been. There's a certain limit to the freedom we have in trying out new things.
The question one should really ask is: does any of these suggestions improve on the quality of the films? Since the only sensible answer would always be no, I suggest we leave the current state of affairs more or less intact.
My two cents.