Live And Let Die vs Tomorrow Never Dies - By the Elements

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  • edited July 2014 Posts: 6,396
    The problem with heroin flavoured bananas is they're a little bit moreish.
  • edited August 2014 Posts: 1,068
    :)) righto - no point making a list whilst mooching in halfway through things! I missed the earlier thread started by @Perilagu_Khan! List duly updated after some interesting catch up reading!

    SF v CR = CR
    TLD v LTK = TLD
    DN v TB = TB
    TND v TWINE = TND
    DAF v MR = DAF
    OHMSS v FRWL. =. OHMSS
    GF v GE = GF
    LALD v OP = LALD
    YOLT v QOS = YOLT
    AVTAK v MWTGG = AVTAK
    TSWLM v FYEO = TSWLM


    FRWL v GF = FRWL
    DAF v QOS = DAF
    YOLT v TND = YOLT
    DN v SF = SF
    TSWLM v GE = GE
    TB v TLD = TLD
    OHMSS v CR = OHMSS
    MR v DAD = MR
    FYEO v LTK = FYEO
    TMWTGG v TWINE = TWINE
    YOLT v OP = YOLT
    TND v QOS = TND
    GF v TLD = GF
    LALD v TB = TB
    TSWLM v SF = TSWLM
    AVTAK v DAF = ?
  • Samuel001 wrote: »
    @andmcit, I've just merged the two separate 'By the Elements' threads together, so by all means go right back to the start now to see what has been done and who the winners were. I'm sure at some point, I compiled some sort of list, no doubt you'll find it if it's there.

    I was quite confused when I logged on and saw that the thread had 200 new posts. Certainly, that would be a lot growth overnight.

    Thanks to both you and @andmcit for the updated lists.
  • PTS: TSWLM
    Title Track: TSWLM
    Title Credits: SF
    Main Villain: SF
    Main Bond Girl: SF
    Overall Plot: SF
    Dialogue: TSWLM
    Score: TSWLM
    Settings: TSWLM
    Action: TSWLM
    Humor: TSWLM
    Cinematography: SF
    Benign Bizarre: SF
    Suspense: SF
    Minor Characters: SF
    Glamour: TSWLM
    Ally: SF

    9-8 Skyfall

    Just barely, I originally had it as a tie in the Bond girl category, but in the end gave it to Skyfall.
  • Any final entries before we move on to the next round?
  • Posts: 2,402
    Too hard for me to decide several of the categories. Despite these being two of my absolute favourites in the series, I must pass on this round.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    PTS: TSWLM
    Title Track: SF
    Title Credits: SF
    Main Villain: SF
    Main Bond Girl: SF
    Overall Plot: SF
    Dialogue: SF
    Score: SF
    Settings: TSWLM
    Action: TSWLM
    Humor: TSWLM
    Cinematography: SF
    Benign Bizarre: SF
    Suspense: SF
    Minor Characters: SF
    Glamour: TSWLM
    Ally: SF

    12-5 to Skyfall
  • Posts: 3,336
    PTS: TSWLM
    Title Track: TSWLM
    Title Credits: SF
    Main Villain: SF
    Main Bond Girl: SF
    Overall Plot: SF
    Dialogue: TSWLM
    Score: SF
    Settings: TSWLM
    Action: TSWLM
    Humor: TSWLM
    Cinematography: SF
    Benign Bizarre: TSWLM
    Suspense: SF
    Minor Characters: SF
    Glamour: TSWLM
    Ally: SF

    9-8 to Skyfall
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Next round please.
  • edited August 2014 Posts: 3,236
    Next round please.

    Your wish is my command.

    Despite an early lead and a late rally, Skyfall falls to The Spy Who Loved Me by a margin of 209-224-8. For our next match, we'll cover the one movie that has been unfortunately left out thus far, as A View to a Kill takes on Diamonds are Forever!

    PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: DAF
    Title Credits: DAF
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: DAF (Tiffany is quite solid for the first act and some of the second)
    Overall Plot: DAF (at least it's not a GF ripoff)
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: DAF
    Settings: DAF
    Action: AVTAK (mostly for Zorin gunning down his workers)
    Humor: DAF
    Cinematography: DAF
    Benign Bizarre: DAF
    Suspense: Tie (I...guess?)
    Minor Characters: DAF (sorry, Avengers meets Bond and Ivan Drago, Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd take this)
    Glamour: DAF
    Ally: AVTAK

    A 13-4 drubbing in favor of Diamonds are Forever. Your turn!

    EDIT: Mods, I believe I've lost the ability to edit the thread title, since it technically starts with @Perilagu_Khan now. Any help?
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489

    PTS: DAF
    Title Track: DAF
    Title Credits: DAF
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: DAF
    Overall Plot: DAF
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: DAF
    Settings: DAF
    Action: DAF
    Humor: DAF
    Cinematography: DAF
    Benign Bizarre: DAF
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: DAF
    Glamour: DAF
    Ally: Tie

    DAF wins by 14-2 and one pink tie.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited August 2014 Posts: 40,976
    PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: AVTAK
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: DAF
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: DAF
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: AVTAK
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: DAF
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: AVTAK
    Glamour: DAF
    Ally: AVTAK

    AVTAK wins, 12-5.

    Odd, because AVTAK is one of my favorites and DAF doesn't rank anywhere near it.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: AVTAK
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: DAF
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: DAF
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: AVTAK
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: AVTAK
    Glamour: DAF
    Ally: AVTAK

    13-4 to A View to a Kill
  • Posts: 6,396
    PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: DAF
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: Tie - Both are utter crap
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: AVTAK
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: AVTAK
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: AVTAK
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: AVTAK
    Glamour: AVTAK
    Ally: AVTAK

    AVTAK - 15-1 with 1 tie.
  • PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: DAF
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: DAF
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: AVTAK
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: DAF
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: DAF
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: AVTAK
    Glamour: AVTAK
    Ally: AVTAK
  • PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: DAF
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: DAF
    Overall Plot: DAF
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: DAF
    Action: DAF
    Humor: DAF
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: AVTAK
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: AVTAK
    Glamour: DAF
    Ally: AVTAK

    A View to a Kill 9-8 very close
  • Posts: 12,473
    PTS: DAF (I'm not a fan of either, but AVTAK's is my least favorite in the series)
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: DAF
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: DAF
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: DAF
    Settings: DAF
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: DAF
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: DAF
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: DAF
    Glamour: DAF
    Ally: AVTAK

    DAF 10, AVTAK 7

    Both two of my least favorite Bond films; DAF at #20, AVTAK in dead last at #23. They each have a few redeeming qualities (Like Wint and Kidd in DAF and Zorin in AVTAK), but just aren't my cup of tea as Bond films.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    edited August 2014 Posts: 2,629
    DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER vs A VIEW TO A KILL

    PTS: Neither (They both stink on ice on different levels)
    Title Track: AVTAK (Can't argue with a Bond theme that hit #1)
    Title Credits: AVTAK
    Main Villain: AVTAK (Goldfinger II > Blofeld III)
    Main Bond Girl: Neither (Both equally annoying)
    Overall Plot: DAF (At least the DAF plot was original)
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: AVTAK (San Francisco/Paris over Vegas/Amsterdam. Though none of them are bad places to visit)
    Action: AVTAK (There's just something about fighting over an axe on top of a major bridge with a blimp tied off)
    Humor: DAF (Duh)
    Cinematography: DAF
    Benign Bizarre: DAF
    Suspense: AVTAK (I had my doubts that May Day wouldn't jump off the cart, but by golly, she blew herself up)
    Minor Characters: DAF
    Glamour: AVTAK (Paris and Zorin's estate)
    Ally: AVTAK (Sir Godfrey was better than most Felix's. Such as the Felix in DAF.)

    Roger's 2nd worst trumps Connery's worst by a 9-6-2 tally.
  • Posts: 1,068
    PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: AVTAK - hate that jerky zipper though
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: AVTAK
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: DAF
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: DAF
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: DAF
    Glamour: AVTAK
    Ally: AVTAK

    Hey another AVTAK 13 > 4 DAF
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: DAF
    Title Credits: DAF
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: DAF
    Overall Plot: DAF
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: DAF
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: DAF
    Humor: DAF
    Cinematography: DAF
    Benign Bizarre: DAF
    Suspense: DAF
    Minor Characters: DAF
    Glamour: DAF
    Ally: AVTAK
  • Posts: 6,396
    The thread title needs changing.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Thanks for keeping us on our toes @WillyGalore.
  • Posts: 6,396
    I live for it @Samuel001 ;-)
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,800
    PTS: DAF
    Title Track: DAF
    Title Credits: DAF
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: DAF
    Overall Plot: DAF
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: DAF
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: DAF
    Humor: DAF
    Cinematography: DAF
    Benign Bizarre: DAF
    Suspense: DAF
    Minor Characters: DAF
    Glamour: DAF
    Ally: AVTAK

    14 to 3 for DAF
  • Thank you very much @Samuel001 and @WillyGalore for the help.
  • Posts: 1,596
    PTS: A View to a Kill
    Title Track: Diamonds Are Forever
    Title Credits: A View to a Kill
    Main Villain: A View to a Kill (ha!)
    Main Bond Girl: Diamonds Are Forever
    Overall Plot: Diamonds Are Forever
    Dialogue: Diamonds Are Forever
    Score: A View to a Kill
    Settings: A View to a Kill
    Action: A View to a Kill (close)
    Humor: Diamonds Are Forever (close)
    Cinematography: A View to a Kill
    Benign Bizarre: A View to a Kill
    Suspense: A View to a Kill
    Minor Characters: A View to a Kill
    Glamour: Diamonds Are Forever
    Ally: A View to a Kill

    11-6 AVTAK
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 5,431
    PTS: Diamonds are Forever..."Making mud pies 007? He would have been me if you'd given the poor fellow a chance." Love it!
    Title Track: Diamonds Are Forever Gotta go with Dame Bassey!
    Title Credits: A View to a Kill Those neon streamers had me quite titillated as a teenager!
    Main Villain: A View to a Kill Gotta love Walken!
    Main Bond Girl: Diamonds Are Forever "You keep tooting that horn Charlie..."
    Overall Plot: Diamonds Are Forever
    Dialogue: Diamonds Are Forever witty and very well done IMHO
    Score: Diamonds are Forever
    Settings: A View to a Kill San Fran? One of the great American cities
    Action: A View to a Kill If only that car didn't magically switch sides!
    Humor: Diamonds Are Forever "I got a brother" "Oh provided the collars and cuffs match"
    Cinematography: A View to a Kill
    Benign Bizarre: A View to a Kill
    Suspense: A View to a Kill
    Minor Characters: Diamonds are Forever Morton Slumber, Shady Tree, Kidd and Wint? Love them all!
    Glamour: Diamonds Are Forever
    Ally: A View to a Kill

    DAF 9 AVTAK 8 Wow closer then I would have thought.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: AVTAK
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: AVTAK (Both are dire, but at least Stacy remains the same throughout. Tiffany starts off as being tough and resourceful. But ends up dumb and annoying)
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: DAF
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: DAF
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: DAF
    Glamour: AVTAK
    Ally: AVTAK

    AVTAK - 13
    DAF - 4

    AVTAK wins.

  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    PTS: AVTAK
    Title Track: AVTAK
    Title Credits: AVTAK
    Main Villain: AVTAK
    Main Bond Girl: AVTAK
    Overall Plot: AVTAK
    Dialogue: DAF
    Score: AVTAK
    Settings: AVTAK
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: DAF
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: DAF
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: DAF
    Glamour: AVTAK
    Ally: AVTAK

    AVTAK - 13
    DAF - 4
  • MooseWithFleasMooseWithFleas Philadelphia
    Posts: 3,369
    PTS: AVTAK (Although both are two of the weakest in the series)
    Title Track: AVTAK (Love Bassey, but Duran Duran's track is just electric here)
    Title Credits: AVTAK (Dance into the fire!)
    Main Villain: AVTAK (I enjoy Charles Gray, but his Blofeld is a mess)
    Main Bond Girl: DAF (St. John is good in the first half before she turns into a ditzy mess. Roberts is one of the weakest in the series)
    Overall Plot: AVTAK (Moves along at a pretty solid pace. Both are a little weak)
    Dialogue: AVTAK (Macnee and Moore have great lines. Gotta love Saint John Smythe. Walken has great lines)
    Score: AVTAK (Golden Gate Bridge fight scene and the slow romantic version of Duran Duran's theme is great)
    Settings: Tie (Both have some decent locales with none noticeably better. I think they could have portrayed Vegas and San Fran better.
    Action: AVTAK
    Humor: AVTAK
    Cinematography: AVTAK
    Benign Bizarre: AVTAK
    Suspense: AVTAK
    Minor Characters: AVTAK
    Glamour: AVTAK
    Ally: AVTAK

    AVTAK - 15
    DAF - 1
    Tie - 1

    I did not expect such a smackdown here. I like AVTAK better than DAF, but not leaps and bounds. DAF is at the bottom of my list, while AVTAK is in the 15-18ish range. AVTAK narrowly edges DAF in most of these categories though.
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