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Title Track - Casino Royale
Title Credits - Skyfall
Main Adversary - Skyfall
Main Girl - Casino Royale
Overall Plot - Skyfall
Dialogue - Skyfall
Score - Casino Royale
Settings - Casino Royale
Action - Skyfall
Humor - Skyfall
Cinematography - Skyfall
Benign Bizarre - Casino Royale
Suspense - Casino Royale
Minor Characters - Casino Royale
Pre Titles - The Living Daylights
Title Track - License to Kill
Title Credits - The Living Daylights
Main Adversary - License to Kill
Main Girl - License to Kill
Overall Plot - License to Kill
Dialogue - The Living Daylights
Score - The Living Daylights
Settings - The Living Daylights
Action - The Living Daylights
Humor - The Living Daylights
Cinematography - The Living Daylights
Benign Bizarre - License to Kill
Suspense - The Living Daylights
Minor Characters - License to Kill
Pre Titles - LTK
Title Track - TLD
Title Credits - TLD
Main Adversary - LTK
Main Girl - LTK
Overall Plot - TLD
Dialogue - LTK
Score - TLD
Settings - TLD
Action - I know you shouldn't do this, but I can't decide!
Humor - LTK
Cinematography - TLD
Benign Bizarre - LTK
Suspense - TLD
Minor Characters - LTK
DRAW- However, on my Bond ranking thus far, LTK is 0.2+ than TLD.
Pre Titles- LTK
Title Track- TLD
Title Credits- TLD
Main Adversary- LTK
Main Girl- LTK
Overall Plot- LTK
Dialogue- TLD
Score- TLD
Settings- TLD
Acion- LTK
Humor- TLD
Cinematography- TLD
Benign Bizarre - LTK
Suspense - TLD
Minor Characters - LTK
TLD:8 - LTK:7. Hmmm. I think this is consistent with my personal ranking.
Title Track: LTK
Title Credits: TLD
Main Villain: LTK (Sanchez way more menacing the either Necros, Whitaker or Koskov)
Main Bond Girl: LTK
Overall Plot: LTK
Dialogue: TLD
Score: TLD
Settings: TLD
Action: LTK (Bond's fight on the rooftop vs 2 Chinese agents one of my favorite franchise scene, even if Bond lost)
Humor: TLD
Cinematography: TLD
Benign Bizarre: LTK
Suspense: LTK
Minor Characters: TLD (LTK's got no Saunders)
TLD wins 11 categories, LTK wins 4.
PTS 19-2 TLD
Title Track 16-5 TLD
Title Credits 12-8 TLD
Main Villain 21-0 LTK
Main Bond Girl 11-10 LTK
Overall Plot 11-10 TLD
Dialogue 16-5 TLD
Score 21-0 TLD
Settings 21-0 TLD
Action 11-9 TLD
Humor 14-7 TLD
Cinematography 20-1 TLD
Benign Bizarre: 21-0 LTK
Suspense 11-10 TLD
Minor Characters 13-8 LTK
TLD wins in total points, too:
TLD 190 total points
LTK 123 total points
Title Track: TB
Title Credits: TB
Main Villain: DN
*Main Bond Girl: DN
Overall Plot: TB
Dialogue: DN
Score: TB
Settings: TB
Action: TB
Humor: TB
Cinematography: TB
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: TB
Minor Characters: DN
Glamor: TB
Ally: DN
Henchman: TB
Title Credits: TB
Main Villain: DN
*Main Bond Girl: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: TB
Settings: TB
Action: TB
Humor: DN
Cinematography: TB
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: TB
Minor Characters: DN
Glamor: TB
Ally: DN
Henchman: TB
What are you classing the title track for DN as? The Bond Theme? Under The Mango Tree?
Title Credits: Thunderball
Main Villain: Dr. No
Main Bond Girl: Thunderball
Overall Plot: Dr. No
Dialogue: Dr. No
Score: Thunderball
Settings: Thunderball
Action: Thunderball
Humor: Dr. No
Cinematography: Thunderball
Benign Bizarre: Dr. No
Suspense: Thunderball
Minor Characters: Dr. No
Glamor: Thunderball
Ally: Dr. No
Henchman: Dr. No
Title Credits: TB
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: TB
Settings: TB
Action: TB
Humor: TB
Cinematography: TB
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: DN
Glamor: TB
Ally: DN
Henchman: TB
Title Credits: TB
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: TB
Settings: DN
Action: TB
Humor: DN
Cinematography: TB
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: DN
Glamour: TB
Ally: DN
Henchman: TB
Title Credits: DN
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: TB
Settings: TB
Action: TB
Humor: TB
Cinematography: DN
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: DN
Glamor: TB
Ally: DN
Henchman: TB
Title Credits: TB
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: TB
Overall Plot: TB
Dialogue: TB
Settings: TB
Action: TB
Humor: TB
Cinematography: TB
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: TB
Minor Characters: TB
Glamor: TB
Ally: DN
Henchman: DN. Dent is the best in the series.
It really is in the writing & creativity, not in the budgets....
Title Credits: TB
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: TB
Settings: TB
Action: DN
Humor: DN
Cinematography: TB
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: DN
Glamor: TB
Ally: DN
Henchman: DN
11-5 for Dr. No, and Thunderball only wins a few of those because Dr. No was the first entry, and therefore less refined.
The Bond Theme with the lengthy percussion coda.
Title Credits: TB
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: DN
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: DN
Score: TB
Settings: TB
Action: TB
Humor: DN
Cinematography: TB
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: DN
Minor Characters: DN
Glamor: TB
Ally: DN
Henchman: DN
A smaller budget forces you to be more creative and put more emphasis on story and characters, in my opinion. Not such a bad thing at all.
What, like the first Star Wars or Indy movies? ;)
Title Credits: TB
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: TB
Overall Plot: TB
Dialogue: TB
Score: TB
Settings: TB
Action: TB
Humor: TB
Cinematography: TB
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: TB
Minor Characters: TB
Glamor: TB
Ally: DN
Henchman: TB
I am a big fan of Thunderball! (Sorry there, Calvin Dyson)
Ain't that enough to make the choice? Haha
Actually, I've never been the #1 fan of Honey Rider, no matter how emblematic she is.
Title Credits: TB
Main Villain: TIE
Main Bond Girl: TB
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: TB
Score: TB
Settings: DN
Action: TB
Humor: DN
Cinematography: TB
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: TB
Minor Characters: TIE
Glamor: TB
Ally: DN
Henchman: TIE
Oh well in that case, I'll edit mine. The Bond theme is always going to win :-)
Like to add Bond Himself as a element? For example I like the more relaxed prowess of Connery in TB to more than the more exitable Connery of DN. Just a thought?
Anyway here are my thoughts with added commentery:
Title Track: TB is a bit of a slow paced din. Granny music like my granny's old tape deck. I think I give the edge to DN, a bit more bold and vibrant and changed the world of music in the early 60s. Film music, that is. Sorry my backspace doesn't work, if I #$*% up It's out there for all to see.
Title Credits: DN again. The dots are creative and bold. TB drags a bit.
Main Villain: DN. Well what more can you see. A formidable villain, a template to. Largo is undone by the actor dubbing his voice, Robert Rietty. Very overcooked. Adolfo Celi provided a whispery voice I prefer. You can hear it on the Patrick Macnee doco on the disc.
*Main Bond Girl: Gotta give this to TB. I'd like to play Dominoes with Domino every time. A case on black on white". (I'm of Tunisia extraction)
Overall Plot: Definitely TB. A nuclear threat is still with is. The ticking clock, the sense of worldwide panic, love it all. DN is a leisurely walk thru Jamaica, just a snore.
Dialogue: TB has gthe best dialouge in the whole franchise, so obviously I give the edge to TB by the landslide. "On yogort and lemon juice, I can't wait!"
Score: Another definite TB. "Underwater Mayhem" I like to turn on in my car, do a bit of fancy footwork to get thru the traffic. Look out rush hour, here comes John Barry :)
Settings: TB yes again. Beautiful Nassau trumps violence riddled Jamaica. Jamaica has most homicides in world. Murder capital 1. So no go. Nassau is a millionaire's playground, sand, surf, the lot. Also throws in France and Shrublands for good measure.
Action: TB again. DN is weakest actioneer in the franchise. Nothing to look forward to. He goes round the same fricking corner 6 times in DN car chase in the Sunbeam! TB has some great fights and some underwater mayhem. Yes, there we go again :)
Humor: TB again. I laugh a lot, during this one. Keeps me in good spirits when I flick on the disc. Love it when he locks Count Lippy in the heat box. "What the hell you think you're doing?"... lol!!! Love the crab on the seafloor too.
Cinematography: TB a no brainer. Widescreen Panavision.
Benign Bizarre: TB. The jetpack, the stretching machine, the War Room, a shark pool. Love it all. DN is hamstrung by budget. Would love to have seen a smaller story done first with the low budget. DN needed to be made in 1967 with YOLT money. Think of the possibilities. One of Fleming's flights of fancy.
Suspense: TB but on my the fault! I snoose a lot during TB, off the sandman. But you know what. DN is even more boring. Wow just wow.
Minor Characters: TB. Love the Home Secretary and the tension between him an M. M stands up for his best agent. Home Secretary could not give a hoot less of a hoot, he has bigger issues to deal with than Bond's playboy antics. I like Quarrel but he's just not enough. TB has more of a team aspect. Bond as teamk player? Get outta here, but it works.
Glamor: TB again. Bond dressed with finesse in TB. Bond looks like he raided my grand father's wardrobe in DN :) More jet set, and like I said, Jamaica is murder Capital of the world. Yuck. Sugar cane industry brought it down. Doesn't stop me cooking up a meal every now and them though
Ally: DN has it. Quarrel a good bloke, a sad end too. Felix what a creep (in TB)!
Henchman: TB. "Yanni... meet Mr Vargas..." Bravo to that.
Bond: TB. Connery has the icy cool. Love the more relaxed and positive Bond, less stress than he is in DN. A good role model if you're looking for a more positive outlook every day.
In conclusion, DN 4 points, TB 14 points. Ding Ding ding arrooga we have a winner!
In conclusion, love the topic. What's next?
Title Credits: Thunderball
Main Villain: Dr No
Main Bond Girl: Dr No
Overall Plot: Thunderball
Dialogue: Dr No
Score: Thunderball
Settings: Thunderball
Action: Thunderball
Humor: Thunderball
Cinematography: Thunderball
Benign Bizarre: Dr No
Suspense: Dr No
Minor Characters: Dr No
Glamor: Thunderball
Ally: Dr No
Henchman: Thunderball
Interesting idea this. Still prefer Dr No tho...
;-)
Title Credits: TB
Main Villain: DN
Main Bond Girl: TB
Overall Plot: DN
Dialogue: TB
Score: TB
Settings: TB
Action: TB
Humour: TB
Cinematography: TB
Benign Bizarre: DN
Suspense: TB
Minor Characters: DN
Glamor: TB
Ally: DN
Henchman: TB