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Concerning the teaser trailer, I don't think Nolan made it. I hate this kind of "every beginning has en End", and one can't sell a great film by just showing a guy lying on a bed saying that Batman is great (even if it's Commissioner Gordon). Then, they screwed up the introduction of Bane. He's less famous than Joker, and they should have played with the mystery of this character.
And why does Gordon says that the Batman is gone ? He's like Bond, as far as we know, he never left.
Then, I'm kind of disappointed, cause it looks like Bane broke the back of Gordon, and not the one of Batman as in the comics, and I really though it would be a great idea that Batman did get broken by Bane.
Anyway, I love the crumbling Buildings, and hope we'll have Inception's like effect !
December unless i mistake my guess will be a big a month for batman and bond.
As for Batman teaser, I guess they didn't have filmed enough scenes yet in order to make something good. Teasing is an art. Just see how a lot of the Bond one were really creating something teasing. This teaser hasn't a lot of creativity and held no surprise appart from Gordon lying in bed. But everyone knows that in films, the guy wearing a moustache always end up real bad ^^
Same with Mission Impossible Ghost protocol and the Girl with the Dragoon Tattoo
Nolan has raised the bar with blockbusters like no director since Spielberg you don't like him fine but his acclaim and box office show he far from sucks!
I'd like you to show me another director working his arena who is better!
Who do you suppose that is? and What's he doing?
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@0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 : just because the first 2 Batman movies made a lot of money, it doesn't necessarily means they are good and
NO, I am not the only one who didn't like the first 2 movies
Use GOOGLE and you will find 10 of 1000s of people who didn't care for the first 2 films too and they will tell you exactly why
I can tell you why but we will be here for the next 2 years posting back and forth about it because the list is very very very very long!!
Secondly, Nolan has repeatedly said that THE DARK KNIGHT RISES comes "full circle" in the trilogy. Hence, the images and voiceover from BATMAN BEGINS are cut into it. The intention is clearly to look at the legend of Batman, especially in a situation where he no longer represents the ideals he started out with, as evidenced by the finale of THE DARK KNIGHT. We have no idea. And we're not really supposed to. You seem to be expecting the teaser trailer to explain absolutely everything to you, and yet you know full well that teaser trailers usually do not do this. I can only come to the conclusion that you have already pre-judged the film on the basis that you do not like Christopher Nolan and so you are attacking the film with anything you can find, regardless of how silly it makes you look.
-I don't like Christopher Nolan
-It was too long
-They took away from the legend of Batman
-No nudity
-I'm running out of ideas that don't count so I'm interested to see what you have to say.
Lets begin 2 years of posts.....NOW!
"Think of film noir and if you picture the story as a maze, you don’t want to be hanging above the maze watching the characters make the wrong choices because it’s frustrating. You actually want to be in the maze with them, making the turns at their side, that keeps it more exciting…I quite like to be in that maze."
As do I, we need more storytellers/directors out there like Nolan.
He should be concentrating his time and effort on making a sequel to Inception!!
I can also already tell you he is going to ruin the Superman series with the upcoming Man of Steel but he won't be the first: Bryan Singer already did that!!
There hasn't been a decent big screen Superman movie since Superman 1 with Christopher Reeve!!
by the way, I know exactly what a Teaser Trailer is.
A Teaser Trailer must not give too much away of a movie (and we seen too many Teaser Trailers recently give the whole movie away including the plot twists)
NOR
must it not show too little to not cause interest in the upcoming movie.
USING what I learned 26 years ago when I was a Real Estate broker selling multi-million dollars commercial real estate:
AIDA
A - Attention (Awareness): attract the attention of the customer.
I - Interest: raise customer interest by focusing on and demonstrating advantages and benefits (instead of focusing on features, as in traditional advertising).
D - Desire: convince customers that they want and desire the product or service and that it will satisfy their needs.
A - Action: lead customers towards taking action and/or purchasing.
no, I didn't make this up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDA_(marketing)
A Teaser Trailer must do the same thing with a movie - after all, a movie is a product and we, the moviegoers, are the customer buying this product.
This Teaser Trailer has not instill in me A, I and D and it will definitely not cause me to take Action.
Yes, you can tell the future. Seriously, give Nolan a break. He's not directing Superman for starters. And saying that Singer ruined the franchise is a bit hypochondriacal. The comics still sell. There's still a lot of interest in the upcoming project. That's not ruining a franchise. Besides, I think a lot of people can't get passed the fact that Reeve is dead and will never be Superman again. Superman Returns may have had issues but I don't think it's as bad as some claim. I suppose it's easy to rant on a film like this and of course many people think it's cool to join the ranting. Again, you don't state any reasons. You merely present it as a fact. For what it's worth, the Donner cut of Superman 2 is quite al right too, IMO. I am also of the opinion that 3 and 4 were a mess, but Returns wasn't half as bad if you ask me as those critics claimed. And Singer, the man behind The Usual Suspects and X2, really knows his Superman a lot better than you or me. As for the next one, let's cut them some slack, okay. Here's how it goes:
1) Watch the film
2) Form an opinion
3) Refrain from trying to be in vogue with sour critics
And thus concludes our lesson for today.
you just read what you want to read.
I was using wiki to tell you I didn't make AIDA up and the Teaser Trailer did not meet any of the marketing requirements in AIDA to make me want to see the film
And Darth Dimi: your argument is weak - there is no lesson in your argument!!
Inception deserves a sequel! The Superman movies and the Batman movies don't!
I guess you like LOUD, NOISY, QUICK EDITED films like The Dark Knight - filled with characters that have nothing to do!!
Anyway, I don't think Bane will break Batman's back. I think he'll break Gordon's. It makes much more sense story-wise. The status quo at the beginning of the film has Batman missing/retired/away. For Bane to break Batman's back, Batman would have to come back, have the fight, get his back broken, go through rehabilitation and then come back once again. It just slows things down.
However, breaking Gordon's back advances the story, and is much more in line with Bane's intelligence and cunning. By breaking Gordon's back, Bane will force Batman to act when is isn't necessarily ready to do so. I think far too much emphasis is placed on Bane actually breaking the bat; the brilliance of the plan is that Bane was able to wear Batman down to the point where breaking his back was possible. Breaking Gordon's back would also remove one of Batman's strongest allies, which would be a double blow following the corruption and death of Harvey Dent. And finally, Bane is a totally different villain to the rest of Batman's rogues gallery. He is motivated by different things, fights for a different purpose. By brutally attacking Gordon in such a way, Batman would naturally approach Bane the same way he did the Joker when an altogether different approach would be necessary. All of this would stack the odds heavily in Bane's favour.
Concerning youre only critic on the dark knight, I agree that it's loud, and blowing up from all parts. But which Blockbuster doesn't ? I guess the Bond film are among the one who have the most sound and music during the all movie, and QOS give us a good example of quick editing... as well as Inception that you like so much.
I'm not sure TDK was so quick edited. There was a lot of different plan, and it was sometime hard to follow, but all this noise and quickness is part of the style of Nolan to get us very close to the action and to the characters. You have the right not to like this style, not to condemn it.
As for the character, the movie IS about how the characters interact with each other and are force into action. The story is build on it.
Otherwise, I think the same as Bartleby : it would be great if Batman had his back broken. it would let time to other character, such as Catwoman, to fight with evil,and then have Batman back, why not with exoskeleton. But I guess it's pretty unlikely to happen to the hero in the middle of the film. It's pretty sure that Gordon will have the same fate in TDKR as Rachel in TDK, bringing Batman to change his way with the villains.
Anyway, I'm excited about it, and I hope they'll make something great from Bane.
As for Inception, it's my favourite movie in years, and doing a sequel would just weaken the film, as QOS did, in a way, with the impact of CR story.