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  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
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    Interesting list. I like your top 5.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I'm surprised to see DN so low and GE so high.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    I'm surprised to see DN so low and GE so high.

    Why? It shouldn't come as a surprise that Goldeneye is a very popular Bond film...
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    edited April 2015 Posts: 1,596
    And DN I would not classify as being "so low."
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I would argue that the first six films belong to a golden era of sorts, with DAF being the first mistep in the series. It was a then a dark time for bond series during campy parody of the seventies. The series resurfaced from awful in the eighties, pummeted back in the late ninties, resulting in a reluctant reboot. Fingers crossed for Daniel Craig. We shall see.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    edited April 2015 Posts: 1,596
    Upon my last viewing I considered DAF and YOLT to be of equal quality. It may change. But I see what you're saying. My true golden era would be from 1962-1965. "True" in that those might be the best four films of the entire franchise.
  • ChampionAlonsoChampionAlonso
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    My ranking right now:
    **** 1/2
    1.- CR
    2.- FRWL
    ****
    3.- TLDL
    *** 1/2
    4.- OHMSS
    5.- GF
    6.- SF
    7.- DN
    8.- TSWLM
    9.- GE
    10.- FYEO
    11.- LTK
    12.- QoS
    13.- TWINE
    ***
    14.- MR
    15.- AVTAK
    16.- TMWTGG
    17.- TND
    18.- YOLT
    19- DAF
    20.- OP
    21.- DAD
    ** 1/2
    22.- LALD
    23.- TB (don´t kill me, pelase, but I find it sooo boooring)
  • TolkienTolkien
    edited April 2015 Posts: 26
    I haven't seen most of the Bond films in ages, but off of my memory, this is my tier-based ranking, which is chronologically listed. I'll probably post a new, more specific ranking once I finish marathoning 'em all again.

    Masterpiece Tier
    From Russia With Love
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Casino Royale
    Skyfall

    Great Tier
    Dr. No
    Thunderball
    The Living Daylights
    Goldeneye

    Good Tier
    Goldfinger
    Live and Let Die
    The Spy Who Loved Me
    License to Kill
    Tomorrow Never Dies

    Mediocre Tier
    You Only Live Twice
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    For Your Eyes Only
    Quantum of Solace

    Bad Tier
    Diamonds are Forever
    Octopussy
    A View to a Kill
    The World Is Not Enough

    Sinful Tier
    Moonraker
    Die Another Day
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I would argue that the first six films belong to a golden era of sorts, with DAF being the first mistep in the series. It was a then a dark time for bond series during campy parody of the seventies. The series resurfaced from awful in the eighties, pummeted back in the late ninties, resulting in a reluctant reboot. Fingers crossed for Daniel Craig. We shall see.

    I can agree with all of these points, although I believe LALD too be a good Bond film and one of Moore's best performances.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I'm surprised to see DN so low and GE so high.

    Why? It shouldn't come as a surprise that Goldeneye is a very popular Bond film...

    It still surprises me.....average at best with an awful score. I count DN ranked below any top 5 as (too) low.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    I'm surprised to see DN so low and GE so high.

    Why? It shouldn't come as a surprise that Goldeneye is a very popular Bond film...

    It still surprises me.....average at best with an awful score. I count DN ranked below any top 5 as (too) low.

    Goldeneye is in my top ten (possibly top five). I place DN comfortably in my bottom 5. Opinions, ey?
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Yeah visa versa. Still all Bond films are good, it's just some are outstanding to some and not to others. FRWL, DN, TB, & CR are near perfect for me. I will admit that GE & the first hour of TND are Brozza's best though.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I would argue that the first six films belong to a golden era of sorts, with DAF being the first mistep in the series. It was a then a dark time for bond series during campy parody of the seventies. The series resurfaced from awful in the eighties, pummeted back in the late ninties, resulting in a reluctant reboot. Fingers crossed for Daniel Craig. We shall see.

    The difference in opinion on some of the films is what I like best about these types of boards. I love DAF because it so bad it is actually a lot of fun. It works for me. On the other hand, MR and FYEO don't work for me. I have had discussions with fans who LOVE MR and FYEO for the same reasons I like DAF.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    See for me DAF & MR are too comic. However, DAF still has Sean so that's a massive plus. However, I like FYEO as it's Moore's best performance (alongside LALD)....the Loque death scene is his finest hour.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    TripAces wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I would argue that the first six films belong to a golden era of sorts, with DAF being the first mistep in the series. It was a then a dark time for bond series during campy parody of the seventies. The series resurfaced from awful in the eighties, pummeted back in the late ninties, resulting in a reluctant reboot. Fingers crossed for Daniel Craig. We shall see.

    The difference in opinion on some of the films is what I like best about these types of boards. I love DAF because it so bad it is actually a lot of fun. It works for me. On the other hand, MR and FYEO don't work for me. I have had discussions with fans who LOVE MR and FYEO for the same reasons I like DAF.

    When you say you like DAF but you know it's bad, what exactly is it that you like about it? Not trying to be mean, just would like to know.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    See for me DAF & MR are too comic. However, DAF still has Sean so that's a massive plus. However, I like FYEO as it's Moore's best performance (alongside LALD)....the Loque death scene is his finest hour.

    I like DAF because it is ridiculous from the outset and then piles on more and more. MR and FYEO feature some really good, intense scenes (as you mention with Loque) but they are juxtaposed with corniness. That is my turnoff. But to each their own.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I agree with that with regards to MR......but generally FYEO has a more serious tone (for the era).
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I would argue that the first six films belong to a golden era of sorts, with DAF being the first mistep in the series. It was a then a dark time for bond series during campy parody of the seventies. The series resurfaced from awful in the eighties, pummeted back in the late ninties, resulting in a reluctant reboot. Fingers crossed for Daniel Craig. We shall see.

    The difference in opinion on some of the films is what I like best about these types of boards. I love DAF because it so bad it is actually a lot of fun. It works for me. On the other hand, MR and FYEO don't work for me. I have had discussions with fans who LOVE MR and FYEO for the same reasons I like DAF.

    When you say you like DAF but you know it's bad, what exactly is it that you like about it? Not trying to be mean, just would like to know.

    Sir Sean Connery.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I would argue that the first six films belong to a golden era of sorts, with DAF being the first mistep in the series. It was a then a dark time for bond series during campy parody of the seventies. The series resurfaced from awful in the eighties, pummeted back in the late ninties, resulting in a reluctant reboot. Fingers crossed for Daniel Craig. We shall see.

    The difference in opinion on some of the films is what I like best about these types of boards. I love DAF because it so bad it is actually a lot of fun. It works for me. On the other hand, MR and FYEO don't work for me. I have had discussions with fans who LOVE MR and FYEO for the same reasons I like DAF.

    When you say you like DAF but you know it's bad, what exactly is it that you like about it? Not trying to be mean, just would like to know.

    I think DAF is intended to be pure camp, with no pretensions of being taken seriously. It is so over the top bad that it is actually good. I mean: homosexual henchmen, diamonds hidden in a dead man's intestines, a gorilla running loose in a casino, a slot machine playing elephant, Bambi and Thumper, Bond in a pink tie, Plenty O'Toole, a moon buggy chase. I am dying laughing just typing this. All of this stuff is so stupid that for me it is pure escapist entertainment.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    TripAces wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    TripAces wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I would argue that the first six films belong to a golden era of sorts, with DAF being the first mistep in the series. It was a then a dark time for bond series during campy parody of the seventies. The series resurfaced from awful in the eighties, pummeted back in the late ninties, resulting in a reluctant reboot. Fingers crossed for Daniel Craig. We shall see.

    The difference in opinion on some of the films is what I like best about these types of boards. I love DAF because it so bad it is actually a lot of fun. It works for me. On the other hand, MR and FYEO don't work for me. I have had discussions with fans who LOVE MR and FYEO for the same reasons I like DAF.

    When you say you like DAF but you know it's bad, what exactly is it that you like about it? Not trying to be mean, just would like to know.

    I think DAF is intended to be pure camp, with no pretensions of being taken seriously. It is so over the top bad that it is actually good. I mean: homosexual henchmen, diamonds hidden in a dead man's intestines, a gorilla running loose in a casino, a slot machine playing elephant, Bambi and Thumper, Bond in a pink tie, Plenty O'Toole, a moon buggy chase. I am dying laughing just typing this. All of this stuff is so stupid that for me it is pure escapist entertainment.

    I bet bond felt quite the fool fishing around inside that guy's rectum to recover the diamonds, only to have them turn out to be fakes.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    I bet bond felt quite the fool fishing around inside that guy's rectum to recover the diamonds, only to have them turn out to be fakes.
    That was a mental picture I had almost succeeded in expunging forever, and now look what you've done!
    [-(
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    I simply don't understand how Diamonds Are Forever is intended to be camp from the offset, but not Moonraker?
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    I simply don't understand how Diamonds Are Forever is intended to be camp from the offset, but not Moonraker?

    Indeed, the PTS in MR is ridiculous. But then the entire first act, at Drax's estate, is played pretty straight, culminating in what I think is one of the best photographed, most sadistic scenes in the series: Corinne getting tracked down by the dobermans...and Barry's score in that scene is nothing short of awesome. And you're thinking: Oh, this is going to get good. And it doesn't. It just goes bad.

  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited April 2015 Posts: 5,080
    TripAces wrote: »
    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    I simply don't understand how Diamonds Are Forever is intended to be camp from the offset, but not Moonraker?

    Indeed, the PTS in MR is ridiculous. But then the entire first act, at Drax's estate, is played pretty straight, culminating in what I think is one of the best photographed, most sadistic scenes in the series: Corinne getting tracked down by the dobermans...and Barry's score in that scene is nothing short of awesome. And you're thinking: Oh, this is going to get good. And it doesn't. It just goes bad.

    I don't think the first act of Moonraker is totally jarring with the rest of the film. Moonraker never really takes itself seriously (Moore always has that slight smirk on his face, "A woman?!", "I never learnt to read", Drax and his rather OTT shadiness, Chang)- of course, Corinne's death scene is pretty juxtaposed with the surrounding film, but I think that is highly effective. There isn't much going on in the scenes prior to her death, and for this rather dark scene to come out of nowhere is a pretty bold move. Then again, Diamonds Are Forever has the rather brutal elevator fight in the first act, too.

  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    edited April 2015 Posts: 17,835
    1962 - 1969 The Flemingly Flavourful years.
    Classic Bond at its peak.
    1971 - 1985 The "I Dream Of Jeannie" era.
    Because all along I was wishing for it to be just a bit less silly. :))
    1987 - 1989 A Fine Mix.
    A serious & literary Bond swimming in a cinematic backdrop.
    1995 - 2002 The Steeley Bond.
    A time when sheer fun & excitement was the name of the game.
    2006 - ? Born (Bourne) Again OO7.
    Seriousness Fleming himself could never have envisioned the cinematic version of his character thriving in.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I hate these comparisons between the Bourne films and the Craig era.
    Not a comparison; influenced by. In much the way Steele influenced Bond to go lighter when Broz was hired.

  • TolkienTolkien
    Posts: 26
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I hear it, but beyond the decrease in humor, I really don't see it (again with Bourne).

    I can certainly see the Bourne influences in Quantum of Solace, but that's pretty much it.

  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
    edited April 2015 Posts: 1,596
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I hear it, but beyond the decrease in humor, I really don't see it (again with Bourne).

    You'll be able to find videos floating around that show how shots/scenes/sequences were directly ripped from the Bourne series (primarily Supermacy and Ultimatum) in QOS. To me, although I find it vastly superior to anything in the Bourne franchise, CR's grittier tone and frenetic action scenes grounded in semi-realism were also a response to the success of the Bourne movies. They were then doubled down in QOS. So my argument would be that you can separate them all you want, but it's hard to deny the existence of influence on the filmmakers.

    SF, by and large, is free of much of the Bourne influence, which I love. Mendes shoots the action traditionally as opposed to the handheld way of shooting popularized by Greengrass, and SF's tone is dark, but it is far less gritty (I feel there is a difference). There's an added bizarreness to SF that I think is a staple in the Bond series as well. Alternately, Nolan's TDK trilogy had a bit of influence on SF, I felt.

    I can understand separating the two franchises, because I do as well. But there was definite influence. Hell, I'm sure you can find an interview somewhere (I haven't checked on this one, unfortunately) where a producer or director just comes out and says it, concerning taking influence.

    Sorry, @Birdleson, that was a bit long winded.
  • ThighsOfXeniaThighsOfXenia
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    The Nolan rip-offs in SF were much more obvious to me. It bothered me quite a bit for the first year or so. Now I can watch the film without that eating away at my enjoyment.

    I was too busy basking in its glory on my first watch to notice, but after that I'm with you. It doesn't put me off anymore, although I still have a few issues with the film as a whole.
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
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    1-OHMSS
    2-FRWL
    3-CR
    4-GF
    5-TB
    6-SF
    7-DN
    8-LALD
    9-TLD
    10-LTK

    These are the ones I'll watch over and over. The rest I don't care how they are ranked.
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