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I don't think the "two year crowd" is a bunch of "naive" people who think you can get movies likes this in two year's time from scratch (the rumor about work already started on Bond 25 is then quite some big hope to them !).
And in the meantime, I see some "I'll wait for 2016 for a good product" who claims to be less naive, but are actually even more irrealistic when it seems they think we can already know the team behind a movie that will be done in 3 years - aka "the whole SF team return" (you're not part of that crowd because you acknowledge we can expect quite some changes, but I don't think at all they think like you do !). Heck, even Sony Entertainment may be totally different at that time !
You phrased it very well @Suivez. :-)
Sorry @Quarterdeck, I missed this. It's just gossip from people who were involved in the production of The King's Speech so feel free to take it with a pinch of salt - I probably shouldn't have posted it. Apparently, Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush didn't get on with him at all because he's not a great people person and is more interested in technicalities than performances but, that said, so was Hitchcock!
A rumor I heard (not on the Internet - but don't think I'm an insider!) about Deakins' bad reputation is strengthened by the fact that voters from the Academy won't vote for him (but peers or fellow countrymen will) :)
But in such jobs, "being cool" is often a problem actually ! In France's biggest newspaper, a paper about the director of the last Palme d'Or in Cannes describes him as a kind of cult leader, no less...
"Sorry @Quarterdeck, I missed this. It's just gossip from people who were involved in the production of The King's Speech so feel free to take it with a pinch of salt - I probably shouldn't have posted it. Apparently, Colin Firth and Geoffrey Rush didn't get on with him at all because he's not a great people person and is more interested in technicalities than performances but, that said, so was Hitchcock![/quote]"
Thanks for the reply. There may be something in it (a la Hitchcock) - I did see an interview with him round the time of the Oscars where he did come over a bit technically obsessesed/perfectionist (maybe that's what annoys the actors!)
Still, as I type, the pendulum seems to have swung back towards Mendes (B24 AND B25 if you believe some gossip...)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2332454/Sam-Mendes-dramatically-decides-return-director-James-Bond-movie-initially-refusing-offer.html
Let's see what Deadline says.
Deadline's latest is older than the Daliy Mail's.
Maybe he said "let's see" because of the impending updated article from them.
That's right. This is the most recent update we have:
http://www.showbiz411.com/2013/05/29/confirmed-skyfall-director-sam-mendes-in-for-bond-24-and-likely-25
1. It's essentially M's film M's Story and Bond is just really a guest star in his own movie but unless the new M's daughter is kidnapped or some such plot is established I hope Bond 24 will be exclusively about Bond's story.
2. the locations felt very fake and except for the Asian stuff it felt very dark and drabby.
I liked Skyfall I need to point this out is it as good as Casino Royale or Quantum of Solace no but its better then most of the Moore entries the Brosnan era and even the later Connery entries (Specifically better then Diamonds are forever and Goldfinger)
Like I said I enjoyed it but I am just a little concerned for all I know Mendes can give me a bond film I want A high octain thriller adventure which has 007 searching the world to solve some great mystery/conspiracy Location in New York and Seychelles Islands The Hildebrand Rarity as the title even Yes doing the theme all of that could very well happen (and Emma Stone as a bond girl) Mendes coming back doesn't mean we will get Skyfall 2.0 but since I am just ok with Skyfall I am just ok with this news.
Fake is perhaps the wrong word and as soon as I posted it I realized someone was going to ask about it... I will take back that comment and say they spent way to much time in London in both filming and well being there in the film.
True. Given Mendes apparently had a hand in coming up with the idea for B24 along with Logan - maybe now he's seen what Logan has done with it, it's perked him up a bit!
Wild Card Theory: MGW/Babs said they could work with Mendes in the future, if not B24...a later one. Perhaps they're lining up 24 & 25 in one schedule (which would take advatange of Craig's diminishing time to keep at the role) with Mendes pegged in for 25 and a new director for 24.
Or not...!
Mind you that kind of thinking would give credence to 24-25 one-plot rumours.
Except the elephant in the room that no one is mentioning is the increased development time between B19 and B20. Remind me how that turned out again?
It all depends when Logan started the script. If the script is finished now and they get a director locked in by the start of June then late 2014 is achievable.
What you call fake I think was awesome. Many of us who have read Fleming's Moonraker were eager to see a movie that spends more time in London.
I mean, I love those previous moments like the shot of the Big Ben in GF, the Thames in TWINE, the hidden MI6 in DAD, so SF was even greater.
Honestly I liked Skyfall and yes I read All of Flemings bond novels (when I suggest Vermont or Upstate New York both were used a few times by Fleming I am laughed at) but I feel London was very dreary and gray and while it usually is bond goes off to some glamorous location after seeing gray. In Skyfall the gray dreariness overshadowed Bond in Shang hai or Macau. There are beautiful parts of both London and Scotland I just feel in skyfall they were dreary and gray.. And now for the thought that is going to upset people I am sorry but The Bourne Legacy was a prettier film the shots in Alaska and Malta were amazing.
Let me make it clear here I am not saying The Bourne Legacy is better then Skyfall I am just saying the locations looked nicer.
But we all yearn for different things from Fleming I yearn use of a rural USA that Fleming did and Seychelles islands to be used (along with the Hildebrand rarity and maybe plot elements of the short story to be used)
They are all just opinions I feel a certain way about skyfall you feel a different way it's all good :)
I also really miss the films being released in the summer. I have such great memories of it and would love to see a Bond movie in the summertime again someday.
However, I think that the chances of this are quite slim. I'm sure they'll go with the "if it aint broke don't fix it" logic on this. Especially after all the money that Skyfall made last November.
Le sigh...
Firstly, Summer that year is pretty much booked-up with tentpole studio pictures. 3 huge movies are coming out that summer, Star Wars, The Avengers 2 and Pirates 5. Each will be huge, and in the case of Star Wars and Avengers we're talking about potential films that could crack the top 3 box-office earners of all time. All 3 films will play all summer long and there will be the additional crop of counter-programming adult comedies etc. Bond 24 would fare well, it's likely that the film would have the strongest legs internationally over the other films, but domestically it could take a hit. Not a big enough hit to sink the entire ship but the sheer crowded nature of the marketplace will make things difficult for Bond to really stand out.
Secondly, Bond and SF in particular have done wonders in their November slot for over 17 years. Why change? There is a lot of precedent that the films work in that release window. Creative risks should be encouraged but in terms of business it would be foolhardy to ignore such clear evidence, Bond is a proven hit during these months.
I would put money for November 2015. I'm with you guys though, I'd love to see Bond 24 sooner rather than later. But you only need to look at this board to see the admiration for CR compared to the general disdain of QOS. Imagine if QOS had a year to work through it's script issues; the likelihood is that people would have different opinions. I think we'd all rather wait and get a better film (like SF) than have EON rush something out and have it be sub-par (QOS).
I would always rather wait longer for something than get it when I want it and risk having a mediocre product. Just look at video games: when some get big six-nine month delays, I'm happy, because that's so much more time they get to put into it.
The difference is, Bond 24's script got a massive head start. Work began on it about a year ago, that's already given it a significant advantage over the script for QoS. I think the script for Bond 24 is in pretty good shape already and if the cameras were to start rolling in the first quarter of next year, that's still another 6 to 7 months at least to still work on the script and enough time to get the film out at the back end of 2014 without the film suffering the handicaps of QoS.