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Most Overrated TV Show of All Time?

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edited October 2013 in General Movies & TV Posts: 19
Hey guys, I'd like to know if anybody can defend the kind of attention given to Monty Python? I have watched bits of the show and they were absolute crap. I also think Fraser starring Kelsey Grammer was comments deleted by Moderator. Please respect our terms and conditions
Who here agrees with me? And cast your votes for your most overrated TV show of all time!
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  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    I think it is time for the SPANISH INQUISITION


  • BeatlesSansEarmuffsBeatlesSansEarmuffs
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    I think @Face is here for an argument...
  • FaceFace
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    Can we just start up a discussion?
  • JohnBarryFanJohnBarryFan
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    Dexter hands down. No likeable character, nothing but reasons to show violence.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Probably Seinfeld for me; I never liked it much.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    edited October 2013 Posts: 7,582
    Overrated is of course a subjective thing. I have never found Frasier to be half as good as the critics thought. Not as well written or acted as everyone was telling me.

    On the other hand in the UK an American sitcom called Just Shoot Me never caught on, and I loved it.

    My ultimate choice for overrated would be 'How I Met Your Mother'.

    On the subject of Python, that was a show that oozed originality. It was shocking and outrageous and chaotic in a way we hadn't seen before.

    Now it looks mostly bizarre, and can be overwhelmingly dull. Time has been unkind to it, but the 'best of' will still challange any comedy anywhere.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    My mother can't stand Friends. I can see why some might not like it but I think that - for the most part - it works.

    Never really been a fan of Lost or Father Ted yet they are very much loved.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Indeed, Lost lost me in the first season even.
  • minorMajor9thminorMajor9th
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    The Sopranos and Breaking Bad, tied.
  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    I was never a fan of Lost, couldn't really get the appeal of Dexter, I'm most indifferent to Friends and How I met your mother seems even worst.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    edited October 2013 Posts: 13,978
    Friends, that's the big one. How that show ran for as long as it did is beyond me. And I find all the hooha surrounding Mrs Brown's Boys baffling. Then there's Gavin & Stacey, which I can't stand (I hear the US version has already been axed).
  • JBFan626JBFan626
    edited October 2013 Posts: 1,497
    minorMajor9th wrote:
    The Sopranos and Breaking Bad, tied.

    Totally agree, those were the first two shows that immediately came to my mind as well. The Sopranos is just a Goodfellas rip-off made into a TV series, that does little more than to glorify violence but tries to justify it's methods by having a psycho-analytical basis. Breaking Bad carries a similar cynical attitude, that also basks in rationalizing immorality.
  • minorMajor9thminorMajor9th
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    JBFan626 wrote:
    minorMajor9th wrote:
    The Sopranos and Breaking Bad, tied.

    Totally agree, those were the first two shows that immediately came to my mind as well. The Sopranos is just a Goodfellas rip-off made into a TV series, that does little more than to glorify violence but tries to justify it's methods by having a psycho-analytical basis. Breaking Bad carries a similar cynical attitude, that also basks in rationalizing immorality.

    Very well put.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
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    I totally disagree about the Sopranos being overrated. It got a little weird at times thanks to Lynch, but the mob stuff was dead on and there was a lot of original material about mob life that Goodfellas didn't cover. Hill and Burke weren't even made men.

    For me, MASH was the most overrated show ever. Friends and Cheers as well,
  • minorMajor9thminorMajor9th
    edited October 2013 Posts: 157
    Cheers is great, though it took a while to get going - plus Diane was always grating. Agreed on MASH though - never came round to it.

    Re: The Sopranos might have been accurate and extensive in its portrayal of the inner workings of the mob, but it's a slick, soulless affair. Goodfellas and Casino suffer from the same problem - glamourising violence and organised crime.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I would say 'Dexter,' but I think once the series started to wrap up, even the die hard fans realized what a mess it was and how completely downhill and ridiculous it got after season 4 concluded, all the way up to an incredibly dissatisfying finale. I got through season 5, which I know couldn't have been as great as season 4 was, but still, it was just awful to watch, and then I saw a few episodes of season 6 and stopped there. It just wasn't doing it for me at all: weak storyline, dull characters, no excitement.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    Cheers and Two and a Half Men are the two worst US sitcoms I have seen. Never understood their popularity. About as funny as a case of piles.
  • identigraphidentigraph
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    minorMajor9th wrote:
    Cheers is great, though it took a while to get going - plus Diane was always grating. Agreed on MASH though - never came round to it.

    Re: The Sopranos might have been accurate and extensive in its portrayal of the inner workings of the mob, but it's a slick, soulless affair. Goodfellas and Casino suffer from the same problem - glamourising violence and organised crime.

    I always thought the earlier episodes of Cheers were the best ones!?

    Freinds was a bit poor in my opinion, but insanely popular!
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Friends would take the crown of most overrated for me.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Most of the popular ones - 'Friends,' 'The Sopranos,' 'The Wire,' etc. - are still unwatched by me, and I doubt I'll ever get around to seeing them. What about 'How I Met Your Mother'? Seems to be so popular, I see so many quotes and memes from it, but I watched the first few episodes of the first season, and then I saw an episode or two from a later season at some point, and it just wasn't for me. It's unique, the buildup to who the 'mother' is, but watching it, I just didn't really care how it unraveled. I wasn't into the comedy, nor the characters, and think it's definitely overrated.

    Same with 'Big Bang Theory.' I know lots of people love it, and perhaps I went into it with a negative attitude, but every time it was on TV at college and I decided to give it a watch, it wasn't for me. I wouldn't say the show is overrated, it's just that when I saw it, I was surprised it earned Emmy's.
  • minorMajor9thminorMajor9th
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    identigraph wrote:
    minorMajor9th wrote:
    Cheers is great, though it took a while to get going - plus Diane was always grating. Agreed on MASH though - never came round to it.

    Re: The Sopranos might have been accurate and extensive in its portrayal of the inner workings of the mob, but it's a slick, soulless affair. Goodfellas and Casino suffer from the same problem - glamourising violence and organised crime.

    I always thought the earlier episodes of Cheers were the best ones!?

    Ernie 'Coach' Pantuso was one of the funniest characters in the series some of the best lines, but other than him the writing was a bit hit and miss.

    Once Kirstie Alley arrived in Season 7, things improved a great deal.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited October 2013 Posts: 12,837
    Well I stopped watching Lost during the first series, I jut couldn't get into it. There are tons of sitcoms I think are overrated, Friends, Fresh Prince, Big Bang Theory, etc.
    JBFan626 wrote:
    that also basks in rationalizing immorality.

    Well first of all it doesn't glorify violence. And rationalizing immorality is the point of the show. Walt gets more and more evil while he keeps telling himself that he's doing it all for the right reasons (family), but he's not. Did you even watch the finale?


    BAIN123 wrote:
    Father Ted

    Nah I always loved that. I think people remember it for the wrong reasons though. Yeah Jack was funny at first but the best part of that show was Dougal.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @thelivingroyale, trust me, you didn't miss much on 'Lost,' and I'll be the first to tell you that it gets convoluted real quick. The transition from the season one cliffhanger to the season two premiere was one of my favorites in television history, and I just loved having my biggest question answered. But, as the story went on, the plot became SO confusing with different timelines and whatnot, and it seemed that for every ten questions they proposed, you would get (maybe) one or two answered, followed by another few questions. It was so annoying, they thought it was "risky" or "edgy" to do that, but when the show ended, I was just glad that the overheating of my brain would slowly stop. My girlfriend wants to see it, and I have no problem returning to it now that I have some concept of how it ends, but even now, I know it'll still be just as confusing as it was the first time I saw it.

    Sat around watching the first three seasons in about two or three days just so I could catch up and see the finale on TV, and it just became more and more disappointing, leaving one of those debatable endings that has fanboys enraged because their answer isn't the accepted "right" answer.
  • minorMajor9thminorMajor9th
    edited October 2013 Posts: 157
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    Did you even watch the finale?

    The most selfish 'self-sacrifice' I've ever seen. Walter White playing God.

    I can't agree with the OP who mentioned Frasier (one of my favourite comedies of all time) and the other who picked Father Ted.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited October 2013 Posts: 12,837
    minorMajor9th wrote:
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    Did you even watch the finale?

    The most selfish 'self-sacrifice' I've ever seen. Walter White playing God.

    How was it selfish? I think by the end of the series he was probably past redemption but he did everything he could to make things right.
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
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    Frasier is so much better than Cheers. Probably the only spin off I can think of to be much improved over the original.
  • minorMajor9thminorMajor9th
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    thelivingroyale wrote:
    minorMajor9th wrote:
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    Did you even watch the finale?

    The most selfish 'self-sacrifice' I've ever seen. Walter White playing God.

    How was it selfish? I think by the end of the series he was probably past redemption but he did everything he could to make things right.

    Too little too late, I'm afraid.
  • minorMajor9thminorMajor9th
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    WillyGalore wrote:
    Frasier is so much better than Cheers. Probably the only spin off I can think of to be much improved over the original.

    You can actually see the writing in Cheers gradually become more polished and farcical throughout the 11 seasons - more in the line of Frasier.
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
    edited October 2013 Posts: 2,341

    Sports Night

    The critics raved about the show and it had good cast but I watch this show and never crack a smile. I was shaking my head most of the time it was on the air. I never got the appeal or why the critics loved it so much. It was axed after two seasons…

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    It was great the first season but by Season 4 one has to wonder: How many ways can Jack save the world? By season 5 it was getting unbelievable and I finally gave up. How it hung around long as it did is beyond me.


  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited October 2013 Posts: 12,837
    minorMajor9th wrote:
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    minorMajor9th wrote:
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    Did you even watch the finale?

    The most selfish 'self-sacrifice' I've ever seen. Walter White playing God.

    How was it selfish? I think by the end of the series he was probably past redemption but he did everything he could to make things right.

    Too little too late, I'm afraid.

    He did everything he could do in his situation. He admitted to Skylar that he did it for himself. He made sure that Marie could bury Hank and he made sure that Walt Jr would at least get the money he deserved. He also saved Jesse and even gave him the opportunity to kill him.

    He didn't have to do this. He could've easily just died of cancer in the middle of nowhere but at least he tried to make things right, even though he knew that he was way past redemption at this point. What I loved about the finale was that for the first time in ages we weren't seeing Heisenberg, we were seeing Walter White.
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