Controversial opinons about the Bond Games

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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Ludovico wrote:
    It can be controversial, if one thinks it is a negligible aspect of Bond.
    True, the games do seem to be a rather insignificant part of the Bondiverse- at the moment. I guess it comes down to the amount (or lack) of impact the games have had (bar GE) and the video game industry in general, which is still a young medium. Although, I can see the games outshining the films at some point in the future.
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    I enjoy the games in between the films
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    I haven't played GE64 so I can't really comment.

    TWINE on the N64 is in my Top 3 favorite Bond games.

    So if I get this right you are a Bond fan, had an N64 but you never played GE64? What other reason was there to buy an N64?

    Don't you just love it on here? People astound me on a daily basis - there's really no other walk of life in which this happens.

    You're a piece of work, man. You'll jump on anyone who doesn't hold the same opinion you do, won't you? Talk about astounding.......you astound me on a daily basis with your constant hostility towards way too many members on here.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    00Beast wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I haven't played GE64 so I can't really comment.

    TWINE on the N64 is in my Top 3 favorite Bond games.

    So if I get this right you are a Bond fan, had an N64 but you never played GE64? What other reason was there to buy an N64?

    Don't you just love it on here? People astound me on a daily basis - there's really no other walk of life in which this happens.

    You're a piece of work, man. You'll jump on anyone who doesn't hold the same opinion you do, won't you? Talk about astounding.......you astound me on a daily basis with your constant hostility towards way too many members on here.

    Don't let it bother you: I've played countless hours of GE64, but see, because I accidentally misspoke and didn't say that "I haven't played it in years," and instead said "I haven't played it" accidentally, I get trashed. But, I corrected myself and everyone who was quick to pounce on me had no more words about it. Sure is something.
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    @Creasy47: At least it's not an issue now, thankfully, but nevertheless, it's members like that we can do without- the ones who go looking for their chance to criticize.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    00Beast wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I haven't played GE64 so I can't really comment.

    TWINE on the N64 is in my Top 3 favorite Bond games.

    So if I get this right you are a Bond fan, had an N64 but you never played GE64? What other reason was there to buy an N64?

    Don't you just love it on here? People astound me on a daily basis - there's really no other walk of life in which this happens.

    You're a piece of work, man. You'll jump on anyone who doesn't hold the same opinion you do, won't you? Talk about astounding.......you astound me on a daily basis with your constant hostility towards way too many members on here.

    I just point out lunacy where I see it and I simply couldn't understand how someone could be a Bond fan, own an N64 and never have played GE64.

    Turns out it was a typo but forgive me for not being able to mind read Creasy's mistakes. In actuality I should have realised it was a mistake as someone with an N64 to never have played GE is surely impossible.

    At least Creasy had a legitimate excuse - you are fortunate that your own particular brand of lunacy is so heavily protected I am not allowed to criticise it.
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    00Beast wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I haven't played GE64 so I can't really comment.

    TWINE on the N64 is in my Top 3 favorite Bond games.

    So if I get this right you are a Bond fan, had an N64 but you never played GE64? What other reason was there to buy an N64?

    Don't you just love it on here? People astound me on a daily basis - there's really no other walk of life in which this happens.

    You're a piece of work, man. You'll jump on anyone who doesn't hold the same opinion you do, won't you? Talk about astounding.......you astound me on a daily basis with your constant hostility towards way too many members on here.

    I just point out lunacy where I see it and I simply couldn't understand how someone could be a Bond fan, own an N64 and never have played GE64.

    Turns out it was a typo but forgive me for not being able to mind read Creasy's mistakes. In actuality I should have realised it was a mistake as someone with an N64 to never have played GE is surely impossible.

    At least Creasy had a legitimate excuse - you are fortunate that your own particular brand of lunacy is so heavily protected I am not allowed to criticise it.

    Shouldn't this comment be removed? Yeah, I think so. That was quite a petty cheap shot on your part. You know what this topic is for, so don't twist another discussion.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    00Beast wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    Creasy47 wrote:
    I haven't played GE64 so I can't really comment.

    TWINE on the N64 is in my Top 3 favorite Bond games.

    So if I get this right you are a Bond fan, had an N64 but you never played GE64? What other reason was there to buy an N64?

    Don't you just love it on here? People astound me on a daily basis - there's really no other walk of life in which this happens.

    You're a piece of work, man. You'll jump on anyone who doesn't hold the same opinion you do, won't you? Talk about astounding.......you astound me on a daily basis with your constant hostility towards way too many members on here.

    I just point out lunacy where I see it and I simply couldn't understand how someone could be a Bond fan, own an N64 and never have played GE64.

    Turns out it was a typo but forgive me for not being able to mind read Creasy's mistakes. In actuality I should have realised it was a mistake as someone with an N64 to never have played GE is surely impossible.

    At least Creasy had a legitimate excuse - you are fortunate that your own particular brand of lunacy is so heavily protected I am not allowed to criticise it.

    Shouldn't this comment be removed? Yeah, I think so. That was quite a petty cheap shot on your part. You know what this topic is for, so don't twist another discussion.

    You're the one who started attacking me above so don't start playing the victim. I never criticised Creasy particularly - just said I found it astounding that someone with an N64 had never played GE64.

    But delete my post, flag me, ban me - whatever. I'm pretty tired of talking to you today and as I don't have the benefit of living for eternity I have no desire to waste any more of my precious time on earth continually going round in ever more pointless circles with you.
  • edited December 2013 Posts: 2,402
    Enough, both of you. We've enough bullshit to deal with from the trolls, spambots, and assholes who dot the forums; I admire both of you and think you have both contributed in a significant way to MI6. It's upsetting to see two of the best members on here arguing like you two are.

    Back on topic. GE64 will always be the best Bond game, and then for its' cinematic merits I say EON comes second.
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    The Haitian docks level of the ps2 version of Quantum of Solace is one of the best levels in any modern bond game and should of been done in the 360/wii/ps3 version
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Risico007 wrote:
    The Haitian docks level of the ps2 version of Quantum of Solace is one of the best levels in any modern bond game and should of been done in the 360/wii/ps3 version

    I love that game so much, especially for its level design. The Siena shootout was probably my favorite part, but I love it all equally.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Risico007 wrote:
    The Haitian docks level of the ps2 version of Quantum of Solace is one of the best levels in any modern bond game and should of been done in the 360/wii/ps3 version
    I agree that was a pretty cool level. It took quite a few attempts to pass that one, as it really doesn't take much for the enemy to notice you behind the crates/drums.
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    I think Goldeneye Wii/Reloaded was shit. It was a piss poor Call Of Duty clone and a cash grab on the GE name.

    I don't see how people can bash Legends but then call this game great. They're exactly the same (both are shite), the only difference is that the GE remake butchers one film while Legends butchered six.

    GEWii/Reloaded was a better made game. They put time into GEWii and then with Reloaded took it a step further with better graphics. 007 Legends you could tell it was rushed and they didnt put much effort into it at all. The mechanics of Legends compared to Reloaded are highly noticable and was the main reason I couldnt stand to play Legends for more than a month. With Reloaded I felt in control of my gun and it was pretty smooth handling. On Legends its very jerky and twitchy and feels like half your kills are based on luck of how your gun happens to jerk. Both of them however suffered from extreme lag for online MP but at least GER had some good maps. 007 Legends maps are complete crap and theres only like 8 of them with 2 being almost the same. The story line was much better for GER than Legends as well.

  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    I haven't played GE64 so I can't really comment.

    TWINE on the N64 is in my Top 3 favorite Bond games.

    So if I get this right you are a Bond fan, had an N64 but you never played GE64? What other reason was there to buy an N64?

    Umm.. Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time and Majora's Mask? Starfox 64? Doom 64?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    I haven't played GE64 so I can't really comment.

    TWINE on the N64 is in my Top 3 favorite Bond games.

    So if I get this right you are a Bond fan, had an N64 but you never played GE64? What other reason was there to buy an N64?

    Umm.. Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina Of Time and Majora's Mask? Starfox 64? Doom 64?

    Oh, for...it was a mistake, I really didn't mean to say it. GE64 was one of the first games I got on the N64 and I put in hundreds of countless hours into it. We needn't continue to bring it up.
  • 005005
    edited January 2014 Posts: 17
    I think Goldeneye 64 comes in first with Everything or Nothing in second, Agent Under Fire in third, Nightfire in Fourth and Bloodstone in Fifth.
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    I think Nightfire is by far the best Bond game.

    I felt more like Bond in the castle level than in all the Activision Bond games combined. You have so much freedom, there are so many different ways to complete the level, and so many little touches that really make you feel like Bond.

    I actually quite like the story too. The villains plan is quite clever, it's a space based Bond story done right (up until the final level where you're actually in space, I wouldn't have minded if it was just disarming the rockets but really, laser guns?).

    If Pierce Brosnan had given his voice then it would've been a perfect game. If you play video games and own a ps2/gamecube/xbox, but haven't played Nightfire, then go and buy it right now (it's probably on ebay or amazon for next to nothing). I promise you won't regret it.

    If owning an N64, being a Bond fan and not playing Goldeneye is mental, then owning a ps2 (or xbox, or gamecube), being a Bond fan and not playing Nightfire (or Everything or Nothing while I'm at it), is just as insane.
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    Replaying everything or nothing makes me annoyed at how the Craig games really got shafted Craig is by far my favorite bond and his games have been all ok at best


    I will say this EA's Casino Royale would of either been the best bond game brutal and gadget free or it would of been like From Russia With Love with way too many gadgets.
  • 005005
    edited January 2014 Posts: 17
    I feel Everything or Nothing did everything Bond right, I never understood why people think Nightfire is the best but I know it disappointed me greatly, it felt like it focused more on graphics than longevity and the voice actor for Bond was terrible, he sounded like he had a cold.

    The only thing I truely liked about Nightfire was the Multiplayer because of the wide range of gametypes and weapons, but even then there wasn't many maps available.

    About the new Bond games yes they were simplified, the lack of gadgets and 007 bonus moves disappointed me greatly.

    The four latest Bond games were more CoD-like, also in Bloodstone they simplified further in the movement department, you couldn't crouch while walking like in EoN.
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    Nightfire < FRWL.

    And Bloodstone was the only good Activision Bond Game.
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    005 wrote:
    also in Bloodstone they simplified further in the movement department, you couldn't crouch while walking like in EoN.

    Craig Bond doesn't crouch while walking. He's too macho for that. Ok, he crouches in the fps games. But you don't actually see him crouching. He's too cool to let you catch him doing that in third person perspective :p


    And my controversial opinion : Goldeneye 64 is (maybe)the most overrated game on any platform. Yes, I've played it, and I still don't what all the fuss was about. Okay, first fps Bond game. But that's it. It also took many liberties with the source material.

    That's, of course, my humble opinion.

  • I somewhat agree, when The World is Not Enough came out on N64, I remember enjoying it a whole lot more than Goldeneye, and at the time all my friends thought so too.
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    Everything or nothing is way over the top cheese fest that makes die another day look tame... There i had to say it
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    Risico007 wrote:
    Everything or nothing is way over the top cheese fest that makes die another day look tame... There i had to say it

    It's a video game, it's allowed to take liberties in exchange for entertainment.
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    I agree. What works in a videogame might not work in a movie . EON, great game, but would be way over the top as a movie.
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    yeah but even as a game Brosnan's mocap looked bored lol
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    Risico007 wrote:
    yeah but even as a game Brosnan's mocap looked bored lol

    That's a fair point which I'll agree with you on. He does sound like he's going through the motions. At least Dench, Cleese and Dafoe give it some welly.
  • Everything Or Nothing makes me sad that Cleese didn't do more films as Q. He's the only voice actor in the game who really sounds enthusiastic and puts the effort in, and I thought he was great in the part (one of DAD's good points).

    There's a little extra thing you can watch through the games menu and they do a few interviews and Cleese says something like "it's ok not to have a movie this year, because the game is there". That sums up what I think the games were and what they should be. Not shitty tie ins, playable Bond films to bridge the gap between the movies.
    Risico007 wrote:
    Everything or nothing is way over the top cheese fest that makes die another day look tame... There i had to say it

    Every single Bond game is OTT.
    Risico007 wrote:
    yeah but even as a game Brosnan's mocap looked bored lol

    I don't think Bond has ever really been played well in a game. Brosnan and Craig weren't as good as they were in the films, Connery was too old for it (and sounded like he didn't care) and none of the voice doubles have been good.

    I think for the next Bond game they should make their own Bond. Find a voice actor who's actually enthusiastic about it, that takes it seriously.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I think for the next Bond game they should make their own Bond. Find a voice actor who's actually enthusiastic about it, that takes it seriously.


    Bring this Bond Back! :D
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    There's a little extra thing you can watch through the games menu and they do a few interviews and Cleese says something like "it's ok not to have a movie this year, because the game is there". That sums up what I think the games were and what they should be. Not shitty tie ins, playable Bond films to bridge the gap between the movies.


    agreed which is why Activision failing to deliver a new game each year annoyed me then when they left and nothing is going on with the Bond game franchise its making me even more annoyed.
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