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Well thank God most people disagree with you because another Cross film would likely mean the end of the series judging by how badly Legacy did at the box office.
I thought Legacy was a decent, enjoyable action flick but the first three films are on a whole other level.
And since you haven't actually seen Damon as Bourne, you can't fairly judge if Renner as Cross is better or not (and for the record, I don't think he is and I think nearly everyone would agree with me).
Bring back Damon or recast Bourne, get a better director and make it a stand alone adventure. They can base it on one of the continuation books if they're that short of ideas.
But please no more ties to the original trilogy. That story is done now and if they want the character to survive for a further 10 years they need to prove that the series can do something different.
The Craig era did borrow to much from the Bourne series. So all the negativity about the series is a bit daft as they actually did show EON a new direction.
Both Cruise & Renner did decent last outings. The Bourne Legacy was still interesting enough imho to warrant an other movie, and the last MI installment was nothing but sheer excitement.
Lets hope Mendes can up the ante for both competing franchises and leaves the personal stuff aside, that has been done so often in the last three movies that it gets kind of boring and shows little originality. I believe since TND we did not get an all out actioner without making anything personal.
Why? What have you got against those with a lower than average IQ?
Don't start, he will just carry out his hatred again.
Then Aaron Cross isn't the only one who needs to take his meds.
Nothing at all. Hell, I even deal with them, if necessary. But still I wouldn't send them out when the stakes are high, since I believe in using the best tool or man possible for whatever task.
Well, you said you "find it terrible [sic] hard to root for someone who is a dumbhead without hit medicine." That means you have trouble sympathising with someone who needs nootropics to function on the battlefield.
Battlefields are beside the point. A good soldier shouldn't engage in thinking anyhow. That's exactly what makes him a good soldier and keeps him from asking questions, that might be hard to answer. But in a clandestine warfare of Intelligence Services you should expect more and especially some reasoning. If not you end up with a dumb killing machine. Should this be the kind of Guy you sympathize with, fine with me! I tend to be a lover of Secret Agents and I don't intend to change that just because of PC, Zeitgeist or whatever.
Which is exactly what Aaron Cross demonstrates throughout the film, even if it doesn't come naturally.
I really honestly and truly won't watch a Damon film anymore, unless under duress. Eg, I have no honest interest in watching Elysium, simply because Damon is in it. All of his films, the recent ones anyway, I find to be lame preachy affairs. He is so damn faux self-deprecating.
Too bad about Elysium though, because I generally will lap up any big budget sci-fi, even those with obvious pretentions such as Prometheus, but Damon preaching is generally beyond the pale.
He ruined the last two Bourne films IMO, which is why I like Legacy, because Damon wasn't in it; ie, it was a Bourne-like film, but minus Damon.
Green Zone, btw I think is the most tiresome preachy Damon film ever made.
So I can fully understand why @Risico007 and others, might want to stay clear of anything Damon.
As a fellow Damon loather though, Bourne Identity I think is still worth watching, mainly because its a good take on the original Ludlum story. Damon can't ruin the Ludlum story and the character's mythology. Plus Greengras is not the director. Damon and Greengras are a lethal combo. They also did Green Zone.
But yes, I would like to see more Bourne films, but the Bourne character does need to return, otherwise what is the point?. Bourne is a very interesting character.
In the Bourne universe, he actually is the world's most accomplished and dangerous operative, and in so many different ways. Much potential here.
I loathed 'Legacy' with a passion. Hated the film. I would love to go back and give it another watch, but when I think about how disappointing that joke of a CGI finale was, alongside the bad editing in the fight scenes, I just can't bring myself to it.
I dont get this preoccupation with hating a bloke so that automatically renders the film unwatchable.
I think Laz is a legend and love the way he is the James Hunt of Bond actors but I would never dream of watching The Man From Hong Kong or his Emanuelle appearances for the very reason they look appalling. For all I know he gives oscar winning performances in them but that doesnt matter if the surrounding film is awful.
Yeah, that's exactly my point, but never mind. You know let's leave it at that. We don't seem to make any Progress and after all, these are MY preferences and love it or loathe it, but in literature, Movies as well as in real Life I'll continue to prefer intelligent people over dumb ones and the gifted over the mediocre. But that's just me, obviously.
Same here. I don't get why it's so hard for people to differentiate characters from their actors.
Bruce Willis is apparently greedy, bored of action films and hard to work with, but I wouldn't refuse to watch any Die Hard film again because of it. Willis might be a dick, John Mcclane isn't.
Tom Cruise is a scientologist that seems batshit mental but I still enjoy the Mission Impossible films and he was still brilliant in Tropic Thunder.
And then there's Sean Connery who thinks it's fine to hit women and is also a big SNP supporter. Now I actually have no problem with Scottish independence, but he also happily accepted a knighthood and is living in the Bahamas as a tax exile.
But despite this I doubt anyone on here thinks that Connery is a bad James Bond and I doubt anyone would refuse to watch his films again because of it.
Who cares? I don't care about his beliefs, sexual orientation, race, hobbies, none of that. You cannot sit there and watch something like 'Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol,' and tell me that he does not kick some ass in that film, solely because he's a Scientologist. In what realm is that warranted or does it make sense?
That just cannot be argued whatsoever. Cruise moving through a nightclub, popping bad guys, is just textbook cool. You cannot help but love when:
Having said that, although I do find Damon to be incredibly pompous at times, I've still found myself enjoying a lot of his films.
That's the spirit. The movie is fantastic, though I must say, I sometimes tire of it from seeing it so many times.
How anyone prefers 'Legacy' to 'Identity' - or any of the Damon films, for that matter - is unbeknownst to me. But, that's just my opinion. Do let us know what you think.
That will be a different matter entirely. Then we will just ridicule you for preferring a bad film to a good one.
Off topic, but I loathe Tom Cruise because he is batsh*t crazy as a Scientologist. But he is a great actor, at least sometimes, and I love Eyes Wide Shut, in which he is excellent, partially because he forgets he is Tom Cruise.
Well, that and he gets sexually humiliated every step of the way.;-) No but seriously, I find the movie fascinating and his character is, for a change, vulnerable and for all his wealth and good look is not master of his surroundings. He doesn't truly know his wife, he clumsily steps in a dangerous game that he does not know, etc. Dr. William Harford is the anti-Cruise.
Ayn Rand fan, by any chance?