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  • MythFaithBeliefDRMythFaithBeliefDR Banned
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    The Motion Picture is my fav. An unusual chocie but as a student of film it is great to see the true artistry and workmanship on screen.
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    QBranch wrote:
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    That is just brilliant! :))
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    MythFaithBeliefDR wrote:
    The Motion Picture is my fav. An unusual chocie but as a student of film it is great to see the true artistry and workmanship on screen.
    I love that movie, and I keep bouncing back and forth between that Trek VI as my favourite Trek movie...
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    edited November 2013 Posts: 7,854
    If you look at The Motion Picture without the rest of the films, it's a great film. They had the challenge of taking what worked on the small screen and making it work on the big screen. They had the challenge of taking Star Trek, a show that nobody really seemed to care about until reruns came into the picture, and making people enjoy it again. The fact that The Motion Picture succeeded where the show had failed is a true testament to it.

    And like I said when that picture was first posted: Craig looks like he belongs in that uniform, but Q just looks f*cked up.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited November 2013 Posts: 24,160
    I love TMP. It's Star Trek's version of 2001: A Space Odyssey and that's a sacred film for me. Yes, it's less action filled and energetic than TWOK but I find it a beautiful film and the pacing suits me fine. All those minutes of flying into V'ger are a feast to my eyes.

    My ranking, currently:

    1) ST
    2) ID
    3) TMP
    4) FC
    5) G
    6) TWOK
    7) TUC
    8) TSFS
    9) TVH
    10) I
    11) N
    12) TFF
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    7) TUC
    The Undiscovered Country has the coolest movie phasers though...

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  • SJK91SJK91
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    I like The Director's Cut of The Motion Picture, but haven't seen the true original. Is it all too different? Is one actually better than the other as some people claim?
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    The Motion Picture works so well because all the original cast (James Doohan aside) look hardly much older than when the original series ended ten years earlier. Shatner had aged considerably by The Wrath of Khan as had a number of the usual faces, but here at least, they didn't appear too much different from before. Shatner's Kirk was probably at his most serious here, and he became more lenient to others in subsequent releases, such as random disputes with Willard Decker

    It's the third, maybe second, of the best of the movie releases with the original cast, but The Wrath of Khan can't be beaten, but Ricardo Montalban stole the show that year
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    Shatner had aged considerably by The Wrath of Khan

    That worked quite well with the plot of Wrath of Khan through The Voyage Home.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    SJK91 wrote:
    I like The Director's Cut of The Motion Picture, but haven't seen the true original. Is it all too different? Is one actually better than the other as some people claim?
    The original is good too, but the DC has additional V'Ger shots and better matte paintings, as well as bridge sounds from the series. It just has more 'character'.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    DarthDimi wrote:
    My ranking, currently:

    1) TMP
    2) ID
    3) TMP
    4) FC
    5) G
    6) TWOK
    7) TUC
    8) TSFS
    9) TVH
    10) I
    11) N
    12) TFF
    Mine would be:

    1) TMP/TUC (tie)
    2) TWOK/TVH (tie)
    3) TSFS
    4) FC
    5) I
    6) TFF
    7) nothing after that interests me
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    I haven't seen beyond First Contact of the movie releases. I never took to the Next Generations cast after the original crew finished in 1991 so a favorites list would resemble -

    #1 The Wrath of Khan
    #2 The Motion Picture
    #3 The Undiscovered Country
    #4 The Search for Spock
    #5 Generations
    #6 The Final Frontier
    #7 First Contact
    #8 The Voyage Home
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    TOS ERA (Old and New)
    1. The Wrath of Khan
    2. Into Darkness
    3. The Search For Spock
    4. The Undiscovered Country
    5. Star Trek 2009
    6. The Voyage Home
    7. The Motion Picture
    8. The Final Frontier

    Next Gen
    9. First Contact
    10. Nemesis
    11.Insurrection
    12.Generations
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Murdock wrote:
    Next Gen
    9. First Contact
    10. Nemesis
    11.Insurrection
    12.Generations

    I would have at least stuffed Generations above Insurrection.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Agent007391 wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    Next Gen
    9. First Contact
    10. Nemesis
    11.Insurrection
    12.Generations

    I would have at least stuffed Generations above Insurrection.

    I hate Generations. It destroyed everything ST VI tried to accomplish and It gets negative points for Killing off Kirk in the most silly way possible. It's the DAD of Star Trek movies.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I would have called The Voyage Home the DAD of Stark Trek.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Agent007391 wrote:
    I would have called The Voyage Home the DAD of Stark Trek.

    Yeah but Voyage Home was deliberately made to be a light hearted film. Generations just takes a dump on TOS and Star Trek as a whole, then adds this stupid complicated plot that goes nowhere. Generations is the worst ST movie ever made IMO.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote:
    Generations is the worst ST movie ever made IMO.

    Total agreement here.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
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    Agent007391 wrote:
    I would have called The Voyage Home the DAD of Stark Trek.

    I would leave that label for Shatners movie.

    The Voyage Home is both funny and brilliantly in the CGI/effects departement, the story is great Star Trek and it is just great with the TOS crew out of their comfortzone. It is not the greatest dramatic story but after Khan & Search it was an excellent choice to do.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    SaintMark wrote:
    Agent007391 wrote:
    I would have called The Voyage Home the DAD of Star Trek.

    I would leave that label for Shatners movie.
    Compared to Generations, Shat's film was gold-pressed Latinum.

  • 00130013
    Posts: 1,817
    I haven't seen nothing of the Star Trek universe. If I wish to start, should I do it with the reboot, with the Motion Picture or with the series? (Actually, I don't think I'll see the series as they are too many episodes.)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    0013 wrote:
    (Actually, I don't think I'll see the series as they are too many episodes.)
    If you don't start with the series than you miss a LOT.
  • 00130013
    Posts: 1,817
    Yes but it is too time consuming! That's perhaps the reason I've never entered to the Star Trek universe, there are too many series and movies.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Watch the entire first season, then move on to the films in Order. When you get to Next Generation, skip Generations and start with First Contact and continue.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,789
    Murdock wrote:
    Watch the entire first season, then move on to the films in Order. When you get to Next Generation, skip Generations and start with First Contact and continue.
    Yer daft man, the second season is full of gems!!!
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    chrisisall wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    Watch the entire first season, then move on to the films in Order. When you get to Next Generation, skip Generations and start with First Contact and continue.
    Yer daft man, the second season is full of gems!!!

    True. Watch the first two seasons and continue on with I said. :))
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Murdock wrote:
    True. Watch the first two seasons and continue on with I said. :))
    We reach, brother! :))
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    @0013 You got to watch the original episodes to get a feel of things, as without Space Seed for example, you won't get such an understanding of The Wrath of Khan, although some like to go into their adventures blind

    Someone mentioned that The Voyage Home was a poor release, and have to go along with that as always. Seems as far detached from Star Trek as possible, as the Enterprise crew appear in a disastrous 'humor' appearance scattered around San Francisco on an effort to 'save whales'

    Nimoy wanted a fun approach after the seriousness of what came before, and while something of a favorite release with some, I can't see beyond it's the black mark of the movie series. At least things improved and got back on track with the next release The Final Frontier, and this time Shatner took over in the directors chair from Nimoy's ill-advised attempt, although he did do well for 1984's The Search for Spock

    The whole Star Trek industry can be a little intimidating for some with all the series, and film releases and everything it entails - I even get lost myself as a fan of it all, but then again, lost interest by the time of Deep Space Nine although The Next Generation was good, but it can never beat the original crew and episodes / movie titles

  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I wonder if Star Trek will continue as a film series or if there will be another TV series. If they want to continue this altered timeline, it'd be nice to see a reboot TNG series.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    Agent007391 wrote:
    I wonder if Star Trek will continue as a film series or if there will be another TV series. If they want to continue this altered timeline, it'd be nice to see a reboot TNG series.
    Rebooting TNG would really be scraping the bottom of the barrel would it not? Is that all that is left for Star Trek? Reboots?
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