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Which bit undermines an otherwise good film...
Just watched OHMSS. Great stuff. Although one thing rankles with me. Bond is already deeply involved with Tracy before the Piz Gloria scenes. The fact he shags 2 maybe three girls up there doesn't really fit with their story. Feels like the writers felt obliged to add a seduced body count to the film unnecessarily.
Any more.
Any more.
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Now to the task at hand. There's a section of MR that, to me, severely degrades what could have been an upper echelon Bond film. The section begins with Bond bowling Goodhead out, pretty as you please, as a CIA agent in her Venice hotel room, and concludes with bond daffily riding across a field wearing a Clint Eastwood poncho and with the Magnificent Seven theme droning in the background. Now granted, MR was never intended to be a serious Bond film, but during the section in question, the silliness becomes inane, almost farcical to an extent not reached until DAD came puking onto the scene. If the people in charge had kept MR grounded just a bit more during this section, I think it would have been a much better film.
This is probably an obvious choice for a lot of people but if they'd managed to trim the underwater battle scene in TB by about five or ten minutes, it would greatly raise the film in my estimations.
One of my favorite fights in the whole series. People forget a Bond film is supposed to have some occasional lightness of touch.
Well said. As much as I love a "serious" Bond it was so refreshing to see Craig's Bond have a little old school Roger Moore fun.
As far as OHMSS goes, Bond's womanizing doesn't bother me from a moral standpoint. It's the fact that all of his shenanigans end up with him getting captured. It just didn't seem like the wisest way to go about your business while undercover.
Yeah things get wrapped up a little too quickly and conveniently in LTK. I would've preferred Bond, beaten and bloodied, walking off into the sunset alone, just as he's been the whole movie. And like the above stated, with his future uncertain. And then Bond 17 would focus on Bond getting back into the Secret Service.
As the end of just LTK, it would've been better in the desert.
What? That entire scene was fantastic!!!
Agreed, I loved the look Craig gave when he saw that big Komodo Dragon come out in to the pit. LOL
I loved the entire scene on the floating casino. First of all the scenery was amazing. The give and take between Eve and Bond was great. The conversation between Bond and Severine was wonderful. I thought the fight was short but sweet.
Those were CGI ? Looked real to me. :-/
"I love James so much" in LTK is a double take moment.
I agree on the "Komodo dragons". I thought it was the worst scene in the film. The Komodo dragons were awful, the CGI only being a little bit better than the CGI we got in Die Another Day.
The Komodo dragon fight I thought was too jarring. One minute we're hearing about Severine's tragic backstory, the next we have Daniel Craig acting like a poor mans Roger Moore (two one liners in a row? Really?). Didn't fit in well with the film I thought.
Plus the fight itself was poor imo. No sense of danger, no brutality, and some poor CGI. Easily the worst bit of the film for me.
this , this and this . Spot on mate.
It never bothered me. Bond never struck me as monogamous and him having a fling on the side, especially to progress in his mission, changes nothing with his relationship with Tracy. Had she lived, I don't think he would have been faithful. One may find it immoral, but it is very much in character. It was also in the novel, although better explained.
You know how much more expensive that scene would be with real Komodo dragons? Besides, it's not like they can be tamed or trained. Nowadays, the film industry is more sensitive to security on set, not to mention animal rights.
We can complain about the scene itself, but the CGIs were inevitable. I strongly dislike CGIs and think they are overused, but sometimes they are sadly inevitable. If they were to recreate the fight against the squid from DN, they would not use a real squid either. (Now on a side note, I would have LOVED this scene in the 1962 film, with FX made by Ray Harryhausen. Not sure if it would have diminish the overall quality of the movie though.)
However, what bothers me is the classic arrangement of The James Bond Theme played at Piz Gloria assault. Not only John Barry's "Battle At Piz Gloria" is way better, but that arrangement of the James Bond theme makes the movie look so much dated. Couldn't Peter Hunt simply use "This never happened to the other fellow"'s arrengement of JB theme or ask John Barry to write a new one?
Would you mind saying what 30 seconds you are talking about? You don't mean the parachuting scene,do you?
Yes, but the way Bond is Raising his fists is bordering on parody. In my opinion this scene is worse than the complete fighting legacy of Moore.
Agreed. I have no problem with the scene itself or the CGI but is too inconsistent with the tone of SF.
I didn't see it like this. At the time it happens, Bond is still recovering from months of drinking abuse and is still in poor physical condition. He is not at his peak and thus the fight had to look clumsy. I love the escalation in SF: when he trains in the new MI6 Bond is at his worst, then he fails to take Patrice alive, then he does slightly better with the Triads, then overpowers Silva's men, to finally be back at the top of his game in the final confrontation at Skyfall.
Felix was a bit too upbeat at the end, yes. The pool scene was a bit cheesy, but this was an 80s film, so I give it a pass.